Game Informer's Top 100 RPGs (Oh, wow...)

Destiny being in the list of best rpg is just stupid, they might as well call COD as an rpg now.

That aside, I don't get why people laugh at someone's personal opinion/taste ?

By that criteria, visual novels and adventure games would be RPGs.

And the NES FF games aren't tactical, since the combat isn't positional.

Persona 3, 4 and 5 is in so it's not too bad. Can't wrap my mind around Pokémon RB being ahead of GS though.

Hard to argue a list which contains so many great/epic games and try to sort them from 1 to 100.

I don't agree with Skyrim, but I am not a big fan of Bethesda RPG:s though.

Yep to the first part. If I can choose my own way through the story, that's playing a role to me.

No to the second. So what? Who says tactics has to have movement? Choosing what orders to pick, what spells, what armour, what weapons, what classes, that's all tactics.

Indeed.

Even worse by that kind of logic is that Choices and Consequences began with Adventure games long before they were employed by RPGs.

And the Adventure subgenre: visual novels vastly outclass these games as well. Often featuring an absurd ammount of endings. That dwarf the plot reactivity most other games have.

HOW IS FINAL FANTASY X BETTER THEN PERSONA 3? HOW IS MASS EFFECT 3 BETTER THEN PERSONA 3!?

Also where's Final Fantasy XIV??

Some quality games listed here, but seriously.

That is not tactical in the slightest.

Armor is almost always as basic as picking whatever has the highest defense stat.

Combat can be boiled down to use best attack, heal when low on HP. In most RPGs, you dont plan, as much as you react to your current situation.

Wow, I'm no rpg fan but dear god that's a horrible list. Might as well toss the latest CoD game on there and call it a day.

@Fairmonkey: good for you

I dont really get the hype with FF6. If its really the best in the series and all, people would scream a remake and its not. FF7 still is the best in the series. Though personally, i still havent played a good RPG as xenogears.

You'll laugh, but the reason I stopped playing FFXIV: A realm reborn, was due to a patch that reduced gear choices to pretty much "whatever is the highest item level is always best". So bland. Developers like to call this crap "streamlined".

At least before this patch, a tank could choose str based for more damage, or vit based for more health. Not really a huge choice at all, but at least it's a choice.

Kingdom Hearts II over Persona 4, Xenoblade Chronicles and System Shock 2 is a crime against humanity,

@xdude85:

Persona 5 beats Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild, Persona 4, Persona 3, Kingdom Hearts 2, Final Fantasy X

Mass Effect 2 beats Witcher 3

Final Fantasy VII beats Persona 5

And some how Elder Scrolls Skyrim shits over ALL of them? I love Skyrim but **** you and your list, Game Informer.

Which, to be honest, who in the press wouldn't?

Diablo III should be lower than Path of Exile.... Its a better game and its free.

Also TECHNICALLY isn't the best RPG the highest SCORING RPG?... i.e. Couldn't they have just gone to the review section and set it to RPG games in score order?!... :P

Well at least Chrono Trigger is in its rightful spot.

The rest though...

And seriously, destiny? Ha.

Skyrim as number 1? Shittiest list ever confirmed.

I literally stopped after "The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim". It's not even the best TES game.

I truly didn't think a list could be worse than IGN's.... congratulations, you found one. Skyrim #1... lol.. puke. Not even top 100. FFVI and Chrono Trigger 2 and 3.... wow. What is this? A guide to over rated games for those that don't play games but want to look cool online? It's like a cool guy starter kit for millennial gamers to gain instant credibility online bruh... lmfao... get outta here ya bums.

No kingdoms of amulur lmao

@uninspiredcup:

SP throws up a lil in mouth, yuck.

@xdude85: why dont you like the list?

Number 1 Skyrim ? is this a joke ? SWTOR 7th ? Diablo 3 in there ?

lololol ... epic fail list

@eloepp: Have you looked at the list and/or read any of the comments in this thread?!? People aren't complaining about it calling it a horrible list because it's full of games that might be before their time, they're calling it a terrible list because it's full of non rpg games (Destiny says hello) and just dumbass entries and placings. Try a little thing called reading next time, it would do you a world of good.

stopped reading after seeing Skyrim at the top of the list, what a turd, mechanically an improvement to the TES games but damn, what's a TES games without substantive quests, which it didn't have in the slightest, just auto-gen garbage

Yeah the list is garbage. Great games, but some are not exactly RPGs. Whatever, its Game Informer. I lost respect in them long ago as they get hyped for every single upcoming game of the year with pages of previews. Then they give almost all games a pretty good score without being too critical even when games have obvious flaws that other game sites point out.

Game Informer loves everything. They are like a child in a video game store hyping everything up and never remembering that games that came before did things better than the newest entry.

FFs, I was a str based tank in that game.

