Game Informer: "Suddenly the PS3 doesn't sound too overpriced"

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#1 DaddyDC650
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Direct quote from Game Informer April 2007 Magazine:

"It's a shame we all bought the supposed 'premium' Xbox 360 already, but the extra space is very welcome for multimedia purposes. HDMI isn't too huge, but at least it'll give Sony one less PS3 stat to brag about. As far as the price tag for the 120GB goes, what a rip-off! In two minutes online, I found a 500GB PC har drive for around the same price. Plus, when you add the price of an HD-DVD drive to this black box, you're looking at $680. Suddenly the PS3 doesn't seem so overpriced."

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Xbox 360 uses 2.5 inch laptop hard drives. The one the guy found was a 5.25 inch hard drive, which are cheaper than laptop hard drives. If you have an adapter , of course you can use the PC hard drive. But Im guessing most people dont, so its fruitless to look for PC hard drives for something that isnt compatible with them.
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#3 jonesy1911
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Xbox 360 uses 2.5 inch laptop hard drives. The one the guy found was a 5.25 inch hard drive, which are cheaper than laptop hard drives. If you have an adapter , of course you can use the PC hard drive. But Im guessing most people dont, so its fruitless to look for PC hard drives for something that isnt compatible with them.nytrospawn
but can you buy any 2.5" hdd for your 360 or does it have to come from MS?
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#4 sPOON_f33dU
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lol i read this, M$ got pwned
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#5 DaddyDC650
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[QUOTE="nytrospawn"]Xbox 360 uses 2.5 inch laptop hard drives. The one the guy found was a 5.25 inch hard drive, which are cheaper than laptop hard drives. If you have an adapter , of course you can use the PC hard drive. But Im guessing most people dont, so its fruitless to look for PC hard drives for something that isnt compatible with them.jonesy1911
but can you buy any 2.5" hdd for your 360 or does it have to come from MS?

You have to buy a hard drive from Microsoft. You can install almost any laptop hard drive to a PS3 without voiding the warranty.
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[QUOTE="nytrospawn"]Xbox 360 uses 2.5 inch laptop hard drives. The one the guy found was a 5.25 inch hard drive, which are cheaper than laptop hard drives. If you have an adapter , of course you can use the PC hard drive. But Im guessing most people dont, so its fruitless to look for PC hard drives for something that isnt compatible with them.jonesy1911
but can you buy any 2.5" hdd for your 360 or does it have to come from MS?

You can. Although I think you might need an adapter to hook it up to your X360, since I dont think you cant get OEM laptop hard drives, only external ones.
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#7 -The-G-Man-
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This coming from the magazine that complained about having to read in a game.
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Yesterday in 30 seconds I found a 120 gigabyte 2.5" SATA PS3 compatible hard drive for $115.
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#9 dimar19
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 Could you buy PS3 for 300$?

 /thread, PS 3 flopped 

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#10 luckystar23
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Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Said
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 Could you buy PS3 for 300$?

 /thread, PS 3 flopped 

dimar19
You cant buy a 360 for $300 either (In Canada) Actually, its an extra $100 for Canadians. And a PS3 is an extra $50/$60 for a MORE EXPENSIVE product. Microsoft TRUELY cares about its customers :roll:.
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Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidluckystar23
Just lacks Wifi :lol: But wait! You CAN get Wifi. Its just $100 more. :lol:
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Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidluckystar23
That is obvious. Should also be obviouse it doesn't have blu-ray with it?
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Game informer starting to sound like a lot of cows on these boards.. Do they not realize the HD-DVD drive has nothing to do with games?
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[QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidshungokustasu
That is obvious. Should also be obviouse it doesn't have blu-ray with it?

exaclty,just accept the fact that you were complaining how PS3 costs. Now 360 costs more with the HDdvd drive. PS3 comes with bluray out of the box.
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You cant buy a 360 for $300 either (In Canada) Actually, its an extra $100 for Canadians. And a PS3 is an extra $50/$60 for a MORE EXPENSIVE product. Microsoft TRUELY cares about its customers :roll:.bloodlust_101

