Honest graphics comparison

@Juub1990: http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/rise-of-the-tomb-raider-graphics-and-performance-guide#rise-of-the-tomb-raider-texture-quality

"From our comparisons and over 16 hours of gameplay and testing, we can confidently state that the difference between Very High and High is minimal in most scenes, with only the occasional object or surface suffering a noticeable loss of detail."

DURR DURR WHICH WAY DID HE GO GEORGE WHICH WAY DID HE GO DURR DURR

im pretty sure id consider suicide if i was as dumb as you

Hur hur, how about you use that shit PC of yours to take Low-settings screenshots and try to pass them up as Max settings again? My point was that your so-called shots were not maxed out as you had previously claimed. "Those shots are all maxed out except they are not". As for the textures, you gotta be blind not to notice the quality change on the fly. Look at the walls/rock formations/mountainside. Also no, those aren't max settings and as always, open the screencaps on a new tab. Am I claiming Very High is ZOMG!!! Next level tech? No but saying you don't notice 99% of the time is an outright lie. Change the texture yourself and you can see the quality drop/increase right before your eyes as they load.

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@Juub1990: idiot i havent posted any screens in this thread. altho yours do a great job at showcasing just how minuscule the difference between high and very high is

@m3dude1: And when did I claim you posted shots specifically in this thread? Doesn't matter if you think they are miniscule. The difference is there and claiming it is non existent is lying. You can instantly notice the difference on the shots I took unless you're blind.

My point still stands that you're full of shit. Those videos were not max settings so they are void.

@Juub1990: they arent void at all. the tiny ass difference your own shots demonstrate arent going to make a lick of difference on the overall visual effect of the videos i linked to. stay asshurt because TR looks like absolute shit compared to U4

@m3dude1: They are because they are not max settings so the game doesn't look as good as it can. Just like Uncharted 4 photo mode shots/cut scenes are vois becuse they enhance the image quality of the game.

You can use filters, sharpening and other effects to make the picture appear prettier just like photographs do and that's what guys like gpuking do all the time. Also some guy posted a video proving the image quality DOES increase in photo mode.

Again you're full of shit bro. You post a video with no Supersampling and no Very High textures. Those increase the quality so if they are not present the game is not maxed and therefore the video/screenshot/whatever is invalid.

Even if you think the difference is tiny it does not matter. It is still there and ignoring it is being dishonest.

Too subjective. Honestly we got to a point where basicaly every game looks great. I could say that the best looking game was Batman AK, The Witcher 3, SW Battlefront, etc and i would still be right.

Even games not particulary praised by they graphics, like Just Cause 3, Dark Souls 3, Far Cry Primal, Overwatch, etc look impressive at this point!

lol supersampling. have fun playing at 20 fps. none of the videos i linked to for U4 are photomode or cutscenes. you can cry all you want, the videos are fully representative of what TR looks like on PC. just like the videos i posted of U4 are fully representative of what it looks like. feel free to post a video of that same area to gamersyde community section if you want to try and prove otherwise. its the very first mission in soviet installation

@m3dude1: Considering I can play the game at 1440p/max settings and average around 60fps with my setup your comment of "lol 20fps" doesn't apply.

The videos are not max settings and you admitted it. We're done here.

sure you do. please provide a video showing that magic gpu you have pushing 60 fps at 1440p with supersampling

even at just 1080p a 980ti cant even AVERAGE 30 fps with 4x supersampling(which still has a fuckton of shimmering fyi. you dont get a truly clean image until you get to about 6k resolution). with an average of under 30 you can just imagine how bad the minimums are. but yeah your magic gpu is pushing 60 fps at 1440p with supersampling. seems about right . typical derpy herm idiocy.

@m3dude1: I have two 980's lol.

i dont care what you have. youre full of shit as the benchmark i just posted shows. TR doesnt even have great sli scaling either so el oh el

Ryse looks better, but it's a far worse game than Uncharted 4; so this latter wins.

@m3dude1: It actually has some of the best multi-gpu scaling around.

http://m.hardocp.com/article/2016/02/15/rise_tomb_raider_video_card_performance_review/10#.V1Ktu1Ws-nM

Also yes I do play max settings with SSAA 2X and 1440p on my setup and averaged 60fps in the built-in benchmark. Problem is 4GB is an issue at those settings and I get random dips that last for seconds as the texture loads and then my performance goes back up. Otherwise the cards do a great job at maintaing 60fps 90% of the time(ignoring the loading textures).

please keep lying. 1440p with 2xssaa is 4k. heres hardocps 4k result with 980 sli

avg 35 fps minimum 16. EL OH EL OH EL. and again, 1440p with only 2xssaa is still a shimmery mess. derpy herm loses again. and now we have shown that the videos i posted are completely representative as you can see what a mess performance is when you try to use ssaa

@m3dude1: It actually isn't. 1080p with SSAA 4X is 4K equivalent. 2560x1440 with SSAA 2x is below that.

