Final Fantasy games on Switch limited to 32gb carts could hurt the experience...

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#1 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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https://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news/final-fantasy-x-and-x-2-hd-remaster-for-nintendo-switch-to-ship-on-32gb-cartridge-1984454

THE FF devs said they had to shrink and save space for the games which isn't a good sign for a game. The game FFX remastered was 50GB so how would that fit on 32gb cart it wouldn't the devs had to go in and shrink it which could cause problems like Ark Survival Evolve had for the switch who also said the space wasn't enough.

NINTENDO you are way behind the ps4 and blurays.

Your carts are too small they don't have enough space for 10 year old games like FFX. This is not right. Its wrong. Play FF on playstation or get a vita or something.

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#2  Edited By lundy86_4
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They should do a subsequent download, considering the space on the Switch, along with the ability for an SD card expansion. Weren't the 64gb cards delayed in 2017? When are they rolling out?

I already have the remasters on PC... No need to bother with the PS for me :)

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#3  Edited By mandzilla  Moderator
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@ProtossRushX said:

or get a vita or something.

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#4 mandzilla  Moderator
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@lundy86_4: Yeah, I'd have thought the 64gb cards would have been available by now. Maybe the price is unattractive to developers at the moment.

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#5 lundy86_4
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@mandzilla: Last I heard, they were simply delayed. I'm sure the prices for devs are gonna be crazy, like you've said... Which sucks cos Ninty does need to push them.

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#6 X_Karen_x
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How does Ps2 game of 5gig go to 50gig for remaster?

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@lundy86_4: Ah okay, could be quite a while before we see them then. Mhm, will just have to wait and see if any devs actually decide to use them when they do drop.

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#8 sakaiXx
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Nintendo fans is used to 2nd class treatment, nothing changed.

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#9 X_Karen_x
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@sakaixx:

But they support system for longest time.

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#10 Archangel3371
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I’m getting the Xbox One versions myself but I think the Switch versions will probably be fine.

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#11 deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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Download the rest like so many Switch, PS4, Xbox One games???

Dumb thread

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#12 ocinom
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50gb ffx remaster? That’s BS. They should have ported the ps3 version if they had a problem with the size

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#13 FireEmblem_Man
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@mandzilla said:

@lundy86_4: Yeah, I'd have thought the 64gb cards would have been available by now. Maybe the price is unattractive to developers at the moment.

64 GB were delayed, but will release sometimes this year. But hey, the 32 GB are now in mass production at a reasonable price, which should fit games more than downloading half the games.

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#14  Edited By lundy86_4
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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@mandzilla said:

@lundy86_4: Yeah, I'd have thought the 64gb cards would have been available by now. Maybe the price is unattractive to developers at the moment.

64 GB were delayed, but will release sometimes this year. But hey, the 32 GB are now in mass production at a reasonable price, which should fit games more than downloading half the games.

I know. The cards were delayed a couple years ago, but I couldn't see anything recently... I could just be stupid lol. If the game is too big for Switch carts, then downloading is fine, but Ninty need to release higher memory cartridges.

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#15 freedomfreak
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Switch is a joke. Nothing new here.

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@freedomfreak said:

Switch is a joke. Nothing new here.

You're a joke, what happened to you?

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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@freedomfreak said:

Switch is a joke. Nothing new here.

You're a joke, what happened to you?

lmao

he was in a coma and woke up a troll again.

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#18  Edited By KBFloYd
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@x_karen_x said:

How does Ps2 game of 5gig go to 50gig for remaster?

exactly, all these games that are like 80GB and more is ridiculous. Now a days how big the game file is makes people thing its a higher quality game.

it's a joke.

also how the **** is the switch going to have blu-ray drive?

just fit as much as you can in a cart and make the rest a download. no biggie.

if breath of the wild is 12GB then you can make this PS3 game the same way. stop being lazy.

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#19 magmadragoonx4
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File sizes aren't always the same when consoles use different file types. PS3 files used to always take about twice the size as the 360's for the same game.

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#20 uninspiredcup
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Disgusting little console.

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#21 npiet1
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@FireEmblem_Man: so they can support SD cards up to 2tb that aren't even made yet, but a 64gb card is delayed.