 Who cares about Canada? Put off your goverment and join US 

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This coming from the magazine that complained about having to read in a game.-The-G-Man-
IMO........still better than EGM
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[QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidshungokustasu
That is obvious. Should also be obviouse it doesn't have blu-ray with it?

rather have a choice then being forced
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    Actually, that was the opinion of Bryan, not the whole magazine, and he also adds the cost of a useless HD-DVD player to his "example"
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidgamefreak5590
That is obvious. Should also be obviouse it doesn't have blu-ray with it?

exaclty,just accept the fact that you were complaining how PS3 costs. Now 360 costs more with the HDdvd drive. PS3 comes with bluray out of the box.

HDVD is USELESS to the 360. Forget the damn thing.
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidgamefreak5590
That is obvious. Should also be obviouse it doesn't have blu-ray with it?

exaclty,just accept the fact that you were complaining how PS3 costs. Now 360 costs more with the HDdvd drive. PS3 comes with bluray out of the box.

    That assumes that anyone actually cares about HD disc formats. 

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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidgamefreak5590
That is obvious. Should also be obviouse it doesn't have blu-ray with it?

exaclty,just accept the fact that you were complaining how PS3 costs. Now 360 costs more with the HDdvd drive. PS3 comes with bluray out of the box.

IF they WANT the Elite or IF they WANT the HD-DVD.
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[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]This coming from the magazine that complained about having to read in a game.Shinobishyguy
IMO........still better than EGM

Oh, HELL yeah it's better than EGM.  I hate that magazine so much.

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[QUOTE="gamefreak5590"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidbloodlust_101
That is obvious. Should also be obviouse it doesn't have blu-ray with it?

exaclty,just accept the fact that you were complaining how PS3 costs. Now 360 costs more with the HDdvd drive. PS3 comes with bluray out of the box.

HDVD is USELESS to the 360. Forget the damn thing.

    I would add that HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are useless, but I agree. 

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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidzidane345
That is obvious. Should also be obviouse it doesn't have blu-ray with it?

rather have a choice then being forced

That is what my little 6 year niece tells me all the time...Seriously, she does.
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[QUOTE="zidane345"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidshungokustasu
That is obvious. Should also be obviouse it doesn't have blu-ray with it?

rather have a choice then being forced

That is what my little 6 year niece tells me all the time...Seriously, she does.

 

Youngest hardware analyst I've ever heard of.

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[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"][QUOTE="gamefreak5590"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough SaidSpruceCaboose

That is obvious. Should also be obviouse it doesn't have blu-ray with it?

exaclty,just accept the fact that you were complaining how PS3 costs. Now 360 costs more with the HDdvd drive. PS3 comes with bluray out of the box.

HDVD is USELESS to the 360. Forget the damn thing.

    I would add that HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are useless, but I agree. 

Bluray isnt useless... Its being used for games.

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"]You cant buy a 360 for $300 either (In Canada) Actually, its an extra $100 for Canadians. And a PS3 is an extra $50/$60 for a MORE EXPENSIVE product. Microsoft TRUELY cares about its customers :roll:.dimar19

 Who cares about Canada? Put off your goverment and join US 

Id never join the USA... Canada is my home. It gives me FREE healthcare, Great winters(I love winter.. so...), and has everything I really need.
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"][QUOTE="gamefreak5590"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidbloodlust_101

That is obvious. Should also be obviouse it doesn't have blu-ray with it?

exaclty,just accept the fact that you were complaining how PS3 costs. Now 360 costs more with the HDdvd drive. PS3 comes with bluray out of the box.

HDVD is USELESS to the 360. Forget the damn thing.

I would add that HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are useless, but I agree.

Bluray isnt useless... Its being used for games.

