German federal commissioner "Xbone is a surveillance device"

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#1 campzor
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Peter Schaar, federal commissioner for privacy protection in Germany, is concerned about MS putting a surveillance device under the guise of a toy into living rooms:

SPIEGEL ONLINE: 'Datenschützer: Schaar nennt Xbox One "Überwachungsgerät"'

Link is in German, so read gaf for further clarification

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Already problems in EU for microsoft... lmao..

'merica box strikes again.

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Peter Schaar, federal commissioner for privacy protection in Germany, is concerned about MS putting a surveillance device under the guise of a toy into living rooms:

SPIEGEL ONLINE: 'Datenschützer: Schaar nennt Xbox One "Überwachungsgerät"'

Link is in German, so read gaf for further clarification

Gaf link

Already problems in EU for microsoft... lmao..

'merica box strikes again.

campzor


He shouldn't worry, nobody is gonna buy the damn thing

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1984 be true
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#4 Nengo_Flow
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"Xbox, wats on camera 3?"
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#5 ShoulderOfOrion
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Consoles are toys lol

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#6 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="campzor"]

Peter Schaar, federal commissioner for privacy protection in Germany, is concerned about MS putting a surveillance device under the guise of a toy into living rooms:

SPIEGEL ONLINE: 'Datenschützer: Schaar nennt Xbox One "Überwachungsgerät"'

Link is in German, so read gaf for further clarification

Gaf link

Already problems in EU for microsoft... lmao..

'merica box strikes again.

Davekeeh


He shouldn't worry, nobody is gonna buy the damn thing

Give it a rest dude. You're like the polar opposite of Karateeechop or Loosingends.
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#7 Nike_Air
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Paranoia Domination Continuation.

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"Xbox, wats on camera 3?"Nengo_Flow
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#9 II_Seraphim_II
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Paranoia Domination Continuation.

Nike_Air
come on dude, paranoia or not, the whole concept is a bit concerning. A device that's always listening even when its off, and it happens to be connected to the internet all the time? Say what you will, but I know people who wont even undress if their webcam on their computer is facing them. You say paranoia, and to some degree you are right, but the fact is, there is tons on crap online you see on the news and are like "WTF? how is that even possible!?"...remember google? All im saying is, yes the chances of this being something really bad are slim, but there are still chances. Imagine the headlines, "Microsoft hacked, hackers tap into consumer kinect video feeds" or something on that line. It may be highly unlikely, but the fact that is even slightly possible in a 1 in a billion kinda of way is still disconcerting.
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#10 Rattlesnake_8
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

Paranoia Domination Continuation.

II_Seraphim_II
come on dude, paranoia or not, the whole concept is a bit concerning. A device that's always listening even when its off, and it happens to be connected to the internet all the time? Say what you will, but I know people who wont even undress if their webcam on their computer is facing them. You say paranoia, and to some degree you are right, but the fact is, there is tons on crap online you see on the news and are like "WTF? how is that even possible!?"...remember google? All im saying is, yes the chances of this being something really bad are slim, but there are still chances. Imagine the headlines, "Microsoft hacked, hackers tap into consumer kinect video feeds" or something on that line. It may be highly unlikely, but the fact that is even slightly possible in a 1 in a billion kinda of way is still disconcerting.

Exactly, and webcams can be hacked so can kinect. I'll pass.
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#11 AmazonTreeBoa
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="campzor"]

Peter Schaar, federal commissioner for privacy protection in Germany, is concerned about MS putting a surveillance device under the guise of a toy into living rooms:

SPIEGEL ONLINE: 'Datenschützer: Schaar nennt Xbox One "Überwachungsgerät"'

Link is in German, so read gaf for further clarification

Gaf link

Already problems in EU for microsoft... lmao..

'merica box strikes again.

JohnF111


He shouldn't worry, nobody is gonna buy the damn thing

Give it a rest dude. You're like the polar opposite of Karateeechop or Loosingends.

