Gran Turismo 5: PS3 'not enough' to handle Yamauchi's vision

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#1 SwagSurf
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http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=274146

Yamauchi you crazy man :P

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#2 tomarlyn
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Make a PC game then In b4 ''technology is only a tool''
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#3 EPaul
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This reminds me of Kojima and MGS4 back in the day...lol

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#4 pimpog
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He should make his next game on pc then lmao

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#6 RavenLoud
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Teh Cell is sad.

"I cannoz do 1080p 120fps in 4D" :(

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#7 Vader993
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Maybe the ps5

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#8 hd5870corei7
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damn... imagine if he made GT5 to make GTX 480 3 way's struggle to run Oo

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#9 windsquid9000
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My sentiments exactly. I've always thought consoles were blasphemy to the GT series. At the least, they should be allowed to make PC/PS3 muti-plats :(

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#10 RavenLoud
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My sentiments exactly. I've always thought consoles were blasphemy to the GT series. At the least, they should be allowed to make PC/PS3 muti-plats :(

windsquid9000
I don't know about that. Imagine how long it would take if he was allowed to make the game on PC.
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#11 Nonstop-Madness
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David Jaffe put it well, You have an ultimate vision and when a new piece of hardware comes out, you get a little closer to that vision but you never really achieve it.
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#12 Fightingfan
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Well, we have 5970 akimbo's and i7 980x asking to be bottle necked so go for it Mr. Yamauchi.
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#13 racing1750
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Well GT5 looks beautiful. It's not like he's ever going to make anything but playstation exclusive games.
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#14 dragonfly110
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[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

My sentiments exactly. I've always thought consoles were blasphemy to the GT series. At the least, they should be allowed to make PC/PS3 muti-plats :(

RavenLoud

I don't know about that. Imagine how long it would take if he was allowed to make the game on PC.

he'd be restarting every time new hardware released :lol:

but in all honesty Im sure the game will still be fantastic, its good to see devs being honest with there thoughts

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#15 theuncharted34
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the ps4 will handle anyone's vision. plus the wii 2, and the xbox whatever it's called. graphics will peak by next gen.

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#16 theuncharted34
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"The PS3 is arguably the most technologically impressive games console on the market"

that isn't arguable.

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#17 chaplainDMK
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He can stay on consoles, its taking him long enough to finish his games there, on PC we would probaby get GT6 in 2054
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#18 emorainbo
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GT6 PC exclusive confirmed?

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#19 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]Make a PC game then In b4 ''technology is only a tool''

If he makes a PC game, 1% percent of PCs might be capable of running his vision. (Yes, made up statistic, but a realistic estimation expectations of him).
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I am sure many developers could do a lot with better hardware and an infinite budget, in the end they have to work with what they've got... or make a PC game :P [QUOTE="tomarlyn"]Make a PC game then In b4 ''technology is only a tool''

I have never seen people say that on SW, so how do you "in b4" it?
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I am sure many developers could do a lot with better hardware and an infinite budget, in the end they have to work with what they've got... or make a PC game :P [QUOTE="tomarlyn"]Make a PC game then In b4 ''technology is only a tool''SaltyMeatballs
I have never seen people say that on SW, so how do you "in b4" it?

after reading that and then looking at your sig I cannot lie, I lold :lol:

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#22 navyguy21
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It should be on PC anyway.
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#23 Ultra_Combo
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"The PS3 is arguably the most technologically impressive games console on the market"

that isn't arguable.

theuncharted34

Neither is this "but not nearly as impressive as what my PC can do, so if technicallity or graphics are so important mentioning a PS3 is silly when pc's exist" , I quoted myself LOL :P

Oh and his vision couldn't br recreated with PIXAR level PC's

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#24 racing1750
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"The PS3 is arguably the most technologically impressive games console on the market"

that isn't arguable.

theuncharted34

Err, of course it is. The 360 and PS3 are really close when you compare the hardware. Yes the PS3 has 3 better looking games, but it's just that, three games. The 360 needs proper talented devs who will commit the time to push the system. Developers like T10 use older engines. Sony's dev's use engines built from the ground up, or spend more time beefing up the visuals.

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#25 Kahuna_1
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Here is a thought, next time have your devs work with you in creating your system.