But will rarely get used to its full potential.
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[QUOTE="gamefreak5590"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough SaidSpruceCaboose

That is obvious. Should also be obviouse it doesn't have blu-ray with it?

exaclty,just accept the fact that you were complaining how PS3 costs. Now 360 costs more with the HDdvd drive. PS3 comes with bluray out of the box.

That assumes that anyone actually cares about HD disc formats.

Every American will care when they switch to digital signals
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lol looks like microsoft is failing
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[QUOTE="nytrospawn"]Xbox 360 uses 2.5 inch laptop hard drives. The one the guy found was a 5.25 inch hard drive, which are cheaper than laptop hard drives. If you have an adapter , of course you can use the PC hard drive. But Im guessing most people dont, so its fruitless to look for PC hard drives for something that isnt compatible with them.jonesy1911
but can you buy any 2.5" hdd for your 360 or does it have to come from MS?

    Find out HERE
 

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 Could you buy PS3 for 300$?

 /thread, PS 3 flopped 

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Yes.
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="gamefreak5590"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough SaidsPOON_f33dU

That is obvious. Should also be obviouse it doesn't have blu-ray with it?

exaclty,just accept the fact that you were complaining how PS3 costs. Now 360 costs more with the HDdvd drive. PS3 comes with bluray out of the box.

That assumes that anyone actually cares about HD disc formats.

Every American will care when they switch to digital signals

    Uh, doubt it. When the switch happens (since its been delayed many times) the government is going to buy boxes for everyone so that SDTVs will continue to work and recieve signals.

    If you are saying its only due to digital, then I am forced to point out that DVDs are digital, as are the downloads that are becoming more and more popular every day (with IPTV and Apple TV coming, its only getting bigger). 

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[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"][QUOTE="gamefreak5590"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough SaidBlue-Sphere

That is obvious. Should also be obviouse it doesn't have blu-ray with it?

exaclty,just accept the fact that you were complaining how PS3 costs. Now 360 costs more with the HDdvd drive. PS3 comes with bluray out of the box.

HDVD is USELESS to the 360. Forget the damn thing.

I would add that HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are useless, but I agree.

Bluray isnt useless... Its being used for games.

But will rarely get used to its full potential.

Rarely, maybe. But it is being put to use in: Final Fantasy 13 Metal Gear Solid 4 Resistance (launch title) And like mark said, soon games will be well over 20GB. MS Flight simulator is 20 GB (Was it 20? I think it might have been 14...)
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[QUOTE="zidane345"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidshungokustasu
That is obvious. Should also be obviouse it doesn't have blu-ray with it?

rather have a choice then being forced

That is what my little 6 year niece tells me all the time...Seriously, she does.

But it's true, I rather have a choice than being forced to buy something, I want a gaming console, and I didn't bought the HDDVD drive, why? cuz I don't need it.
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Direct quote from Game Informer April 2007 Magazine:

"It's a shame we all bought the supposed 'premium' Xbox 360 already, but the extra space is very welcome for multimedia purposes. HDMI isn't too huge, but at least it'll give Sony one less PS3 stat to brag about. As far as the price tag for the 120GB goes, what a rip-off! In two minutes online, I found a 500GB PC har drive for around the same price. Plus, when you add the price of an HD-DVD drive to this black box, you're looking at $680. Suddenly the PS3 doesn't seem so overpriced."

DaddyDC650

The PS3 is very cheap if your considering what your getting. People dont get that for some reason.

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[QUOTE="jonesy1911"][QUOTE="nytrospawn"]Xbox 360 uses 2.5 inch laptop hard drives. The one the guy found was a 5.25 inch hard drive, which are cheaper than laptop hard drives. If you have an adapter , of course you can use the PC hard drive. But Im guessing most people dont, so its fruitless to look for PC hard drives for something that isnt compatible with them.SpruceCaboose

but can you buy any 2.5" hdd for your 360 or does it have to come from MS?

