Halo 3 to have the largest battle in a FPS ever?

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#1 swaginator
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It is said at the end of the second mission in Halo 3 it will have a battle with more players than in the entire first level of Halo 1. Halo 1 had 130 baddies in it and a platoon of marines. And rumor has it that this won't even be the biggest battle in the game.

So what do you think? Could this be the biggest battle ever? Or was there a bigger one that i have never heard of?

Discuss.

http://gamers-creed.com/?p=30

Edit: Maybe i should rephrase. Is this the biggest battle ever seen in a FPS?

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#2 mtradr43
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technically, the total war games have pretty big battles. but in a fps standpoint, you may be right
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#3 hkmp5a2
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rome total war....like the guy above me said for a fps it could be

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#5 Ibacai
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It could be possible for this to be the biggest battle in an FPS. Serious Sam 1 and 2 have a lot of huge battles but nothing on that scale.
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#6 aFrostyBears
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I remember one battle of KH2 had 1000 enemies on the screen at once which was pretty awesome.
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#7 mtradr43
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It could be possible for this to be the biggest battle in an FPS. Serious Sam 1 and 2 have a lot of huge battles but nothing on that scale.Ibacai

mabye, but every tiem i play serious same and that many guys get on the screen the game turns into a slideshow. at least for the console versions ive played.

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#8 Bansheesdie
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Probably the largest FPS battle, this is going to be insane.

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#9 swaginator
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I don't know if this is gonna be the biggest. But by golly i bet it's fun:P.
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#10 darklord888
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130 bad guys at once? It'll either be in waves of 5-10 or they will be spread out. 130 in one bit would make an FPS with that type of AI roll up into a ball and die.

If they did pull it off though, wow that would be awesome.

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#11 iNeedFreedom
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medievel 2 total war, and rome total war's 10,000 plus says no .Damm Console fanboys never experienced such large battle thus have to be wowed by halos 100 or so:lol:
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medievel 2 total war, and rome total war's 10,000 plus says no .Damm Console fanboys never experienced such large battle thus have to be wowed by halos 100 or so:lol: iNeedFreedom

dont forget that the level of detail in those total war games is crap compared to that of an fps

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#13 swaginator
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130 bad guys at once? It'll either be in waves of 5-10 or they will be spread out. 130 in one bit would make an FPS with that type of AI roll up into a ball and die.

If they did pull it off though, wow that would be awesome.

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I have been reading for a long time that bungie wasn't going for super highly detailed models because they wanted to save all the power they could for more stuff on screen at once.
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#14 D00nut
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medievel 2 total war, and rome total war's 10,000 plus says no .Damm Console fanboys never experienced such large battle thus have to be wowed by halos 100 or so:lol: iNeedFreedom
Yes because we all know FPS games are known for their 100+ scale battles :roll:
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I don't know if this is gonna be the biggest. But by golly i bet it's fun:P.swaginator
It will be super dee duper neighbor!
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300v300v300 about 900 players battling over one base in a single location in Planetside.
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#17 PBSnipes
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medievel 2 total war, and rome total war's 10,000 plus says no .Damm Console fanboys never experienced such large battle thus have to be wowed by halos 100 or so:lol: iNeedFreedom
Yes but those 10,000+ units in rome total war aren't autonomous, the ones in Halo 3 are.
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#18 swaginator
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medievel 2 total war, and rome total war's 10,000 plus says no .Damm Console fanboys never experienced such large battle thus have to be wowed by halos 100 or so:lol: iNeedFreedom
Yes 10,000 characters the size of 3 pixels each is amazing. Now compare that to a FPS. Now go away.
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#19 Ibacai
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I remember one battle of KH2 had 1000 enemies on the screen at once which was pretty awesome.aFrostyBears
Yeah, it looks good in motion but if you really look closely only about 25-30 are rendered at a time. The rest are cutouts that pop when you kill enough.
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#21 D00nut
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[QUOTE="aFrostyBears"]I remember one battle of KH2 had 1000 enemies on the screen at once which was pretty awesome.Ibacai
Yeah, it looks good in motion but if you really look closely only about 25-30 are rendered at a time. The rest are cutouts that pop when you kill enough.

Not to mention they all sort of just stood there as Sora unleashed triangle attacks on them.
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#22 LastSamurai14
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I'd rather have smarterNPC than more (quantity)crappy AI. Like the "HIVE system" that heavenly sword is using, where they split into smaller and smaller squads as they get to you. They can have (said by devs) 1000 NPC on the screen, each with their own AI
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#23 baddog121390
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Crysis is to support 100 units on-screen at once.
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#24 foxhound_fox
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Are we talking all at once or in waves? Because I don't see the 360 hardware having the capabilities of pulling all-at-once off...
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#25 swaginator
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[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]iNeedFreedom
If you go back to my original post i rephrased my question. To is there a fps battle that is bigger.
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#27 iNeedFreedom
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[QUOTE="iNeedFreedom"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]swaginator
If you go back to my original post i rephrased my question. To is there a fps battle that is bigger.

Once again so? 10,000 >100 or so.
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#28 swaginator
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Are we talking all at once or in waves? Because I don't see the 360 hardware having the capabilities of pulling all-at-once off...foxhound_fox
And obviously you know all the limitations of the 360's hardware right? And it doesn't say if they are coming in waves. It just says at the end of mission 2 there will be a battle with more characters than the first mission in Halo 1.
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#29 swaginator
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[QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="iNeedFreedom"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]iNeedFreedom
If you go back to my original post i rephrased my question. To is there a fps battle that is bigger.

