GDC 08: Microsoft To Buy Out Epic, Gamepro Says

[QUOTE="numba1234"][QUOTE="PS3Compass"]But what will happen to the Unreal Engine then? Will M$ have exclusive use of it? :question:BreakingPoint8

It's good for making games look pretty, but it has a hefty cost on performance in most cases.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="inertk"]

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]I think this is the worst news I've read in a long time. Epic has always been great to the gaming community. They've always been on the gamers side and have long supported big communities, made development tools available and of course supported MODS. You can kiss all that good bye if MS buys them.PS3Compass

Yeah I forgot about that side of it all, MS LOVES to charge for **** we should get for free.

Luckily I'm not even touching DLC on any platform.

It's not just MS, though. 2 Resistance maps are like $8...

Warhawk has expensive DLC, also.

Yeah, Motorstorm had overpriced DLC also. Two bucks for an ONE extra car. :evil:

Exactly. They both **** their fans over. :( I don't mind paying for DLC if it's something worth buying, like an expansion pack.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="inertk"]

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]I think this is the worst news I've read in a long time. Epic has always been great to the gaming community. They've always been on the gamers side and have long supported big communities, made development tools available and of course supported MODS. You can kiss all that good bye if MS buys them.inertk

Yeah I forgot about that side of it all, MS LOVES to charge for **** we should get for free.

Luckily I'm not even touching DLC on any platform.

It's not just MS, though. 2 Resistance maps are like $8...

Warhawk has expensive DLC, also.

Where does MS or Epic fit into that? Wait, didn't Epic have a problem with MS making them charge for extra content for Gears? I can't recall correctly.

And LOL if you think Sony is even in the same realm as Downloadable content-bull as MS.

Actually, Resistance and Warhawk maps were more expensive than Halo and Gears maps, so Sony's even worse.

[QUOTE="numba1234"][QUOTE="PS3Compass"]But what will happen to the Unreal Engine then? Will M$ have exclusive use of it? :question:MushroomRevenge

[QUOTE="inertk"]

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]I think this is the worst news I've read in a long time. Epic has always been great to the gaming community. They've always been on the gamers side and have long supported big communities, made development tools available and of course supported MODS. You can kiss all that good bye if MS buys them.BioShockOwnz

Yeah I forgot about that side of it all, MS LOVES to charge for **** we should get for free.

Luckily I'm not even touching DLC on any platform.

It's not just MS, though. 2 Resistance maps are like $8...

Warhawk has expensive DLC, also.

You are trying to spin it into a Playstation vs Xbox argument.

We are talking about Epic they did Unreal Tournament 3. They are not the people behind Resistance and Warhawk. And anything extra on PS3 for Unreal Tournament 3 is Free thru MOD support. And it's the reason you never saw Unreal Tournament 3 on X360 because Microsoft will not allow MODs.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="inertk"]

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]I think this is the worst news I've read in a long time. Epic has always been great to the gaming community. They've always been on the gamers side and have long supported big communities, made development tools available and of course supported MODS. You can kiss all that good bye if MS buys them.inertk

Yeah I forgot about that side of it all, MS LOVES to charge for **** we should get for free.

Luckily I'm not even touching DLC on any platform.

It's not just MS, though. 2 Resistance maps are like $8...

Warhawk has expensive DLC, also.

Where does MS or Epic fit into that? Wait, didn't Epic have a problem with MS making them charge for extra content for Gears? I can't recall correctly.

And LOL if you think Sony is even in the same realm as Downloadable content-bull as MS.

PS3 is going that way, and you are joking yourself if you don't think that. Sony wants their store to be just like MS anyways. Plus, if you have a PC, you shouldn't have any problem. I doubt MS will change anything pertaining to PC versions anyway, and that's where all the mods are.

[QUOTE="MushroomRevenge"][QUOTE="numba1234"][QUOTE="PS3Compass"]But what will happen to the Unreal Engine then? Will M$ have exclusive use of it? :question:numba1234

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="inertk"]

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]I think this is the worst news I've read in a long time. Epic has always been great to the gaming community. They've always been on the gamers side and have long supported big communities, made development tools available and of course supported MODS. You can kiss all that good bye if MS buys them.EmperorSupreme

Yeah I forgot about that side of it all, MS LOVES to charge for **** we should get for free.

Luckily I'm not even touching DLC on any platform.

It's not just MS, though. 2 Resistance maps are like $8...

Warhawk has expensive DLC, also.

You are trying to spin it into a Playstation vs Xbox argument.

We are talking about Epic they did Unreal Tournament 3. They are not the people behind Resistance and Warhawk. And anything extra on PS3 for Unreal Tournament 3 is Free thru MOD support. And it's the reason you never saw Unreal Tournament 3 on X360 because Microsoft will not allow MODs.