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#26 Rikusaki
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What did I tell you? You guys thought I was full of crap. :roll:

The next GT should be developed for OnLive.

Why?

  • PC/Console hardware frozen in time.
  • OnLive's servers updated every six months.
  • Ability to update game engine on the fly.
  • Ability to add content on the fly.
  • One Gran Turismo game - Constantly being updated.
  • No more waiting for physical manufacturing.
  • No more delays.
  • No more "Prologues" or demos.
  • On-demand beta testing.
  • Developers earn twice as much money (vs. retail)

The list goes on..

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#27 Ultra_Combo
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

"The PS3 is arguably the most technologically impressive games console on the market"

that isn't arguable.

racing1750

Err, of course it is. The 360 and PS3 are really close when you compare the hardware. Yes the PS3 has 3 better looking games, but it's just that, three games. The 360 needs proper talented devs who will commit the time to push the system. Developers like T10 use older engines. Sony's dev's use engines built from the ground up, or spend more time beefing up the visuals.

This is true PS3 and 360 are very close interms of power

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#28 pimpog
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Yam should port the game to pc and let modders finish his "vision".

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#29 jedikevin2
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What did I tell you? You guys thought I was full of crap. :roll:

The next GT should be developed for OnLive.

Why?

  • PC/Console hardware frozen in time.
  • OnLive's servers updated every six months.
  • Ability to update game engine on the fly.
  • Ability to add content on the fly.
  • One Gran Turismo game - Constantly being updated.
  • No more waiting for physical manufacturing.
  • No more delays.
  • No more "Prologues" or demos.
  • On-demand beta testing.
  • Developers earn twice as much money (vs. retail)

The list goes on..

Rikusaki

Or just model off Iracing which does all the same as above but even faster. Did you just say PC hardware is frozen in time?

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#30 bobcheeseball
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Meh. It looks fine to me.
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#31 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

"The PS3 is arguably the most technologically impressive games console on the market"

that isn't arguable.

racing1750

Err, of course it is. The 360 and PS3 are really close when you compare the hardware. Yes the PS3 has 3 better looking games, but it's just that, three games. The 360 needs proper talented devs who will commit the time to push the system. Developers like T10 use older engines. Sony's dev's use engines built from the ground up, or spend more time beefing up the visuals.

soon to be 4 :P I think this right here proves it... you whine about talented developers, but here this. The xbox 360 is much easier to code for, hence that should make a perfect port from the ps3 to 360 when making a game right? okay then, how does this explain why final fantasy 13 runs at 576p on the 360 instead of 720p? how? why does castlevania on 360 run with a much worse framerate on the 360 version? how? This isn't arguable buddy.. the fourth game is GT5 btw. then killzone 3, uncharted 3, the last guardian ect. ect.

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#32 Game-fu
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This reminds me of Kojima and MGS4 back in the day...lol

EPaul

First thing I thought of too.

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#33 IceBlazerX
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At least teh 360 can't handle it. :P
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#34 AAllxxjjnn
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Should've put it on 360 then.
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#35 jedikevin2
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Should've put it on 360 then. AAllxxjjnn

Would have ran into similiar problems on 360... Only platform they should have put it on if they feel the ps3 was not up to snuff was the PC.

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#36 skinny_man_69
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Should've put it on 360 then. AAllxxjjnn
I think you mean the Wii
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#37 King-Espi
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]Make a PC game then In b4 ''technology is only a tool''lx_theo
If he makes a PC game, 1% percent of PCs might be capable of running his vision. (Yes, made up statistic, but a realistic estimation expectations of him).

That 1% being able to play the game as he visioned it would be better than the 0% that can't because PS3 is too weak.

I don't see what you were trying to say/prove with that statement. In most cases, 1% is better than 0%. This is one of them.

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#38 hiphops_savior
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Well, look what happened to Duke Nukem Forever, it bankrupt the studio because the lead developer's such a perfectionist. Sometimes, you just have to make do with the hardware you have.
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#39 djsifer01
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He would say the same thing if he had the most powerful hardware in the world. Its still not enough for my vision, this guy is a anal perfectionist.
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#40 Master_ShakeXXX
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What blasphemy. PS3 can do anything. Quick, fire him Sony!

