Games have become much better..

I'm primarily talking about games that were developed in this gen. The games nowdays offer better cinematic experience compared to games back then. Cutscenes are more prevalent and the games have become somewhat accessible to a wider audience. L.A. Noire is one of the best games that adapted motionsense technology which has well-done facial animation and I consider it one of the best games of all time. We no longer have boring RPG games with wall of text to read (Planescape Torment) instead we have RPG games like Mass Effect 2 which is more action-packed. We also have FPS games like Call of Duty which is much better than the boring and incomplete Half-Life 2 franchise and obviously COD has a better story and larger online community.Ultimately as technlogy progressed, do you think games have become better in terms of quality? I sure think so.

Obviously, yes.

But I feel there are fewer quality games this gen then there is in the previous gen overall.

i really really really hope half of what's in the OP is a joke

Games have changed. Some things have improved, other things have gotten worse. I don't see, however, any way they've gotten better in that sense.

Diablo 2 > 3

WarCraft 3 > StarCraft 2

Games aren't getting better...

Yes they have improved! I will NEVER get tired of fighting evil organisation nr 6453# who have stolen a nuclear warhead # 8574, only to find out that my commanding officer stabs me in the back.

Yes they have improved! I will NEVER get tired of fighting evil organisation nr 6453# who have stolen a nuclear warhead # 8574, only to find out that my commanding officer stabs me in the back.

DoomZaW

There are great games today with the current tech just like there were great games back in the days with the current tech.

I'm primarily talking about games that were developed in this gen. The games nowdays offer better cinematic experience compared to games back then. Cutscenes are more prevalent and the games have become somewhat accessible to a wider audience. L.A. Noire is one of the best games that adapted motionsense technology which has well-done facial animation and I consider it one of the best games of all time. We no longer have boring RPG games with wall of text to read (Planescape Torment) instead we have RPG games like Mass Effect 2 which is more action-packed. We also have FPS games like Call of Duty which is much better than the boring and incomplete Half-Life 2 franchise and obviously COD has a better story and larger online community.Ultimately as technlogy progressed, do you think games have become better in terms of quality? I sure think so.

NerubianWeaver

I think saying that cut scenes being more prevailant is the wrong approach to this subject. Just passively watching cut scenes doesn't do much for the gameplay experience. BUT, games that implement immersive cinematic interaction that always involves the player, like in Mass Effect, Heavy Rain, Alan Wake, Bioshock, among others, makes for a more rewarding and engaging experience where the evolution of technology and game design has benefited the industry.

I would also agree cinematic interaction also benefits RPGs to really pull the player into the world in a way that reading text can't.

But COD better than HalfLife 2 in story and single player gameplay??? No. No. No. Just NO!

graphics improved but the gameplay has not , im sorry i mark this as the worst gen , all people wanna do is brag about online and graphics what happened to wii and the fun gameplay -like zombies ate my neighbors- goldeneye007 or somthing like that , seriously

if they can mix all of that together then id agree but right now its looking more like a cash cow market then one that i remember

This generation spawned a lot of games trying to hard to be Call of Duty.

This gen is boring. I could call out probably 20+ games that are almost just like COD. I've played maybe 10-15 games this gen that I found unique, original, etc. out of over what....200?

This is why I bought a PS1

This gen is boring. I could call out probably 20+ games that are almost just like COD.

321orez

This is why I asked earlier here about going back to when first person shooters consisted of maze-like environments filled with monsters, a la Doom.

This gen is boring. I could call out probably 20+ games that are almost just like COD. I've played maybe 10-15 games this gen that I found unique, original, etc. out of over what....200?

This is why I bought a PS1

321orez

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This gen is boring. I could call out probably 20+ games that are almost just like COD. I've played maybe 10-15 games this gen that I found unique, original, etc. out of over what....200?

This is why I bought a PS1

locopatho

Games have changed. Some things have improved, other things have gotten worse. I don't see, however, any way they've gotten better in that sense.

calvinsora

This is pretty much how I feel.

I miss when RPG's were the only games with generic stories :(.

Games are a mixed bag, doing things better and worse than before.

Graphics and gameplay has improved. Stories within games are about the same. Game complexity has gone down but, that is due to companies wanting to get a wider audience. So it will depend on what you like most. If the main thing you play games for is the graphics and gameplay then you will probably feel these games are the best yet. If you want more complexity then you will probably think this gen is the worst.

They have better technology... But in terms of fun, only a few games come close to some of my favorites on previous consoles.

Ah yes, the Tc finds Planescape boring because she/he can't bother to read. That's the problem with this generation: the entire lack of an attention space, the disconnect between game and movie is becoming blurred and that's becoming a problem. I don't pay 60 dollars to watch a movie, games should be interactive first, and cinematics should be near the bottom of importance.