Yeah even I, a person that thinks the X1 is a joke and will be getting the PS4 , thinks he is pretty pathetic. Morons like him is why I never really care to tell people I have a PS3 in my home.
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#12 RoslindaleOne
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The more bad press for this console the better. A wake up call to MS and for other companies not to follow.
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#13 HAZE-Unit
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PS4 also includes a camera with every console sold :? whats the difference?

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#14 nethernova
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He says he's not worried about the XBox spying on you in your living room because it's nonsense. He criticizes that it stores data about you and your habits without you having any influence on it.
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#15 Michael0134567
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So they're gonna watch me, you know, do stuff?

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#16 AmazonTreeBoa
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PS4 also includes a camera with every console sold :? whats the difference?

HAZE-Unit
It's not always on and doesn't require an internet connection.
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#17 campzor
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PS4 also includes a camera with every console sold :? whats the difference?

HAZE-Unit
u dont need the ps eye...thats the difference.
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#18 silversix_
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all the people it'll catch on fappin ohhh gawd.
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#19 JamDev
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lol, people are acting like this is Orwell's 1984 or something, it's a completely different situation. The Telescreens in 1984 were two way, always on entertainment devices that watched you, listened to you and even measured your heartbeat... wait... Oh shit.
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#20 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

PS4 also includes a camera with every console sold :? whats the difference?

campzor

u dont need the ps eye...thats the difference.

How so? the controller's light bar needs it, I think it's gonna be mandatory as much as the Kinect.

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#21 AmazonTreeBoa
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

PS4 also includes a camera with every console sold :? whats the difference?

campzor
u dont need the ps eye...thats the difference.

This too.
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#22 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

PS4 also includes a camera with every console sold :? whats the difference?

AmazonTreeBoa

u dont need the ps eye...thats the difference.

This too.

Look Im not trying to Justify what MS is doing but we don't know exactly how the new PS4 camera works, the DS4 have a big blue light bar that works wih the camera and the camera will be included with each box so Im assuming it's mandatory to install the camera with the PS4.

Those little details should be cleared within two weeks.

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#23 campzor
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[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

PS4 also includes a camera with every console sold :? whats the difference?

HAZE-Unit

u dont need the ps eye...thats the difference.

How so? the controller's light bar needs it, I think it's gonna be mandatory as much as the Kinect.

quote from gaf
Yoshida said in an interview that the DS4 lightbar doesn't require the PSEye to function... so I'm taking that as the Eye isn't mandatory.
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Well to be fair Germany has a habit of starting wars. They need to be watched.

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#25 casharmy
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It's all coming out now.  Lemmings hoping and praying nobody would find out about these things can't blaim the back lash on cows anymore.

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#26 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="campzor"] u dont need the ps eye...thats the difference.campzor

How so? the controller's light bar needs it, I think it's gonna be mandatory as much as the Kinect.

quote from gaf
Yoshida said in an interview that the DS4 lightbar doesn't require the PSEye to function... so I'm taking that as the Eye isn't mandatory.

Thanks for the info.

The Xbone bad news can't stop getting worse lol.

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#27 Vaasman
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I seem to recall an article saying the MPAA could exploit kinect by shutting off the console if it saw more than seven people in the room watching a movie.

Whether it's true or not, that kind of capability has no business being in any entertainment device. They really are shooting themselves in the foot by making kinect a required feature.

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#28 LJS9502_basic
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The hits just keep on coming.....
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#29 Douevenlift_bro
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[QUOTE="campzor"]

Peter Schaar, federal commissioner for privacy protection in Germany, is concerned about MS putting a surveillance device under the guise of a toy into living rooms:

SPIEGEL ONLINE: 'Datenschützer: Schaar nennt Xbox One "Überwachungsgerät"'

Link is in German, so read gaf for further clarification

Gaf link

 

 

Already problems in EU for microsoft... lmao..

'merica box strikes again.

Davekeeh


He shouldn't worry, nobody is gonna buy the damn thing

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#31 LJS9502_basic
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The time has come to make a choice.  Either you choose to be a supporter of Microsoft and the Xbox One, or you choose to find yourself another console.

Do I make myself clear?

THETRUEDOZAH

Actually the choice is....do I stand up for consumer rights....or do I assume the position.

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#32 Shewgenja
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With an official government inquiry, we will all find out what data the machine does or does not collect.

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#33 MrPraline
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Looks like I'm buying my first Playstation since PSX this year.
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#34 Heil68
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[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

How so? the controller's light bar needs it, I think it's gonna be mandatory as much as the Kinect.

HAZE-Unit

quote from gaf
Yoshida said in an interview that the DS4 lightbar doesn't require the PSEye to function... so I'm taking that as the Eye isn't mandatory.

Thanks for the info.

The Xbone bad news can't stop getting worse lol.

Indeed, lems cant catch a break. Sad times indeed, :(
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#35 deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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I'm still surprised the mainstream media haven't picked up on this. This is a Daily Mail headline in the making.
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#36 deactivated-5fc147aeeb0aa
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Well to be fair Germany has a habit of starting wars. They need to be watched.

timbers_WSU

They started World War II. What else?

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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="campzor"] u dont need the ps eye...thats the difference.HAZE-Unit

This too.

Look Im not trying to Justify what MS is doing but we don't know exactly how the new PS4 camera works, the DS4 have a big blue light bar that works wih the camera and the camera will be included with each box so Im assuming it's mandatory to install the camera with the PS4.

Those little details should be cleared within two weeks.

That's because the controller now has move built into it. That's what the light on the controller is for. If the game isn't move compatible or move isn't required, then neither is the eye for that game.
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[QUOTE="THETRUEDOZAH"]

The time has come to make a choice.  Either you choose to be a supporter of Microsoft and the Xbox One, or you choose to find yourself another console.

Do I make myself clear?

LJS9502_basic

Actually the choice is....do I stand up for consumer rights....or do I assume the position.

I think he's do a bit from the matrix

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#40 CanYouDiglt
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This is one of the reasons I doubt I will get a XBO. It kinda sucks too because I generally enjoy Xbox exclusives more the Playstation ones but there are just some things I do not like about the XBO that have nothing to do with the games themselves. Now I just have to see more about the PS4 before I amke up my mind on it.
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#41 zeroyaoi
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[QUOTE="THETRUEDOZAH"]

The time has come to make a choice.  Either you choose to be a supporter of Microsoft and the Xbox One, or you choose to find yourself another console.

Do I make myself clear?

LJS9502_basic

Actually the choice is....do I stand up for consumer rights....or do I assume the position.

:P

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#42 KiZZo1
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Wow, XB1 is getting some nightmare PR.

I'm not going to buy any console with online DRM - doesn't matter is its PS, Xbox, whatever ... I don't like the DRM on PC (Steam), but I have to have PC regardless, because it has many other uses and a lot more freedom to begin with.

Choking the already restricted users of proprietary platforms should not be encouraged ...

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#43 Demonjoe93
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I read about stuff like this yesterday, and now not only do I not want to buy a One, but I don't even want to be around one of them period.

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#44 Zaibach
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I read about stuff like this yesterday, and now not only do I not want to buy a One, but I don't even want to be around one of them period.

Demonjoe93

 

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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

I read about stuff like this yesterday, and now not only do I not want to buy a One, but I don't even want to be around one of them period.

Zaibach

 

I like my privacy. I think that's a valid enough reason.

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#46 Jynxzor
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PS4 also includes a camera with every console sold :? whats the difference?

HAZE-Unit
As far as we know Sony hasn't told us that the camera will "Be on even when the system is off"
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#47 Zaibach
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

I read about stuff like this yesterday, and now not only do I not want to buy a One, but I don't even want to be around one of them period.

Demonjoe93

 

I like my privacy. I think that's a valid enough reason.

just messing with you, bro :D

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#48 Demonjoe93
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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]  

Zaibach

I like my privacy. I think that's a valid enough reason.

just messing with you, bro :D

That's good. :P

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1984 be truefunsohng

big brother :(

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#50 lamprey263
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they don't have the logistics support to spy on small fraction of consumers, let alone tens of millions everything in the industry gets leaked, I think we'd know if MS was hiring for Kinect spy on peoples' homes complex