    Find out HERE
 

that works but you stll have to buy the hdd...which means that your spending 20$ extra....which once you get above 100-150 dollars i guess that doesnt make much of a difference...but can you use it on the ps3?...i mean it doesnt matter much but i guess that way it would be an easier way of transfering stuff from console to console

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[QUOTE="sPOON_f33dU"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="gamefreak5590"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough SaidSpruceCaboose

That is obvious. Should also be obviouse it doesn't have blu-ray with it?

exaclty,just accept the fact that you were complaining how PS3 costs. Now 360 costs more with the HDdvd drive. PS3 comes with bluray out of the box.

That assumes that anyone actually cares about HD disc formats.

Every American will care when they switch to digital signals

Uh, doubt it. When the switch happens (since its been delayed many times) the government is going to buy boxes for everyone so that SDTVs will continue to work and recieve signals.

If you are saying its only due to digital, then I am forced to point out that DVDs are digital, as are the downloads that are becoming more and more popular every day (with IPTV and Apple TV coming, its only getting bigger).

Lol buy boxes for everyone? nah, they'll just advertise HD and lower the price... which causes people to care about the HD disc format
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="zidane345"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Said-KinGz-
That is obvious. Should also be obviouse it doesn't have blu-ray with it?

rather have a choice then being forced

That is what my little 6 year niece tells me all the time...Seriously, she does.

But it's true, I rather have a choice than being forced to buy something, I want a gaming console, and I didn't bought the HDDVD drive, why? cuz I don't need it.

sure sign of someone in the MS mentality.....thinking of only the short term.....think im joking?...they rush EVERYTHING.....everything

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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidgamefreak5590
That is obvious. Should also be obviouse it doesn't have blu-ray with it?

exaclty,just accept the fact that you were complaining how PS3 costs. Now 360 costs more with the HDdvd drive. PS3 comes with bluray out of the box.

the point is i dont want the hd dvd drive so for me the xbox 360 elite is only 479 still cheaper than a ps3 L0L
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Lol buy boxes for everyone? nah, they'll just advertise HD and lower the price... which causes people to care about the HD disc formatsPOON_f33dU

    LOL at you for not knowing your facts. You need to start watching where your tax dollars are going! Link!

    Quote of note: "The legislation provides $1.5 billion in digital converter-box subsidies for the approximately 15 percent of U.S. households (20 million) that currently receive exclusively over-the-air broadcasts."

    It also has nothing to do with HDTV, as most new SDTVs can and do recieve digital signals. 

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[QUOTE="-KinGz-"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="zidane345"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidhyperboy152000

That is obvious. Should also be obviouse it doesn't have blu-ray with it?

rather have a choice then being forced

That is what my little 6 year niece tells me all the time...Seriously, she does.

But it's true, I rather have a choice than being forced to buy something, I want a gaming console, and I didn't bought the HDDVD drive, why? cuz I don't need it.

sure sign of someone in the MS mentality.....thinking of only the short term.....think im joking?...they rush EVERYTHING.....everything

When will 360s successor planned to be released again? What about the PS4?
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#43 SpruceCaboose
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Bluray isnt useless... Its being used for games. But will rarely get used to its full potential. Rarely, maybe. But it is being put to use in: Final Fantasy 13 Metal Gear Solid 4 Resistance (launch title) And like mark said, soon games will be well over 20GB. MS Flight simulator is 20 GB (Was it 20? I think it might have been 14...)bloodlust_101

Compression is great though. It makes data fit into smaller spaces.

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#44 coldkill19
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:lol: 360 got pwned again
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#45 bloodlust_101
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[QUOTE="gamefreak5590"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidfamousking
That is obvious. Should also be obviouse it doesn't have blu-ray with it?

exaclty,just accept the fact that you were complaining how PS3 costs. Now 360 costs more with the HDdvd drive. PS3 comes with bluray out of the box.

the point is i dont want the hd dvd drive so for me the xbox 360 elite is only 479 still cheaper than a ps3 L0L

+ $270 for online. Unless you want half the experience that PS3 users get. But, you are getting significantly less of an experience already, what with no HD movies and everything... So maybe you dont want a good experience with a console. Lets not forget buying extra controllers, AND the charger kids. But you dont want that do you? I mean, its OPTIONAL isnt it? You prefer a stripped down experience. Playing alone in a basement, noone there to enjoy a fullfilling experience with. But wait! On the plus side, you prefer to play 100% by yourself. So at least you wont need to see a long wire moving through your house, because you aint got no wifi.