PS3 has VERY few mods. The best version is on PC anyways. Sony is also scared of some of the mods crashing during the gameplay due to memory overload.

[QUOTE="numba1234"][QUOTE="MushroomRevenge"][QUOTE="numba1234"][QUOTE="PS3Compass"]But what will happen to the Unreal Engine then? Will M$ have exclusive use of it? :question:BreakingPoint8

[QUOTE="BreakingPoint8"][QUOTE="JayPee89"]

They could've got Bioware/Pandemic for cheaper. :|

dkhw

All they could have bought both...that would have made much more sense.

[QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="inertk"]

dkhw

Where does MS or Epic fit into that? Wait, didn't Epic have a problem with MS making them charge for extra content for Gears? I can't recall correctly.

And LOL if you think Sony is even in the same realm as Downloadable content-bull as MS.

PS3 is going that way, and you are joking yourself if you don't think that. Sony wants their store to be just like MS anyways. Plus, if you have a PC, you shouldn't have any problem. I doubt MS will change anything pertaining to PC versions anyway, and that's where all the mods are.

I agree microtransactions are what MS and Sony both want, but at least Sony didn't stop a game from coming to the system over it.

Gears = the new Halo

Epic = the new Bungie

another awesome combonation all over again.

[QUOTE="dkhw"][QUOTE="BreakingPoint8"][QUOTE="JayPee89"]

They could've got Bioware/Pandemic for cheaper. :|

SkullboyX

All they could have bought both...that would have made much more sense.

[QUOTE="dkhw"][QUOTE="BreakingPoint8"][QUOTE="JayPee89"]

They could've got Bioware/Pandemic for cheaper. :|

SkullboyX

All they could have bought both...that would have made much more sense.

I know that. i am just saying that buying to devs that supported Xbox franchise the most and produced some of the best Xbox and 360 games should haven't been bought out even before EA had a chance to.

[QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="inertk"]

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]I think this is the worst news I've read in a long time. Epic has always been great to the gaming community. They've always been on the gamers side and have long supported big communities, made development tools available and of course supported MODS. You can kiss all that good bye if MS buys them.BioShockOwnz

Yeah I forgot about that side of it all, MS LOVES to charge for **** we should get for free.

Luckily I'm not even touching DLC on any platform.

It's not just MS, though. 2 Resistance maps are like $8...

Warhawk has expensive DLC, also.

Where does MS or Epic fit into that? Wait, didn't Epic have a problem with MS making them charge for extra content for Gears? I can't recall correctly.

And LOL if you think Sony is even in the same realm as Downloadable content-bull as MS.

Actually, Resistance and Warhawk maps were more expensive than Halo and Gears maps, so Sony's even worse.

Except MS charges for more things than Sony, especially silly things. Sony charged more for the map packs, but MS charges for so much more it's not even funny. Then you've got the closed nature of XBL meaning you can't even add your own things like backgrounds. Suppose higher map pack prices = free online?

How much is 800 gamerpoints in actual currency btw?

Besides, what I was talking about was if this ends up being true then MS will be able to charge as much as they damn well please since they'll have control on what Epic delivers. If it's not on another platform for free Microsoft can make us all buy it. Then there's restricted support.

If it does end up being true.

Edit: I will say that for most of the content on high profile games like Gears or Halo, MS will eventually make that stuff free. Like map packs. I'm unsure as to whether or not Sony does them so I'll give them the old thumbs up for that. (y)

bad move for MS if they buy epic , MS is getting titles from them now ..no need to buy em out lol

Buy square-enix or EA

bad move for MS if they buy epic , MS is getting titles from them now ..no need to buy em out lol

Buy square-enix or EA

Kakarot00769

bad move for MS if they buy epic , MS is getting titles from them now ..no need to buy em out lol

Buy square-enix or EA

Kakarot00769

By the way that things go, I somewhat think that a Japanese company has to ask permission from their government before the can sell themselves to a foreign corperation.

bad move for MS if they buy epic , MS is getting titles from them now ..no need to buy em out lol

Buy square-enix or EA

Kakarot00769

I don't see why is a bad move. I mean Gears of War 3 is not exclusive only 1 and 2 is at the moment. Plus who knows what projects Epic is already working on besides Gears and UT etc... They might know about some of these projects and see fit in the grand picture to just buy them out. If this is even true or if it will happen who knows

A win win situation for M$. Not only they'll get big bucks from exclusives they'll get big bucks for the other multiplat games that uses the engine. Jump in.

[QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

bad move for MS if they buy epic , MS is getting titles from them now ..no need to buy em out lol

Buy square-enix or EA

SkullboyX

By the way that things go, I somewhat think that a Japanese company has to ask permission from their government before the can sell themselves to a foreign corperation.

Plus, if SE was available for purchase, i think Sony would have bought it out long time ago. Also, EA is multi-billion dollar dev that will take crazy money to buy, something M$ or Sony not likely to pay up. Also, I don't think EA will sell themselves anytime soon.