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#22  Edited By Litchie  Online
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As long as Crystal Chronicles is good. Couldn't care less about the other FF games.

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#23 Techhog89
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I love how you started with concern trolling but then shifted to a PlayStation ad at the end. And LOL at thinking the Switch version would somehow be worse than the Vita version.

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If only developers could compress assets so that 15 year old games were not 50GB because of "TEH UNCOMPRESSED AUDIO 4K WE ARE TOO LAZY TO COMPRESS" qualty.

Developers take the piss. Years ago there use to be time and money spent in compressing games down while maintaining the quality. FFX etc shouldn't be more than 10GB there is no justifiable reason.

Yet hey, lets bash the Switch for developers putting thier compression effort/cost TO THE CONSUMORS, because the PC/PS4/XBOX users bow down and take it up the arse because "50GB is nothign these days" really...

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@x_karen_x said:

How does Ps2 game of 5gig go to 50gig for remaster?

Higher resolution textures and videos.

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#26  Edited By Jag85
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@x_karen_x: Exactly. 50 GB is ridiculous for what was originally a 5 GB game. It's like Squenix didn't even bother using any compression, but left everything uncompressed. Just some compression is all it takes to bring it back down to 30 GB.

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#27 osan0
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thats for both games on the 1 card? not bad. remember when the idea of fitting FF7 on a cart was laughable? ah...good times.

im guessing its the FMV thats the big problem. did they upgrade them for 1080p on the other platforms?

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#28  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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@goldenelementxl said:

Download the rest like so many Switch, PS4, Xbox One games???

Dumb thread

Gotta love it. They pretend like every single PS4 game doesn't have a 50GB download even when purchased physically.

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#29 deactivated-5cab66ac558b0
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They could just use the last gen version, unless they are over 32gb as well.

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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@mandzilla said:

@lundy86_4: Yeah, I'd have thought the 64gb cards would have been available by now. Maybe the price is unattractive to developers at the moment.

64 GB were delayed, but will release sometimes this year. But hey, the 32 GB are now in mass production at a reasonable price, which should fit games more than downloading half the games.

Yeah, you're right 32GB is pretty okay right now considering Switch games are for the most part well compressed. Smells like a troll thread anyway lol.

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#31 mojito1988
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SE sure knows nothing about Data compression. How is Zelda BOTW 14.5 gigs, but old Final Fantasy games need more than 32 gigs?

Weird. Most Final Fantasy games are kind of horrible (exceptions are 4,6, 9 and 12), but you would think you could fit the entire series on 32 gigs at this point (besides 15 or course.)

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@npiet1: What they are talking about is the actual game cartridges the games come on, not microSD cards.

From the Nintendo Switch page on Wikipedia:

"Game cards at the time of the Switch's release had a 32GB capacity; Nintendo had planned to introduce 64GB game cards by the second half of 2018, but had to push this back until 2019.[221] Some physical games may still require content to be installed to internal storage, with some games using a significant portion of the internal memory if a microSD card is not available.[222] Other physical games which have a large amount of content may require a microSD card to be present in the Switch, such as NBA 2K18; such games are clearly marked on the cover to show these requirements.[223]"

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#33 npiet1
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@Ovirew said:

@npiet1: What they are talking about is the actual game cartridges the games come on, not microSD cards.

From the Nintendo Switch page on Wikipedia:

"Game cards at the time of the Switch's release had a 32GB capacity; Nintendo had planned to introduce 64GB game cards by the second half of 2018, but had to push this back until 2019.[221] Some physical games may still require content to be installed to internal storage, with some games using a significant portion of the internal memory if a microSD card is not available.[222] Other physical games which have a large amount of content may require a microSD card to be present in the Switch, such as NBA 2K18; such games are clearly marked on the cover to show these requirements.[223]"

That's not the point. There essentially a SD card. So why is it so hard for Nintendo to release a 64gb card?

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#34 tocool340
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Really? The game is actually a 37GB download, NOT 50GB as I do have it off steam on my PC. You can't tell me it's that difficult to compress portions of the game to fit on a cart. Sounds like the talk of a lazy dev to me....

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#35 deactivated-5e90a3763ea91
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@npiet1: That's a good question, but I'm not sure why.