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#41 Kashiwaba
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What did I tell you? You guys thought I was full of crap. :roll:

The next GT should be developed for OnLive.

Why?

  • PC/Console hardware frozen in time.
  • OnLive's servers updated every six months.
  • Ability to update game engine on the fly.
  • Ability to add content on the fly.
  • One Gran Turismo game - Constantly being updated.
  • No more waiting for physical manufacturing.
  • No more delays.
  • No more "Prologues" or demos.
  • On-demand beta testing.
  • Developers earn twice as much money (vs. retail)

The list goes on..

Rikusaki

Maybe when Onlive service is not so laggy as it is now.

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#42 DJ_Lae
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PS3 not enough, or Polyphony too goddamn lazy to code his vision properly? That said, the PS3 does have a ridiculously low amount of memory.
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#43 windsquid9000
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[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

My sentiments exactly. I've always thought consoles were blasphemy to the GT series. At the least, they should be allowed to make PC/PS3 muti-plats :(

RavenLoud
I don't know about that. Imagine how long it would take if he was allowed to make the game on PC.

One could attribute a good chunk of GT5's development time to making their engines from scratch and working within the PS3's constraints. After porting/optimizing the engine for PC hardware, the rest should be smooth sailing... Hopefully :P
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#44 Leo-Magic
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this guy is wasting people's time and money.
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#45 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

"The PS3 is arguably the most technologically impressive games console on the market"

that isn't arguable.

racing1750

Err, of course it is. The 360 and PS3 are really close when you compare the hardware. Yes the PS3 has 3 better looking games, but it's just that, three games. The 360 needs proper talented devs who will commit the time to push the system. Developers like T10 use older engines. Sony's dev's use engines built from the ground up, or spend more time beefing up the visuals.

figures I would get ignored ;)

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#46 joshrocks2245
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It looks good to me. If he doesn't think it looks good enough then why did he even make the game in the first place :| Thats why it's been delayed so much, cause he never thinks it looks good enough.

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#47 Kashiwaba
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this guy is wasting people's time and money.Leo-Magic

Actually GT5 prologue alone covered the cost of GT5 thats if it didn't give them extra profits.

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#48 racing1750
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[QUOTE="racing1750"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

"The PS3 is arguably the most technologically impressive games console on the market"

that isn't arguable.

theuncharted34

Err, of course it is. The 360 and PS3 are really close when you compare the hardware. Yes the PS3 has 3 better looking games, but it's just that, three games. The 360 needs proper talented devs who will commit the time to push the system. Developers like T10 use older engines. Sony's dev's use engines built from the ground up, or spend more time beefing up the visuals.

soon to be 4 :P I think this right here proves it... you whine about talented developers, but here this. The xbox 360 is much easier to code for, hence that should make a perfect port from the ps3 to 360 when making a game right? okay then, how does this explain why final fantasy 13 runs at 576p on the 360 instead of 720p? how? why does castlevania on 360 run with a much worse framerate on the 360 version? how? This isn't arguable buddy.. the fourth game is GT5 btw. then killzone 3, uncharted 3, the last guardian ect. ect.

Ah, you resorted to saying I was whining, not even a mature response. As for multiplats, don't even bother trying to argue. The 360 has more superior multiplats. As for Last guardian, well you have no footage, so yeh. UC3 isn't even official. And KZ3 looks barely any better than the 2nd. GT5 looks brill though.

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#49 Master_ShakeXXX
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He would say the same thing if he had the most powerful hardware in the world. Its still not enough for my vision, this guy is a anal perfectionist.djsifer01

Hey now, lets try and keep this discussion a clean one.

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#50 racing1750
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[QUOTE="racing1750"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

"The PS3 is arguably the most technologically impressive games console on the market"

that isn't arguable.

theuncharted34

Err, of course it is. The 360 and PS3 are really close when you compare the hardware. Yes the PS3 has 3 better looking games, but it's just that, three games. The 360 needs proper talented devs who will commit the time to push the system. Developers like T10 use older engines. Sony's dev's use engines built from the ground up, or spend more time beefing up the visuals.

figures I would get ignored ;)

Sorry. I had to leave my PC to go out to post a parcel :roll: