Gears got a high score because....

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

gameplay 9
graphics 10
sound 10
value 9
tilt 10

p2rus

casey we know scores are all based on the relative games that are out...look at pdz. would it get aaa today? would gears?

Gears was and is a great game,quality does not decrease in time especially over one year,and if ur belief of gamnes getting score compared to one another,that measn uncharted should have got a 5 cuz its not better then any of the games of its ilk. Folklore would get a 1 as most RPGs are better Warhawk would get a 6,in fact everygame thats the the best of its genre would score poorly.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Frier6000"]

geow reviews were based only on graphics. Sometimes graphics can cover up all other aspects of a game. It clearly didnt have a goty gameplay, goty sound, goty mp, etc.

DuDisNow

yes. we know. it's a 360 game so it has to be overrated.

Sarcasm???

Reading comprehension????

Jk Jk

I dont understand why everyone is hyping Gears 2. I think it will probably be a rehash of the first one and no any new graphics.

The only way I would play it is if its SP was more then 6 hours long.

[QUOTE="MonacoX"][QUOTE="Frier6000"]

geow reviews were based only on graphics. Sometimes graphics can cover up all other aspects of a game. It clearly didnt have a goty gameplay, goty sound, goty mp, etc.

DuDisNow

You clearly havent played the game yourself. It had great sound as well as great gameplay, no other game before it nailed cover-gameplay the way GeOW did.

Well, it presents a test of one's abilities.

GRAW says your wrong. It was the official first next gen game and is better than gears in every single way.ninjaxams

I agree. I actually found Graws graphics more impressive. The hdr was incredible.

More variety with the missions. The helicopter minigun sections are actually fun compared to that boring vehicle mission in Gears.

My only issue with Graw is they take the cover system out of mp.

Gears is good but its the most overrated game. Gamespot scored it higher than HL2 and gave it the same score as GTA 3 which is insane. A game with no innovation and repetitive gameplay doesnt deserve a 9+ score.

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"]GRAW says your wrong. It was the official first next gen game and is better than gears in every single way.Cranler

I agree. I actually found Graws graphics more impressive. The hdr was incredible.

More variety with the missions. The helicopter minigun sections are actually fun compared to that boring vehicle mission in Gears.

My only issue with Graw is they take the cover system out of mp.

Gears is good but its the most overrated game. Gamespot scored it higher than HL2 and gave it the same score as GTA 3 which is insane. A game with no innovation and repetitive gameplay doesnt deserve a 9+ score.

I always thought GTA3 was very overrated.

[QUOTE="warmaster670"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

[QUOTE="-DarthMaul-"]I love this game the cover system was amazing in my opinion, and splitting enemies in this game provide an awesome experience.my-big-pose

It's so good other games copy it. *cough Uncharted *

like it was the first to use that system, get over yourself, tehre were multiple games that came out before GeoW that used that same system.

and it was called killswitch.

Gears cover system and combat feel is almost a carbon copy of Manhunt which came out around the same time as Killswitch.

first of all geow2 doesnt even have room for improvement to beging with, how r they going to even make the game twice as long and twice as better when the first one nearly filled up the 12 year old dvd format.

[QUOTE="Frier6000"]

geow reviews were based only on graphics. Sometimes graphics can cover up all other aspects of a game. It clearly didnt have a goty gameplay, goty sound, goty mp, etc.

MonacoX

You clearly havent played the game yourself. It had great sound as well as great gameplay, no other game before it nailed cover-gameplay the way GeOW did.

Exactly, most bashers haven't played it, I think it had excellent sound, geez I'm hearing the soundtrack right now >_>

first of all geow2 doesnt even have room for improvement to beging with, how r they going to even make the game twice as long and twice as better when the first one nearly filled up the 12 year old dvd format.

Frier6000

Where did you read that the first one filled up the entire DVD? Please, provide a link validating statements like these the next time you make them.

[QUOTE="my-big-pose"][QUOTE="warmaster670"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

[QUOTE="-DarthMaul-"]I love this game the cover system was amazing in my opinion, and splitting enemies in this game provide an awesome experience.Cranler

It's so good other games copy it. *cough Uncharted *

like it was the first to use that system, get over yourself, tehre were multiple games that came out before GeoW that used that same system.

and it was called killswitch.

Gears cover system and combat feel is almost a carbon copy of Manhunt which came out around the same time as Killswitch.

Come on! The cover system in Manhunt was a joke, and I also played Kill.switch, that game was innovative but it was also a mess. So far the game with the most polished cover system is GeoW, kudos to that.

[QUOTE="Frier6000"]

first of all geow2 doesnt even have room for improvement to beging with, how r they going to even make the game twice as long and twice as better when the first one nearly filled up the 12 year old dvd format.

MonacoX

Where did you read that the first one filled up the entire DVD? Please, provide a link validating statements like these the next time you make them.

I said nearly, dont turn things around now due to fraustration.

[QUOTE="MonacoX"][QUOTE="Frier6000"]

first of all geow2 doesnt even have room for improvement to beging with, how r they going to even make the game twice as long and twice as better when the first one nearly filled up the 12 year old dvd format.

Frier6000

Where did you read that the first one filled up the entire DVD? Please, provide a link validating statements like these the next time you make them.

I said nearly, dont turn things around now due to fraustration.

Um no it just about fills up one layer,MS recently released new compression tools so its a moot point either way

[QUOTE="MonacoX"][QUOTE="Frier6000"]

first of all geow2 doesnt even have room for improvement to beging with, how r they going to even make the game twice as long and twice as better when the first one nearly filled up the 12 year old dvd format.

Frier6000

Where did you read that the first one filled up the entire DVD? Please, provide a link validating statements like these the next time you make them.

I said nearly, dont turn things around now due to fraustration.

Who is frustrated? At least back up your claim by providing a link proving what you say is correct.

It got most of its praise from its graphics. Fact.Cedmln

Were not talking about Gran Turismo here.

[QUOTE="Frier6000"][QUOTE="MonacoX"][QUOTE="Frier6000"]

first of all geow2 doesnt even have room for improvement to beging with, how r they going to even make the game twice as long and twice as better when the first one nearly filled up the 12 year old dvd format.

MonacoX

Where did you read that the first one filled up the entire DVD? Please, provide a link validating statements like these the next time you make them.

I said nearly, dont turn things around now due to fraustration.

Who is frustrated? At least back up your claim by providing a link proving what you say is correct.

stsick the game in ur DVD drive and see,its around 9GB

Its been done with the PS3 version of UT3 and that took up 8GB,and epic said they couldt fit the maps on the xbox BS

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]It got most of its praise from its graphics. Fact.JLF1

Were not talking about Gran Turismo here.

Sad,but very true,i dont even consider GT a racing sim anymore,its like NFS prostreet an arcade attemp at a sim,Forza is more accurtae in everyway,but hey GT looks nice

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]It got most of its praise from its graphics. Fact.JLF1

Were not talking about Gran Turismo here.

now ur comparing a godly sim with real licensed cars to some made up action figures in geow, man, i wont say it.

[QUOTE="MonacoX"][QUOTE="Frier6000"][QUOTE="MonacoX"][QUOTE="Frier6000"]

first of all geow2 doesnt even have room for improvement to beging with, how r they going to even make the game twice as long and twice as better when the first one nearly filled up the 12 year old dvd format.

ukillwegrill

Where did you read that the first one filled up the entire DVD? Please, provide a link validating statements like these the next time you make them.

I said nearly, dont turn things around now due to fraustration.

Who is frustrated? At least back up your claim by providing a link proving what you say is correct.

stsick the game in ur DVD drive and see,its around 9GB

Its been done with the PS3 version of UT3 and that took up 8GB,and epic said they couldt fit the maps on the xbox BS

if geow was on ps3, it would of been ten times better and more complete. Look what just happened with mass effect on pc.

[QUOTE="JLF1"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]It got most of its praise from its graphics. Fact.Frier6000

Were not talking about Gran Turismo here.

now ur comparing a godly sim with real licensed cars to some made up action figures in geow, man, i wont say it.

So what innovation has there been between GT3 and GT4 or GT5 besides graphics?

[QUOTE="Frier6000"][QUOTE="JLF1"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]It got most of its praise from its graphics. Fact.JLF1

Were not talking about Gran Turismo here.

now ur comparing a godly sim with real licensed cars to some made up action figures in geow, man, i wont say it.

So what innovation has there been between GT3 and GT4 or GT5 besides graphics?

dude, they r racing games, just stop, thats like saying forza2 should of gotten a 3 cuz the tires are still round, i wanted em square.

because its an amazing game and still is. It would get the exact same rating if it was released today. Its an absolutely amazing game.

it was one of the first true next gen game when it 1st came out. and the 360 was the console who started developing nxt gen games 1st.

and remember, no one back then has ever seen great grphx like gears ever b4 the 360 came out so when gears came out it just shocked and mind blown everyone with its pretty grphx and its "next gen gameplay" (i guess u can say that).

so its scores could easily be based on how defying it was back then in gaming history since it was huge jump from a game like ff12 where back then had one of the most awesome grphx(IMO) to a game like gears with even better grphx.

im starting to think that ppl are starting to 4get thats its only been 2 years since we came into this gen.....its like everyone 4got that grhpx back in the days were in our current view is pretty lame. but back then when there was no game as pretty as crysis, games like god of war 1 or 2 were mind blowing in terms of grphx and gameplay.

so agree or disagree im just making a statement based on wat i think is right.

my-big-pose

i wrote pretty much the same thing right after gears of war came out, i mean right after. i said to all the lemmins sure gears looks good now but in a year or 2 that will be standard graphics for this gen of gaming. and i got flamed and banned for it. only are people admitting its high score was because it looked so pretty, when i was saying this same stuff the day after release.

Gears scored high becuz of its great graphics,gameplay and fantastic online.I mean theres no other game out as good as Gears,i mean the only thing so far this gen that can compare to Gears is MGS4.And on top of that we still have Gears 2 to look forward to later this year which will be alot better than the first one and im sure that one will score high too.I c'mon, can you do brutal stuff like this in other games?

1) What is graphx?

2) I agree with the TC.......

3) Although the TC had some points, GOW deserves much more praise than that. It got high scores, but getting GOTY is another level. To get GOTY, a game has to inovate and take a diffrent approach to a proven formla, while staying true to its roots and it should have a perfect blend of graphics, gameplay and execution of its story and multiplayer(which was excellent). Gears had the right formula, and its innovation is gnot only with graphics, but it changed the Third person shooters, following in the footsteps of RE4, it added a much needed cover system and running while shooting mechanic and these changes will affect future TPS titles(like the upcoming RE5). Its execution was perfect and it changed the way TPS games should be played and tweaked the layout just right, just like previous GOTY title dis, for example: Half-life 2(physics), The grim fanadego(story telling) and Diablo(ation role-playing). It deserved GOTY(unlike Halo).

Also Halo only perfected FPS controls for console and showed us how a killer launch app should be, it didn't innovate anything else and took the path set by its predecesos(goldeneye and turok 2) to a whole diffrent level of action and storytelling,

first of all geow2 doesnt even have room for improvement to beging with, how r they going to even make the game twice as long and twice as better when the first one nearly filled up the 12 year old dvd format.

Frier6000

here's a crazy idea how about they use...... 2 disks

[QUOTE="MonacoX"][QUOTE="Frier6000"][QUOTE="MonacoX"][QUOTE="Frier6000"]

first of all geow2 doesnt even have room for improvement to beging with, how r they going to even make the game twice as long and twice as better when the first one nearly filled up the 12 year old dvd format.

ukillwegrill

Where did you read that the first one filled up the entire DVD? Please, provide a link validating statements like these the next time you make them.

I said nearly, dont turn things around now due to fraustration.

Who is frustrated? At least back up your claim by providing a link proving what you say is correct.

stsick the game in ur DVD drive and see,its around 9GB

Its been done with the PS3 version of UT3 and that took up 8GB,and epic said they couldt fit the maps on the xbox BS

How is that possible when a dual layer dvd is about 8,7GB. I just put in gears in my PC and it said 7,2GB. Thats means they have 1,5GB left to do whatever they want to with. And with better compression they might get even more.

It was a well polished and well executed game...

I deserved AAA, but 9.5 was a bit much.

9.0 would have been perfect

Gears of War and Crysis shared similar flaws, only Crysis SP kicked Gears out of the park.

Yet they both scored 9.5 + ... lesson to everyone Graphics do majorly effect scores, because neither deserved more than 9.0.

Gears of War and Crysis shared similar flaws, only Crysis SP kicked Gears out of the park.

Yet they both scored 9.5 + ... lesson to everyone Graphics do majorly effect scores, because neither deserved more than 9.0.

PC360Wii

Of a 9.5 Crysis is much more deserving - also counting the sandbox editor.

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]

Gears of War and Crysis shared similar flaws, only Crysis SP kicked Gears out of the park.

Yet they both scored 9.5 + ... lesson to everyone Graphics do majorly effect scores, because neither deserved more than 9.0.

skrat_01

Of a 9.5 Crysis is much more deserving - also counting the sandbox editor.

yeah, counting the sandbox editor it's most definitely worth the score.

I don't think Gears deserved its high score. All it really has are graphics and a good cover system. It had a weak story, repetitive and laggy online, 2-dimensional characters and those annoying little crawly Locust which run toward you and annoy the hell out of you.

my god, use correct english. :P

Also Gears got it score because of its awesome game engine and work that went into the game.

It utalises low and high polygon meshes on the fly which hardly any game engines do (even the next gen ones). Yes this does come at a cost but it gives some amazing textures and shadowing when the high mesh is baked into the lower mesh.

It got its score on technical levels as well as solid gameplay.

gears's cover system was fairly innovative at the time but now ith vegas, uncharted, and other games pulling it off i can see gears 2 not living up to the first one.Ragashahs