Sales are not indictive of quality, and when the only thing you have avialable is the next generic military shooter or cover shooter, and your main audience isn't so well informed, of course they are gonna think that this is the best. It's denying the forebearers due to ignorance rather than experience. I preffered it when Pcs and consoles were a seperate species instead of trying to emulate each other. It's depressing how adhd ridden this generation is. A pure game is actually knocked for being consistant!(Alice) It's like it's a bad thing for a platformer to be a platformer, for an rpg to actually be an rpg. The only thing that's actually been pretty good is fighting games, and they've stayed pretty consistant in quality. (The new mortal kombat is probably the best in the series) Certain titles shine not due to gameplay but due to art direction(Bioshock), but just imagine if the gameplay matched the good art direction? If level design was actually decent instead of just a linear path.

I liked Mass effect 2. It had terrible level design though, and it's story is what made the game bareable. At least planescape had some diverging paths. THey are not comparable, because Mass effect 2 is not really an rpg.(Rather it's a shooter with a dialogue tree and some stats, which still just makes a shooter, only a little more freeform, Dialogue trees and stats have been used in adventure games before, and those games were still considered adventure titles)

Yeah, I agree with you TC.

'Complexity' and 'depth' and all those other butthurt, elitist, prick-type phrases are just excuses they give because they want to play CoD but can't because they aren't good enough at multiplayer games, and are too ignorant to appreciate modern visuals, which are amazing, and much more satisfying than gameplay, which is starting to seem naff, imo.

Just the other day, in fact, I was playing some X-COM, when I thought to myself "lol tactics" and turned that **** off, and went and put on some headphones and listened to the sounds of industrial machinery interlaced with the noise of hippopotami ****ing whilst watching one of those flashing gifs that cause epileptic seizures (I left my copy of Black Ops at a friend's house), and it was rad as hell, bro.

TC has to be sarcastic...

That whole post is just full of sarcastic comments. lol

And yeah, I agree on some fronts, however, we have made some good leaps this gen, with the Stalker series, The Witcher series, Crysis(first one), Battlefield(Bad Company 2 and soon to be BF3), etc.

not really.

Way too much focus on cinematic style gameplay and sometimes QTE which are boring.Games have become reliant on cinematics to be good sometimes :(

Uhm No.

On the thread title though:
The OOT 'remake' made me feel otherwise. There are definitely improvements but developers are also meandering from the path. The games that raise the bar don't get the attention. The games where they limit our rights, freedom and choice are bestsellers.
Guild Wars 2 will probably raise the bar for MMO gameplay. I hope that it will be successful.

quite the sweeping statement..

Thats why halo is still more fun than halo reach? super mario 64 is more addictive than sm galaxy? counter strike has a ten year old community? i highly doubt anyone will be playing black ops 10 years from now. dvalo9

Not really.

Super Mario 64 is inferior to Galaxy in almost every way.

Diablo 2 > 3

trollop_scat

Damn, 3 is out? I have to keep on top of the news better...

TC's joking people. A little too obvious.

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Diablo 2 > 3

Rekunta

Damn, 3 is out? I have to keep on top of the news better...

TC's joking people. A little too obvious.

Games are so much better than they used to be in every way. You can order a modern game from the comfort of your own home. They look feel and play like a cinematic experience. A videogame character is so much more powerful than it used to feel. The music and sound effects are on par with the movies. The animations and crispness of the controls are excellent and I rarely run into glitches. More people work on a game these days than before. Games can tell a story now and be ancillary to a fictional universe.

The game pad is no longer just a rectangle it conforms to your hands. Things aren't arcane anymore... the story is good enough you want to find out what will happen next where as before if you died you just gave up. The character develops and you feel like you played a part in that from little things like being able to afford the suits in GTA IV. You feel achievement more in games with all of the stat tracking games do now. Now there are so many checkpoints that it's unusual to be stuck in the same part for very long.

This gen has more or less been last gen with better graphics and less inspiration.

I'm amazed to see so many peole saying that this gen lacks imagination :?

I would also agree cinematic interaction also benefits RPGs to really pull the player into the world in a way that reading text can't.

AdobeArtist

Ehhh...kind of.

The problem with "cinematic interaction" in CRPGs is that it stifles the player of potential.

Take Dragon Age II. Because every character just HAD to be voiced uniquely, the player's level of immersion suffered because the devs cut back on the amount of world-building content as a result.

Maybe I'm just traditional, but in a CRPG I'd actually prefer text and more options, to voices and less options.

I agree 100%. Games nowadays are becoming more accessible to people who never got into gaming in the past, which is a great thing. Also, gaming is getting close to film, which is currently my favorite form of entertainment. Hopefully one day I'll get chills down my spine or have my eyes pop with excitement... while playing a game. Currently I'm only emotionally & physically moved by film.

I'm amazed to see so many peole saying that this gen lacks imagination :?

madsnakehhh

Why? It really does.

I'm sorry but, I honestly can't tell if TC is serious. I just can't. :?