Also why are you posting a 4K benchmark? That's not a direcr comparison at all.

its really not surprising at all that you dont know how to do math.

SSAA 4X is 2x2.

1920X2= 3840

1080x2= 2160

SSAA 2X is 1.41x1.41 which is almost 2.

SSAA 4X is 4 pixels from a single one and 2X is 2 pixels from a single one.

2560x1.41=3610

1440x1.41=2030

In short 4K has about 1.13-1.15x more "pixels" than SSAA 2X at 1440p.

TR applies each axis x1.5 for their ssaa. this is what pretty much every game does as well. the last game that didnt do this was metro last light.

1440p no ssaa. its extremely obvious your claimed numbers are pure lies

What parameters do you guys use to determine which one looks better?

All I can clearly see is that out of Uncharted 4, Rise of the Tomb Raider and Ryse, Ryse seems to look more realistic than the other two; Uncharted in particular has some kind of cartoonish palette, which looks nice.

Fanboys... let it go. UC4 isn't the best looking game.

Yeah and it averages 72fps and is a reference model. Mine is a Superclocked model which is about 10% faster out of the box and I added another +100Mhz/350 overclocked. With that it's about 20% faster than a reference model. Here I recorded a video. FPS counter is on the top left corner.

Average is actually above 60fps. I averaged 74fps at Very High Settings/High textures in the benchmark. High Textures is the killer here as the game specifically tells you you need more than 4GB of VRAM for it. The Frame Rate tends to have brief but very noticeable drops but the average still is very close or in the 60's with my 980's. I also hope those guys OC'd their RAM as it helps out a lot for minimum frame rates.

good job not testing either of the large hub areas where the majority of the game takes place. performance in this opening section is far higher.

Lol GTFO, just like with The Division you're moving the goal posts. The video is right there at Very High settings and averages above 60fps. I scored 74fps in the built-in benchmark(with High textures which don't impact performance too much but do produce stuttering when briefly loading textures). Reference models at least 20%(probably more along the lines of 25%) slower than my 980's scored 72fps at max settings and 1440p. I could probably average around 80fps in that bench. Is it really difficult to believe SSAA 2X would incure a 20-25fps hit dropping my averages to 55-60 exactly like in the video I posted?

Yeah you got nothing to back you up. Show me a video/benchmark of a pair of 980's with SSAA 2X averaging way below what I scored. Posting a bench at 4K doesn't count. The penalties aren't the same. 4K with no AA causes a larger drop in performance than 1920x1080 with 4X SSAA. There is around 5fps of difference in my game.

Don't pay any attention to that guy, he's been trying to slag this game every time it comes up and posts the absolute worst media he can find, he's an idiot.

@Juub1990: We know your reading comprehension is lacking but I posted a quote directly from DF. Try reading it again and then getting back to me. I can link you 4 separate reviews that said it was the best looking game period. You then said "random reviews don't count". When DF said it sets a new standard in realtime rendering, they said for video games not just for consoles.

So WTF is your reply to me about? This thread compares it to ROTTR. You yourself said no game is the best at everything so what exactly is your argument. Other then posting no facts and lacking basic reading comprehension all while calling me a liar. You have continued your trend of shitposting.

@zaryia: Angry joe is a hardcore PC gamer and he thought it was the best. Stop the bullshit.

Uncharted 4 is not the best looking game, it doesn't matter what anyone says, it's most certainly not and since you're just some ignorant console gamer you have zero fucking reference to how poor Uncharted 4 actually stacks up to maxed out PC games...

Angry Joe is a console gamer pretending to be a PC gamer... This is such a cringe worthy statement...

@AM-Gamer: Angry Joe is a console gamer who got a new PC built last year with donations. He's not a hardcore PC gamer.

Also where is that quote from DF? Reviewers don't matter. They are no experts in graphics. Also why did you ignore my post about the 2D trees? There was a screencap.

Does it really matter? None of these people are "qualified" to make the statement especially on a topic that is subjective. Who cares what person X says? These are all gamers that are factually on equal footing to every other gamer on this site.

Uncharted 4 sports the best technical feats for real time in their cutscenes. It displays a very high production value.

Almost any newer game that is shared with PC, Doom, Arkham Knight, Ryse, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Just Cause 3, Battlefront etc.

On a rig maxing these games out they look ridiculous, Uncharted 4 has some impressive technology in certain respects but it's being completely wasted because of the weak hardware it's running on. Because of the vaseline look Uncharted 4 has with its AA method it looks like a 900p game which compounds the hardware weaknesses even further.

