How can nintendo expect to keep these sales up....

When the wii has hardly any games worth a damn :lol:. seriously, the 3rd party support for wii is terrible, but instead of addressing this issue with great first party, Nintendo jsut seems to be idle to it. I just can't see this system maintaning its sales with only mario to sell it, it seem to be killing any game ported to it, or its 1st party flops instead, eg metroid 8.5 prime.

A cow talking about no games and flops...

I have seen everything.

Yes, yes i asm a cow. And the thing is, sony still has many of is valued 'big games' to be released, unlike the 'ninty trinity of zelda, mario and metroid. 2 of 3 flopped aswell :lol:

however, im still comfortable in hyping metal gear, gran turismo, final fantasy and killzone :D

1. This coming from a cow
2. Theres many games on the Wii -- problem is Bad ones outweigh the good ones, confusing casuals/non-gamers
3. Many Wii owners have a ton of titles, including myself (15).
Haziqonfire

VC games don't count 8)

Yes, yes i asm a cow. And the thing is, sony still has many of is valued 'big games' to be released, unlike the 'ninty trinity of zelda, mario and metroid. 2 of 3 flopped aswell :lol:

however, im still comfortable in hyping metal gear, gran turismo, final fantasy and killzone :D

Rhys555

[QUOTE="Rhys555"]

Yes, yes i asm a cow. And the thing is, sony still has many of is valued 'big games' to be released, unlike the 'ninty trinity of zelda, mario and metroid. 2 of 3 flopped aswell :lol:

however, im still comfortable in hyping metal gear, gran turismo, final fantasy and killzone :D

Haziqonfire

Your comparing a near release, factor five dragon riding gamne to metroid prime, i highly valued and cherished BNintendo series which flopped below it AAA-AAAA hype to 8.5? :lol:

Yes, yes i asm a cow. And the thing is, sony still has many of is valued 'big games' to be released, unlike the 'ninty trinity of zelda, mario and metroid. 2 of 3 flopped aswell :lol:

however, im still comfortable in hyping metal gear, gran turismo, final fantasy and killzone :D

Rhys555

You seem to be under the impression that because a game flops in System Wars it is either a bad game or doesn't sell well.

Dude, they sold over 13 million units off of only Zelda, Mario Party and Wii Sports.

The Wii is getting more 3rd-party support (which is everyone's main complaint), they now have Mario Galaxy, they'll easily get a Mario Party 9 and will probably get Wii Sports 2 in 2008. Not to mention Super Smash Brothers Brawl. The Wii is picking up steam in both sales and software thats gonna be released.

Dude, they sold over 13 million units off of only Zelda, Mario Party and Wii Sports.

The Wii is getting more 3rd-party support (which is everyone's main complaint), they now have Mario Galaxy, they'll easily get a Mario Party 9 and will probably get Wii Sports 2 in 2008. Not to mention Super Smash Brothers Brawl. The Wii is picking up steam in both sales and software thats gonna be released.

Dude, they sold over 13 million units off of only Zelda, Mario Party and Wii Sports.

The Wii is getting more 3rd-party support (which is everyone's main complaint), they now have Mario Galaxy, they'll easily get a Mario Party 9 and will probably get Wii Sports 2 in 2008. Not to mention Super Smash Brothers Brawl. The Wii is picking up steam in both sales and software thats gonna be released.MRsickVisionz

These are just the Exclusives set for next year so far and all but Two are Third Party one is from Monolith Soft who is owned by Nintendo, and the other is Third Party but since it is a Nintendo Franchise it is a First party Title and Mario Party but I didn't include that even though it will probably release next year.

People said the same exact thing 6 months ago.

I don't expect the Wii to lose any of its selling power any time soon

WTF is up with all these cows on damage control today? Bored much?monkeysrfat

Ether bored or jealous.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="Rhys555"]

Yes, yes i asm a cow. And the thing is, sony still has many of is valued 'big games' to be released, unlike the 'ninty trinity of zelda, mario and metroid. 2 of 3 flopped aswell :lol:

however, im still comfortable in hyping metal gear, gran turismo, final fantasy and killzone :D

Rhys555

Your comparing a near release, factor five dragon riding gamne to metroid prime, i highly valued and cherished BNintendo series which flopped below it AAA-AAAA hype to 8.5? :lol:

Comparing a 4.5 to an 8.5?

And I have someone very special for you to meet...

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="Rhys555"]

Yes, yes i asm a cow. And the thing is, sony still has many of is valued 'big games' to be released, unlike the 'ninty trinity of zelda, mario and metroid. 2 of 3 flopped aswell :lol:

however, im still comfortable in hyping metal gear, gran turismo, final fantasy and killzone :D

Rhys555

Your comparing a near release, factor five dragon riding gamne to metroid prime, i highly valued and cherished BNintendo series which flopped below it AAA-AAAA hype to 8.5? :lol:

Please stop cramming your head with fanboy garbage. NO ONE hyped it AAAA. Secondly, Metroid is an AMAZING game that outscored your precious Ratchet and Clank, outscored your Heavenly Sword, pretty much the rest of your exclusive line up. Also, Lair was hypped AA-AAA and got 4.0 LOL! gtho.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="Rhys555"]

