Halo 3 1080p versus KZ2 720p

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#1 thedynamite007
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Halo 3 is now a 1080p native. http://n4g.com/xbox360/News-66854.aspx

KZ 2 is lock at 720p only and 30fps, Is this the way of MS and Bungie to counter Sony and KZ 2 hype and nailing the coffin early against them?

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#2 wolverine4262
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I could have sworn itd only run 1080p upscaled like most other 360 games....doesnt matter to me, neway... My tv is 1080i...
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We'll see
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#4 snorlaxmaster
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360 can't do 1080p without upscaling. Halo 3 runs at 30fps anyway. (don't ask for a source it was in a mag.)
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360 can't do 1080p without upscaling. Halo 3 runs at 30fps anyway. (don't ask for a source it was in a mag.)snorlaxmaster
well, thats just wrong... there are a few games out there that run 1080p natively....
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#6 LibertySaint
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360 can't do 1080p without upscaling. Halo 3 runs at 30fps anyway. (don't ask for a source it was in a mag.)snorlaxmaster

nah sorry snorlax, it does run at 60 fps'es according ro bungie about 2 months ago on there website, and 1080p it does do...but idk about native...anyways, halo didn't go for best graphics, it just went with graphics that work.

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[QUOTE="snorlaxmaster"]360 can't do 1080p without upscaling. Halo 3 runs at 30fps anyway. (don't ask for a source it was in a mag.)LibertySaint

nah sorry snorlax, it does run at 60 fps'es according ro bungie about 2 months ago on there website, and 1080p it does do...but idk about native...anyways, halo didn't go for best graphics, it just went with graphics that work.

link please.... I coulda sworn it was 30, and Im an avid Bungie.net fan....
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Killzone should never be compared to the Greatness of the Halo Series until is has a worthy game in the series on Ps3. We will have to wait.
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#9 reddemon502
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Killzone should never be compared to the Greatness of the Halo Series until is has a worthy game in the series on Ps3. We will have to wait.Cubs360

There is nothing great about halo, its just another fps. Same with killzone, they are all just ordinary fps's

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#10 lhughey
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Its a common misnomer that the X360 can't do 1080p natively, but it can. And games that aren't programmed in 1080p are upscaled.
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[QUOTE="snorlaxmaster"]360 can't do 1080p without upscaling. Halo 3 runs at 30fps anyway. (don't ask for a source it was in a mag.)LibertySaint

nah sorry snorlax, it does run at 60 fps'es according ro bungie about 2 months ago on there website, and 1080p it does do...but idk about native...anyways, halo didn't go for best graphics, it just went with graphics that work.

upscale? u do know 1080i is still 1920x1080 but its 30 hz while p is 60hz. by the way only crt can do interlacing. lcd and plas just convert it to the native signal
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#12 chikenfriedrice
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360 can't do 1080p without upscaling. Halo 3 runs at 30fps anyway. (don't ask for a source it was in a mag.)snorlaxmaster

so my elite 360 with HDMI can't do 1080P native.....think before u speak

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#13 Fignewton50
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Just because it has the 1080p logo on the back doesn't mean it's 1080p natively. I thought all 360 games were made in 720p natively.
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#14 -Sniper99-
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Let's wait and see until they both come out. Final stage:)
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SDTV owner ftw?
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[QUOTE="snorlaxmaster"]360 can't do 1080p without upscaling. Halo 3 runs at 30fps anyway. (don't ask for a source it was in a mag.)chikenfriedrice

so my elite 360 with HDMI can't do 1080P native.....think before u speak

Just because it has hdmi doesnt mean its native 1080P, think before you speak

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#17 LibertySaint
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[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]

[QUOTE="snorlaxmaster"]360 can't do 1080p without upscaling. Halo 3 runs at 30fps anyway. (don't ask for a source it was in a mag.)wolverine4262

nah sorry snorlax, it does run at 60 fps'es according ro bungie about 2 months ago on there website, and 1080p it does do...but idk about native...anyways, halo didn't go for best graphics, it just went with graphics that work.

link please.... I coulda sworn it was 30, and Im an avid Bungie.net fan....

kk i'll look it was like in june i believe, i'll see if they arhcieve the news stories...it was on the home page in some week in june, it talked about how the graphics look good with this black lining fliter and that they ran 60fps....i'll look but give me a few.