It's a great looking game for what it is and what it's running on but in comparison to PC it looks simply decent.

I am not a big fan of the recent install of Uncharted 4 but you are grotesquely understating how well the game looks. The main reason this game looks the way it does is due to the high production value. That is the main driving factor in any game looking consistently fantastic on a technical level. Trying to say that Uncharted 4 looks simply decent is bullshit from concentrate.

This predicates the fact that fanboy graphics comparisons even make a single iota of sense in the first place.

plz listen to your self talk this is exactly what i mention sony fans are 1 track mind

Sony> all : mentality

your arguing the guy video evidenace for god sakes not like it matter Ryse tops both

Edit: show me any 1 picture of Uc4 and il find a similar on Ryse that shits on it (in gameplay)

No it's not, you don't seem to understand the concept of relativity...

Uncharted 4's visual impressiveness is a product of what you own, have personally experienced or seen, you gauge its graphical competence based upon things in your personal environment. To you it may look stunning because you don't have a high end PC or reference to anything beyond it, to me I have reference to things beyond it and in comparison it's nothing special and is overshadowed.

Let me put it to you this way since I own/owned both, say you own a Yamaha R6, that's a 600cc sport bike and to you this bike is insanely fast, it's the fastest vehicle you have ever ridden/driven, in your world it's the highest amount of speed and acceleration you have ever experienced and it's your reference to both. Now take me, say I own a Yamaha R1 which is a 1000cc sport bike, my concept of acceleration and speed is going to be dramatically different than yours due to my bike having a 66.66% higher engine displacement, I'm going to experience substantially better acceleration than you, I'm going to experience substantially higher speeds than you.

To me your R6 is relatively slow in comparison to my R1, they're both fast bikes, however the latter is an entirely different level and experience.

@panda30: Video evidence? UC4 shits on Ryse you are delusional. You also spend every post bashing a game you never played. I own Ryse and no it doesn't touch UC4.

Do you own Ryse on PC? We both know the answer is no, you have no reference to what Ryse looks like on a high end PC.

Stop talking.

can you see the difrence now betwing high and low LOL

@dynamitecop: You just said any multi-plat on PC looks better which shows how utterly fucking delusional you are. You are a hardcore lem who hides behind PC on an alt account so please don't even try to talk about your credibility on the matter. Many of the games you listed have little to differentiate themselves from there console counterparts so again this shows how little you know.

ok then acept my challage show me any gameplay uncharted4 picture and il get a similar that shits on it of Ryse

@dynamitecop: I've seen Ryse on a high end PC and know it shares most of the same assets. Again no it doesn't touch UC4. You just said AK looks better on PC please go make another alt account.

Hold your horse buddy. Don't try using some condescending bullshit as the crux of your argument. This has nothing to do with relativity. You literally making shit up. Also don't try to educate me on graphics or imply that I don't know the difference. You may be pushing your agenda based on some bias and false pretense notion but I am not. You can conveniently try to skew and deviate for your own means and try to conjure up some illogical non relating analogy to back your false claim but in the end you are simply deviating. The fact that you are stating that the graphics in Uncharted is simply decent is demonstrating that you are full of crap just like your failed and incorrectly used analogy.

Its one thing to say that the graphics is not as fantastical as some people make it out to be but when you try to take the absolute opposite stance you become equally insane as them. The fact of the matter is that graphics in games are normalizing and you are here pretending that its not.

@Juub1990: It's on the video analysis.

Every multi-plat looks better on PC, that's just a fact, what's more is these multi-platform games overshadow even the best console exclusives, a concept you don't understand because you don't own a PC.

Hide behind the PC? Bitch, I've been a PC gamer since I was 5 years old with a Commodore SX64, I'm almost 31 now, I've been on Valve's network since it was the WON and not Steam, I've been on Steam since the morning it launched, I have nearly 1,000 PC games, get the **** out of here you lowly and ignorant console gamer who has zero concept of the things he's attempting to discuss.

This is all beyond your levels of understanding, experience, knowledge and overall comprehension.

In comparison to what I currently own it is decent, the technology is for the most part impressive, but the hardware it is operating on has severely gimped everything about the game and what it could be. It COULD be the best looking game, I'd actually say it WOULD be the best looking game released, HAD IT BEEN ON PC...

But it's not, so it suffers from the pitfalls of a console development budget, impressive in its own rights for the hardware it is on, but in general, it's not.

@panda30: I've seen you take this challenge and you dismiss every screenshots as a bullshot even if it's non photomode. So what's the point?

Really. This is the bullshit you have de-evolved into. Tsk. I thought you were slightly reasonable. :(