Now they ruined my fun :(

IGN's list wasn't that bad to the point of losing my mind. But, Game Informer's RPG list is hilarious. Horizon Zero Dawn on that list? WOW! Don't even get me started on Destiny for that game was incomplete hot mess! How that game made into that list is beyond me, man. Skyrim deserves to be on that list. But, at number 1? Nah. I'm an Mass Effect fan, but first game ranked at number 65 while Mass Effect 3 ranked at number 45?! WOW, lmbo! WWWOOO, amazing job Game Informer! Folks who played Mass Effect 1 said that its more of an RPG than 2 & 3. Speaking of Mass Effect 3, I'm guessing they forgot about the controversial ending. I do like Mass Effect 2 alot for variety of reasons. But, at number 4?

## This list sucks. But I'm glad they rated FFVII, Persona 3/4/5 higher, and Chrono Cross too. I love Skyrim but #1 is pushing it tbh. Also Destiny is not an RPG lmao

I'm curious as to whether or not BotW is just considered an inferior RPG by the standards set by this list, or if they really think that there are 46 games that are better than it.

Your weapon breaks every 5 minutes. It's a fairly antiquated RPG mechanic Skyrim sensibly got rid of.

my thoughts exactly

I mean, I love a lot of those games, but I wouldn't put them on that list. They're just not good examples of RPGs.

Skyrim at #1!?!?!?!?!

Skryim is like 90% action game! It's a medieval-fantasy first-person shooter with talking!

It's clear it's considered not as accomplished as an RPG (and this list is only ranking it based on its merits as an RPG).

This list is a f*ck up

Ok, i've got my fair share of bitching to do about this supposed "100 Best RPGs of all time" list. First, Skyrim shouldn't be #1, I love Skyrim to death, but story and graphics were ok at best, and the game was a buggy mess at launch, and still partially is. The way I look at it, no Bethesda game has a place in the top 10, and I LOVE Bethesda, but their games are ALWAYS buggy and near Broken, and a majority of them STILL are years later. I also think that WoW doesn't have a place that high on the list, i'd say like 20 or so, but There are just better titles on the list. Bloodborne is not an RPG, Pokemon has no place within the top 50, Kingdom Hearts is more action than RPG. Now i'm curious as to how the actual **** Mass Effect 3 hit within the top 50 while the original is in the 60s, when the original is the better RPG, no competition. Also, Dragon Age Inquisition has no place in the top 100 at all, I mean it was an ok game, but just not a terribly great RPG, same thing with XCOM, it just isn't an RPG :/ Now can I ask how the actual shit Mario got on the list? Not once, but twice, just how?! Now on notes of Nintendo, why is BotW on the list and not other objectively better Zelda games like Majora's Mask, Windwaker, or Ocerina of Time? Honestly BotW had a very horizontal progression, with no real gain in power, and that is ESSENTIAL for an RPG to get right. And why are Castlevania and Dragon's Dogma so low? They honestly deserve a higher rank, at least in my eye. And, I want an explanation as to why Destiny, Horizon Zero Dawn, and Stick of Truth are even on here at all, they were all bad at being RPGs, but none were particularly bad games. That is pretty much it aside from really small details that are primarily irrelevant.

Hey hey hey hey all of you that are quickly going "wow what a shit list" and then also things like defend a game with its "metascore" or "industry awards", always remember that the same people giving out those metascores n industry awards, are the same people who make shitty lists like these.

Didn't expect Final Fantasy VI to be at number 2 but interesting top 100 list

@thelegitpotato: You spelled ocarina wrong, lmfao

@valgaav_219: Whoops :/ was rushed because school and stuff lmao

Controversial! :O

What do you think @jg4xchamp? :P

Disregarding the fact that The Legend of Zelda games aren't roleplaying games first of all which means that Breath of the Wild failing to grasp the essentials of an RPG in a series of action adventure games probably isn't much of an essential to begin with. You fight stuff, solve puzzles and explore in Zelda games. There is no role-playing, class system or choices dependent on your class or character. There is no role-playing in The Legend of Zelda so, in my mind it's not a role-playing game. :P

So for me Breath of the Wild doesn't belong on the list not because I think there are stronger Zelda games (in my opinion) like Majora's Mask, Link's Awakening or Oracles of Ages but because the entire Legend of Zelda franchise are action-adventure games. Not RPGs.

Final Fantasy 7 should be top 10 at the very least. Even Top 5. I will put it at number 1 personally.

@samfisher56: Agreed. FFVII was groundbreaking at it's time of release. It hasn't aged well but who cares. It's 20 years old. The fact that people still talk about it today speaks volumes imo

yeah the instant i saw that i stopped reading the rest. Really can't take them seriously

Cool that they mentioned Xenosaga, but not the right one.

I don't give a ****, lists are whatever n game informer is rubbish.

@jg4xchamp: These lists come out quite often I find. I don't know how anyone ranks 100 things. I couldn't do that...