Once again so? 10,000 >100 or so.

10,000 characters that have little to no detail is owned by 100 or more characters in a FPS with very nice visuals.
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#30 PBSnipes
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Are we talking all at once or in waves? Because I don't see the 360 hardware having the capabilities of pulling all-at-once off...foxhound_fox
I'm sure it's just one big battle, it just won't be 100+ on screen.
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#31 MgamerBD
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It sounds fun and amazing i wonder how smart the ai will be.
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[QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="iNeedFreedom"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]iNeedFreedom
If you go back to my original post i rephrased my question. To is there a fps battle that is bigger.

Once again so? 10,000 >100 or so.

FPS. Okay, he said FPS, as in first person shooter. Is Medival or Rome total war FPS? No. So please read his whole question.

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Crysis is to support 100 units on-screen at once. baddog121390

Isn't the normal encounter size around 10-20 in Crysis?

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#35 iNeedFreedom
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[QUOTE="iNeedFreedom"][QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="iNeedFreedom"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]manningbowl135

If you go back to my original post i rephrased my question. To is there a fps battle that is bigger.

Once again so? 10,000 >100 or so.

FPS. Okay, he said FPS, as in first person shooter. Is Medival or Rome total war FPS? No. So please read his whole question.

No he edited and then said fps.His original post dint include largest battle in fps,it clearly said largest battle ever.
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#36 Sully28
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Hmm well i guess this gives me some hope for intense fights when i play this on coop with my friends. But i think heavenly sword will still have bigger battles.

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Stickies!!!
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[QUOTE="baddog121390"]Crysis is to support 100 units on-screen at once. Bansheesdie

Isn't the normal encounter size around 10-20 in Crysis?

Usually, yes, in the action bubbles - but in a few occasions they will get fairly big.
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#39 darklord888
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[QUOTE="iNeedFreedom"][QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="iNeedFreedom"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]swaginator
If you go back to my original post i rephrased my question. To is there a fps battle that is bigger.

Once again so? 10,000 >100 or so.

10,000 characters that have little to no detail is owned by 100 or more characters in a FPS with very nice visuals.



Plus they act as groups and unless you have it on max the far away ones are sprites.
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#40 swaginator
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[QUOTE="manningbowl135"]

[QUOTE="iNeedFreedom"][QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="iNeedFreedom"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]iNeedFreedom

If you go back to my original post i rephrased my question. To is there a fps battle that is bigger.

Once again so? 10,000 >100 or so.

FPS. Okay, he said FPS, as in first person shooter. Is Medival or Rome total war FPS? No. So please read his whole question.

No he edited and then said fps.His original post dint include largest battle in fps,it clearly said largest battle ever.

But i meant in a fps.
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[QUOTE="iNeedFreedom"]medievel 2 total war, and rome total war's 10,000 plus says no .Damm Console fanboys never experienced such large battle thus have to be wowed by halos 100 or so:lol: mtradr43

dont forget that the level of detail in those total war games is crap compared to that of an fps

Nah, if you have a PC that could handle it, the models and character detail in Medieval 2: Total War look great. Right now, I can only run it at about medium and the soldiers don't look bad at all.

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[QUOTE="mtradr43"]

[QUOTE="iNeedFreedom"]medievel 2 total war, and rome total war's 10,000 plus says no .Damm Console fanboys never experienced such large battle thus have to be wowed by halos 100 or so:lol: Baird-06

dont forget that the level of detail in those total war games is crap compared to that of an fps

Nah, if you have a PC that could handle it, the models and character detail in Medieval 2: Total War look great. Right now, I can only run it at about medium and the soldiers don't look bad at all.



Nothing remotely close to a current FPS. Maybe a crappy PS2 shooter.
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#43 Bansheesdie
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But i meant in a fps. swaginator

Then you should edit your topic title. May I suggest "Will Halo 3 have the largest FPS battles?""

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#44 darklord888
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[QUOTE="swaginator"]But i meant in a fps. Bansheesdie

Then you should edit your topic title.

Seriously fix your font...I can't even read it without highlighting it. -_-

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[QUOTE="Baird-06"][QUOTE="mtradr43"]

[QUOTE="iNeedFreedom"]medievel 2 total war, and rome total war's 10,000 plus says no .Damm Console fanboys never experienced such large battle thus have to be wowed by halos 100 or so:lol: darklord888

dont forget that the level of detail in those total war games is crap compared to that of an fps

Nah, if you have a PC that could handle it, the models and character detail in Medieval 2: Total War look great. Right now, I can only run it at about medium and the soldiers don't look bad at all.



Nothing remotely close to a current FPS. Maybe a crappy PS2 shooter.

Well, I was just saying that they didn't look like crap.

But then again he did say "compared to that of an FPS"... so nevermind...

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#46 lantus
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Cool, I hope it's in that same setting from the Halo 3 TV commercial, that looked epic.

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#47 swaginator
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Cool, I hope it's in that same setting from the Halo 3 TV commercial, that looked epic.

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Oh yeah, that looked pretty awesome.
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#48 Ragashahs
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hevenly sword in the opening balle will have 200(i think even more) bad guys on screen at once.
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#49 Mil-m5
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Doesn't Call of duty have bigger battles? There are some battles where you end up with an insane pile of dead nazis and still most of the bodies have spawned off.
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#50 HVPinc
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I'm more excited because in the beta I saw a guy fly up in a banshee until he reached space. I'm not sure if it was fake but if it was real just imagine the mission possibilities! Fly up while fighting off guys and fly up to halo or something like that! HUGE STARWARS STYLE SPACE WAR!