Edit: uhh.. also.. if you honestly think I believe you play in your basement all alone with no friends or communication to the outside world, you should stop visiting systemwars.
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#46 hyperboy152000
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[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"] Bluray isnt useless... Its being used for games. But will rarely get used to its full potential. Rarely, maybe. But it is being put to use in: Final Fantasy 13 Metal Gear Solid 4 Resistance (launch title) And like mark said, soon games will be well over 20GB. MS Flight simulator is 20 GB (Was it 20? I think it might have been 14...)SpruceCaboose

Compression is great though. It makes data fit into smaller spaces.

its also takes time to decompress....but due to constantly newer tech. (not interms of media storage) that doesnt seem to be much of a problem nowadays

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#47 bloodlust_101
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[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"] Bluray isnt useless... Its being used for games. But will rarely get used to its full potential. Rarely, maybe. But it is being put to use in: Final Fantasy 13 Metal Gear Solid 4 Resistance (launch title) And like mark said, soon games will be well over 20GB. MS Flight simulator is 20 GB (Was it 20? I think it might have been 14...)SpruceCaboose

Compression is great though. It makes data fit into smaller spaces.

Clearly visible with the loading times on the games... You REALLY dont want to admit ANYTHING possitive about the PS3 do you?
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#48 south411
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dude...ps3 is still too expensive. so is the new 360 might i add.
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#49 hyperboy152000
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[QUOTE="famousking"][QUOTE="gamefreak5590"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidbloodlust_101
That is obvious. Should also be obviouse it doesn't have blu-ray with it?

exaclty,just accept the fact that you were complaining how PS3 costs. Now 360 costs more with the HDdvd drive. PS3 comes with bluray out of the box.

the point is i dont want the hd dvd drive so for me the xbox 360 elite is only 479 still cheaper than a ps3 L0L

+ $270 for online. Unless you want half the experience that PS3 users get. But, you are getting significantly less of an experience already, what with no HD movies and everything... So maybe you dont want a good experience with a console. Lets not forget buying extra controllers, AND the charger kids. But you dont want that do you? I mean, its OPTIONAL isnt it? You prefer a stripped down experience. Playing alone in a basement, noone there to enjoy a fullfilling experience with. But wait! On the plus side, you prefer to play 100% by yourself. So at least you wont need to see a long wire moving through your house, because you aint got no wifi.

to be fair LIVE is the console online servce that is the standard....if it wasnt sony wouldnt have been pushing HOME....they wouldnt have any reason to

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#50 SpruceCaboose
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+ $270 for online. Unless you want half the experience that PS3 users get. But, you are getting significantly less of an experience already, what with no HD movies and everything... So maybe you dont want a good experience with a console. Lets not forget buying extra controllers, AND the charger kids. But you dont want that do you? I mean, its OPTIONAL isnt it? You prefer a stripped down experience. Playing alone in a basement, noone there to enjoy a fullfilling experience with. But wait! On the plus side, you prefer to play 100% by yourself. So at least you wont need to see a long wire moving through your house, because you aint got no wifi.bloodlust_101

    See, I have a gaming system for games. If I wanted a movie player, I'd buy one. As for the fee for Live, I gladly pay it in order to get a streamlined, unified experience that allows for more games to be played online. I don't see how cows can continue to bash paying for Live when Virtua Tennis just showed, convincingly, why paying a relatively small yearly fee is beneficial. 360 owners can play Virtua Tennis online, while PS3 owners cannot.Â