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#18 thedynamite007
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I think this is the way of MS to counter KZ2. 1080p is a big feat especially for a FPS, and its native 1080p by the way. Take that Lair!
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[QUOTE="snorlaxmaster"]360 can't do 1080p without upscaling. Halo 3 runs at 30fps anyway. (don't ask for a source it was in a mag.)chikenfriedrice

so my elite 360 with HDMI can't do 1080P native.....think before u speak

:lol: Think before you speak buddy. 720p native means the game was built pretty much to look like that. It can upscale to 1080p, but it doesn't look as good as a native 1080p game. Look at Rainbow 6 Vegas for PS3. It UPSCALES to 1080i, and it look horrendous unless you put it back down to 720p. If it was NATIVLEY 1080i, it would look much better.
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#20 LibertySaint
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[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]

[QUOTE="snorlaxmaster"]360 can't do 1080p without upscaling. Halo 3 runs at 30fps anyway. (don't ask for a source it was in a mag.)deadmeat59

nah sorry snorlax, it does run at 60 fps'es according ro bungie about 2 months ago on there website, and 1080p it does do...but idk about native...anyways, halo didn't go for best graphics, it just went with graphics that work.

upscale? u do know 1080i is still 1920x1080 but its 30 hz while p is 60hz. by the way only crt can do interlacing. lcd and plas just convert it to the native signal

i don't know why u quoted me but okay...

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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="snorlaxmaster"]360 can't do 1080p without upscaling. Halo 3 runs at 30fps anyway. (don't ask for a source it was in a mag.)-Sniper99-

so my elite 360 with HDMI can't do 1080P native.....think before u speak

:lol: Think before you speak buddy. 720p native means the game was built pretty much to look like that. It can upscale to 1080p, but it doesn't look as good as a native 1080p game. Look at Rainbow 6 Vegas for PS3. It UPSCALES to 1080i, and it look horrendous unless you put it back down to 720p. If it was NATIVLEY 1080i, it would look much better.

regardless, there are still games that are 1080p native on the 360....
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how can they even fit 1080p on dvd? dvd is ment for 480p
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#23 LibertySaint
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idk i can't find it...well i guess say 30 for now then, but i remember reading they were going for 60 fps and the best was locked at 30....
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#24 MGS9150
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Killzone 2 looks much better and has more things going on at once, I doubt they could make the game run at 30fps at 1080p and meet the early 2008 release date.
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#25 Koalakommander
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I'm confused by this thread. Are we arguing about what the 360 can do with resolutions? or which game looks better?

it must be the first one, because I think everyone agrees KZ2 looks better.

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[QUOTE="snorlaxmaster"]360 can't do 1080p without upscaling. Halo 3 runs at 30fps anyway. (don't ask for a source it was in a mag.)chikenfriedrice

so my elite 360 with HDMI can't do 1080P native.....think before u speak

elites can do 1080p, cores and premiums cant

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#27 RonnieLottinSF
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Halo 3 is going to be in 1080p? Awesome if true.
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[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]

[QUOTE="snorlaxmaster"]360 can't do 1080p without upscaling. Halo 3 runs at 30fps anyway. (don't ask for a source it was in a mag.)deadmeat59

nah sorry snorlax, it does run at 60 fps'es according ro bungie about 2 months ago on there website, and 1080p it does do...but idk about native...anyways, halo didn't go for best graphics, it just went with graphics that work.

upscale? u do know 1080i is still 1920x1080 but its 30 hz while p is 60hz. by the way only crt can do interlacing. lcd and plas just convert it to the native signal

That is wrong. Disregard what this says and if you would like to know the differences just read about them but please do not believe this post.

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360 can't do 1080p without upscaling. Halo 3 runs at 30fps anyway. (don't ask for a source it was in a mag.)snorlaxmaster

Actually it renders at 1080p. Top Spin 3 was 1080p..You've been corrected, take it and leave:)

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how can they even fit 1080p on dvd? dvd is ment for 480pdeadmeat59

:| This thread...is really...where do I start...

360 can do 1080p, triple core processor and a 1900XT? Only a fanboy will tell you otherwise. And games render graphics...it doesn't store every frame onto the DVD...:|

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Killzone 2 looks much better and has more things going on at once, I doubt they could make the game run at 30fps at 1080p and meet the early 2008 release date.MGS9150

Ha! No:|

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#32 LibertySaint
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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="snorlaxmaster"]360 can't do 1080p without upscaling. Halo 3 runs at 30fps anyway. (don't ask for a source it was in a mag.)Mikerules868

so my elite 360 with HDMI can't do 1080P native.....think before u speak

elites can do 1080p, cores and premiums cant

yeah since july cores and premiums can. and anyone whats with this arguments, killzone goes for graphics at 30 fps at 720p, halo 3 goes for fun and cool art style that runs at 30fps at 1080p.

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Just because it has the 1080p logo on the back doesn't mean it's 1080p natively. I thought all 360 games were made in 720p natively. Fignewton50

Uhm most 360 games say 720p/1080i. Thats what it renders at.. It can also do 1080p natively.