Yes, yes i asm a cow. And the thing is, sony still has many of is valued 'big games' to be released, unlike the 'ninty trinity of zelda, mario and metroid. 2 of 3 flopped aswell :lol:

however, im still comfortable in hyping metal gear, gran turismo, final fantasy and killzone :D

Rhys555

Your comparing a near release, factor five dragon riding gamne to metroid prime, i highly valued and cherished BNintendo series which flopped below it AAA-AAAA hype to 8.5? :lol:

you say zelda and metroid flopped...but check gamerankings :P

they will keep selling out for a good while yet nintendo have got themselves a nice little console there

Nintendo has poor third party support because third party developers weren't willing to take significant risks developing their best titles on the Wii given the failure of the Gamecube. Now that the Wii has a significant user base, the 3rd party developers will follow.

you say zelda and metroid flopped...but check gamerankings :P

they will keep selling out for a good while yet nintendo have got themselves a nice little console there

beerm_basic

*Cows realize there are no AAAE's on Gamespot*

Cows: We use Gamerankings now

*Cows then realize that they have no AAAE's on Gamerankings and even less AAE's there*

Cows: Er...IGN?

Yes, yes i asm a cow. And the thing is, sony still has many of is valued 'big games' to be released, unlike the 'ninty trinity of zelda, mario and metroid. 2 of 3 flopped aswell :lol:Rhys555

You know what's worth :lol:'ing about? The fact that you think System Wars criteria for "flops" actually coincides with reality.

mario is not the reason wii is selling

seriously if you think the wii's first party games are selling it just go home

you dont know what you're talking about

Does everyone around the earth go to Gamespot for Reviews? No.

The Nintendo Trinity of Metroid, Mario, and Zelda are all AAA on Wii according to Gamerankings. Thats better than the 0 AAA exclusives that the PS3 has. :)

Nintendo has poor third party support because third party developers weren't willing to take significant risks developing their best titles on the Wii given the failure of the Gamecube. Now that the Wii has a significant user base, the 3rd party developers will follow.

notalkjustrock

[QUOTE="notalkjustrock"]

Nintendo has poor third party support because third party developers weren't willing to take significant risks developing their best titles on the Wii given the failure of the Gamecube. Now that the Wii has a significant user base, the 3rd party developers will follow.

KungfuKitten

How long does it take to develop a game? Two years? Three?

How long ago did the Wii release?

I'm sure you can do the math.

[QUOTE="notalkjustrock"]

Nintendo has poor third party support because third party developers weren't willing to take significant risks developing their best titles on the Wii given the failure of the Gamecube. Now that the Wii has a significant user base, the 3rd party developers will follow.

KungfuKitten

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="notalkjustrock"]

Nintendo has poor third party support because third party developers weren't willing to take significant risks developing their best titles on the Wii given the failure of the Gamecube. Now that the Wii has a significant user base, the 3rd party developers will follow.

mjarantilla

How long does it take to develop a game? Two years? Three?

How long ago did the Wii release?

I'm sure you can do the math.

[QUOTE="notalkjustrock"]

Nintendo has poor third party support because third party developers weren't willing to take significant risks developing their best titles on the Wii given the failure of the Gamecube. Now that the Wii has a significant user base, the 3rd party developers will follow.

KungfuKitten

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="notalkjustrock"]

Nintendo has poor third party support because third party developers weren't willing to take significant risks developing their best titles on the Wii given the failure of the Gamecube. Now that the Wii has a significant user base, the 3rd party developers will follow.

KungfuKitten

How long does it take to develop a game? Two years? Three?

How long ago did the Wii release?

I'm sure you can do the math.

You must have been going out of your mind waiting for the 360 to get its great games during its first year, then.

People that say this are just owning themselves. Supply hasn't even met demand yet and Wii sold 350,000 while the DS sold 650,000 units last week.

Imagine how much more demand there will be after SSBB and Mario Kart.

Well... goodness...

1.)Metroid only "flopped" on GS. Let me say, that 8.5 is still a fantastic score. Everywhere else it scored quite well.
2.)Zelda TP wasa Gamecube port, on GS's new ranking system it would've scored 9, and it was a critical success everywhere else.

The Wii does not need to rely on simply the trinity of Nintendo greatness (Metroid, Mario, Zelda). There are also third party devs signing up constantly.

Not to mention that Nintendo's first party lineup is pretty deep (Donkey Kong, Starfox, F-Zero, MarioKart etc.) of course too, there are casual games.

There are also new ip's such as Disaster Day of Crisis (Ninty) and third party ip's as well- No More Heroes. Also third parties are dedicating more time and improvements to their games so doesn't end up being crap. Ubisoft's pledge on Red Steel 2 (the first game wasn't even that bad and improved version will fantastic) as well as Sega's apparent dedication.

As well as a better dedication to online multiplayer- Medal of Honor Heroes 2 : 32 player online.

And of course, one of the best system sellers ever. Smash Bros. is coming.

There are also rumours flying of a Metal Gear Wii, and a Kid Icarus Wii.

The Wii is packing a punch for the hardcores. It's only the beginning.