A win win situation for M$. Not only they'll get big bucks from exclusives they'll get big bucks for the other multiplat games that uses the engine. Jump in.

ReverseCycology

So buying Epic would mean buying their engine too?

I dont see this happening anyway... just another rumour

[QUOTE="numba1234"][QUOTE="PS3Compass"]But what will happen to the Unreal Engine then? Will M$ have exclusive use of it? :question:BreakingPoint8

It's good for making games look pretty, but it has a hefty cost on performance in most cases.

There's over 150 developers that license the engine. I don't think this will change anything on the Engine part. Crytech is owned by EA and they still license out the Cry engine to third party developers.

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

A win win situation for M$. Not only they'll get big bucks from exclusives they'll get big bucks for the other multiplat games that uses the engine. Jump in.

kcpp2b

So buying Epic would mean buying their engine too?

I dont see this happening anyway... just another rumour

[QUOTE="kcpp2b"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

A win win situation for M$. Not only they'll get big bucks from exclusives they'll get big bucks for the other multiplat games that uses the engine. Jump in.

E M I N 3 M

So buying Epic would mean buying their engine too?

I dont see this happening anyway... just another rumour

Them doing a BR add on is not a big deal. Do you realize how long Sony has been making Sony PC's with Windows built into them? I'm working on a Sony Vaio right now that came with Windows, just business..

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"]I honestly see this happening after what EPIC said...stika

lol i love your sig

didnt you had a sig with a can of tune and a loaf of bread saying they wanted to make sandwiches?

He always has the best sigs XD

[QUOTE="BreakingPoint8"]

[QUOTE="numba1234"][QUOTE="PS3Compass"]But what will happen to the Unreal Engine then? Will M$ have exclusive use of it? :question:-Renegade

It's good for making games look pretty, but it has a hefty cost on performance in most cases.

There's over 150 developers that license the engine. I don't think this will change anything on the Engine part. Crytech is owned by EA and they still license out the Cry engine to third party developers.

>_> Crytek is not owned by EA.

I don't see them doing this in the middle of Epic's lawsuit.

I don't see them doing this in the middle of Epic's lawsuit.

II-FBIsniper-II

good for them?

Epic is crap anyways...

Hmm... Interesting. I don't think it will happen though.

It would be a good move for MS to do this. I already like playing Gears with the 360 controller anyways.

Well MS already bought Gears...and UT3 did not break any records, so for now MS is buying out Gears forever and the engine itself...probably a new game in 09?Kahuna_1

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]Well MS already bought Gears...and UT3 did not break any records, so for now MS is buying out Gears forever and the engine itself...probably a new game in 09?BreakingPoint8

Yeah that is why I said if they buy Epic, they buy Gears forever.

and people say money dosent make the man pfft :lol:

its official gears of war 2 3 and 4 exclusive to pc and xbox360

even if true....how many good games has Epic actually pushed out the door? Not many if I recall...Gears of War isnt enough to make this an OMG news story IMO. UT games will still come to the PC etc

and people say money dosent make the man pfft :lol:

its official gears of war 2 3 and 4 exclusive to pc and xbox360

SaintsRowSam

Bingo, on Microsoft platforms, 360 and Gaming For Windows.

Gamepro's top 6 predictions have zero info on Epic.

http://www.gamepro.com/gamepro/domestic/games/features/162348.shtml

I honestly see this happening after what EPIC said...club-sandwich

What exactly did they say? I seemed to have missed it... :S

Is Epic really worth a billion dollars? They have one big console hit in large part do to advertising and no competition and one sales flop whilethe Championship games never becoming really big. I have to say if Microsoft did not own the desktop OS monopoly than they would be considered a very poor performing company, they lost in the mp3 market, the search/advertising market, god knows when their console division will make them all the billions they lost back. Not only that but they completly failed to achieve the goals that they set when they entered the market, they are insignificant in online movie sales and it looks like Sony won with BluRay. Even their latest OS product is just a replacement for their old OS, not a significant improvment.Nikalai_88

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Perfect. Exactly what MS needs.

But why did they have to get rid of bungie???

the loss of bungie isnt a big deal as it seems. Bungie being able to make another hit as big as Halo is a long shot. MS knew this so they cut Bungie free. Bungie has done wonders to get MS where they are now, if Not for Halo back in 2001 the 360 might not even be here.

But imo MS does need to do something, seems like they are getting to comfortable and they are not worried about getting big deals or making big moves. Kinda like Sony did and now they are in 3rd place. 360 is already getting Gears 2, i dont see how buying Epic would help MS in the console race. it might help thier pocket via the Unreal Engine. but ps3 or wii owners wont care if 360 gets UT exclusive. MS needs to start making some moves with XBL and Big Games. maybe even another price cut.