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#34 LibertySaint
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oh plus whats the point of comparing them killzone 2 is coming out what 10 months after halo 3? or is it 7? cause thats alot of dev time! Alot!
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[QUOTE="MGS9150"]Killzone 2 looks much better and has more things going on at once, I doubt they could make the game run at 30fps at 1080p and meet the early 2008 release date.GazzaB

Ha! No:|

A big hell no..

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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="snorlaxmaster"]360 can't do 1080p without upscaling. Halo 3 runs at 30fps anyway. (don't ask for a source it was in a mag.)Mikerules868

so my elite 360 with HDMI can't do 1080P native.....think before u speak

elites can do 1080p, cores and premiums cant

uhhhh... then, why on my pro console can I choose it to output at 1080p?

[QUOTE="MGS9150"]Killzone 2 looks much better and has more things going on at once, I doubt they could make the game run at 30fps at 1080p and meet the early 2008 release date.GazzaB

Ha! No:|

I thought the same.... I just didnt want to start anything...
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#37 jdp0412
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Where do people even get this stuff?

Elites can do 1080p but core and premium can't?

How can they fit 1080p on DVD?

Only difference between interlaced and progressive is 30hz vs 60hz?

Do you guys make this stuff up as you go or what?

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#38 RonnieLottinSF
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uhhhh... then, why on my pro console can I choose it to output at 1080p?wolverine4262

Same here.

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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="snorlaxmaster"]360 can't do 1080p without upscaling. Halo 3 runs at 30fps anyway. (don't ask for a source it was in a mag.)Mikerules868

so my elite 360 with HDMI can't do 1080P native.....think before u speak

elites can do 1080p, cores and premiums cant

Cores and premiums can do 1080p with component and VGA. HDMI is not the only means for 1080p. Plus the new Premiums have HDMI now too so get your info straight.
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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="snorlaxmaster"]360 can't do 1080p without upscaling. Halo 3 runs at 30fps anyway. (don't ask for a source it was in a mag.)Mikerules868

so my elite 360 with HDMI can't do 1080P native.....think before u speak

elites can do 1080p, cores and premiums cant

CORES AND PREMIUMS CAN DO 1920x1080p THROUGH COMPONENT IF YOUR HDTV ALLOWS FOR THAT RESOLUTION THROUGH THAT INTERFACE! IT CAN ALSO DO 1080p through VGA, every 360 can.

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A big hell no..

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#42 Pro_wrestler
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[QUOTE="Mikerules868"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="snorlaxmaster"]360 can't do 1080p without upscaling. Halo 3 runs at 30fps anyway. (don't ask for a source it was in a mag.)LibertySaint

so my elite 360 with HDMI can't do 1080P native.....think before u speak

elites can do 1080p, cores and premiums cant

yeah since july cores and premiums can. and anyone whats with this arguments, killzone goes for graphics at 30 fps at 720p, halo 3 goes for fun and cool art style that runs at 30fps at 1080p.

360's have been able to render at 1080p through componant and VGA since launch..:|

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#43 gerard-williams
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ninja gaiden sigma runs in 1080p as well and that looks pretty damn average, gears of war 720p destroys everything out now including halo 3, and killzone 2 will be the next one to do so at 720p, if anything it's a sign the game really is just halo 2 in hd if they are running the game easy at 1080p, if they was going for graphics like gears of war and killzone 2 it would more than likely end up in 720p
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[QUOTE="Cubs360"]Killzone should never be compared to the Greatness of the Halo Series until is has a worthy game in the series on Ps3. We will have to wait.reddemon502

There is nothing great about halo, its just another fps. Same with killzone, they are all just ordinary fps's



That's what it said about Halo 3 on the cover of TIME :)
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360's have been able to render at 1080p through componant and VGA since launch..:|

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[QUOTE="MGS9150"]Killzone 2 looks much better and has more things going on at once, I doubt they could make the game run at 30fps at 1080p and meet the early 2008 release date.GazzaB

Ha! No:|

HAHA yea.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21504.html

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I want play Halo 3
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[QUOTE="Cubs360"]Killzone should never be compared to the Greatness of the Halo Series until is has a worthy game in the series on Ps3. We will have to wait.reddemon502

There is nothing great about halo, its just another fps. Same with killzone, they are all just ordinary fps's



If Halo is an "ordinary" fps.. what's above average =/
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[QUOTE="GazzaB"]

[QUOTE="MGS9150"]Killzone 2 looks much better and has more things going on at once, I doubt they could make the game run at 30fps at 1080p and meet the early 2008 release date.MGS9150

Ha! No:|

HAHA yea.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21504.html

If that vid dont have 50 plus enemies onscreen with airborne and ground skirmishes going on in all directions for 10 miles, then it fails before I click the link...
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#50 hoagey
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how can they even fit 1080p on dvd? dvd is ment for 480pdeadmeat59

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