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Out of all the RPG's that came out this gen which is your favorite? Oblivion? FO3? ME? Lost Odyssey? Post 'em!corn_dogs
Can we count Persona 4, because that's an AUTO Win, but if not :
I guess ME, and Valkyria Chronicles...
with a shout out to Tales of Vesperia and Disgaea 3.
[QUOTE="zh666"]Super Paper MarioSolidTy
huh? That's not an RPG, that was a Platformer (Unlike the other games in the series)...
Sure, it had RPG elements (I have it), but it was a Platformer.
[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="zh666"]Super Paper Mariozh666
huh? That's not an RPG, that was a Platformer (Unlike the other games in the series)...
Sure, it had RPG elements (I have it), but it was a Platformer.
I suppose so, I guess it comes down to is the game a PLATFORMER with RPG elements, or an RPG with Platforming elements. Same goes for ME. (Action game with RPG elements, or reverse.).
[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="zh666"]Super Paper Mariogam3r3OOO
huh? That's not an RPG, that was a Platformer...
Well..... Technically it was. You level up, do more damage, get more health, collect items. So it was a Realtime RPG.Well, you just described ZELDA.
I own SPM, and many sites do agree that it is more Platformer than RPG, but in this day and age, I guess the Line is Blurred...:)
[QUOTE="gam3r3OOO"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]Well..... Technically it was. You level up, do more damage, get more health, collect items. So it was a Realtime RPG.huh? That's not an RPG, that was a Platformer...
SolidTy
Well, you just described ZELDA.
Next you're going to tell us Zelda isn't an RPG...
http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=8965913&publicUserId=5807694
For me it would either be Fallout 3 or Tales of Vesperia.
Mass Effect and Fable 2 getting honorable mentions.
[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="gam3r3OOO"] Well..... Technically it was. You level up, do more damage, get more health, collect items. So it was a Realtime RPG.zh666
Well, you just described ZELDA.
I own SPM, and many sites do agree that it is more Platformer than RPG, but in this day and age, I guess the Line is Blurred...:)
Next you're going to tell us Zelda isn't an RPG...
http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=8965913&publicUserId=5807694
GEEZUSS! (Nice fun blog to read) :)
Look, I agree with taht Blog, however, I find it way to hard to define the industry against the tide. I do agree, that Zelda is an RPG, BUT the Gaming Community doesn't, so then it comes down to definitions.
When we start mixing that stuff up, people can say that :
MGS4 was their RPG of the Year, or GTA4. It gets kind of crazy.
[QUOTE="zh666"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]Well, you just described ZELDA.
I own SPM, and many sites do agree that it is more Platformer than RPG, but in this day and age, I guess the Line is Blurred...:)
SolidTy
Next you're going to tell us Zelda isn't an RPG...
http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=8965913&publicUserId=5807694
GEEZUSS! (Nice fun blog to read) :)
Look, I agree with taht Blog, however, I find it way to hard to define the industry against the tide. I do agree, that Zelda is an RPG, BUT the Gaming Community doesn't, so then it comes down to definitions.
When we start mixing that stuff up, people can say that :
MGS4 was their RPG of the Year, or GTA4. It gets kind of crazy.
I think puzzle solving, character growth and exploration is a bigger part in Super Paper Mario than the actual Platforming part. Yeah, it's 2D and yeah you jump, and yeah, it looks like Mario 3, but it's hardly the same. I can't think of a single moment where there was a tricky jump. You know what else was a 2D Sidescroller? Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Zelda II, Faxanadu, Battle of Olympus, Ys 3: Wanderers from Ys, Cadash, Popful Mail, Odin Sphere, etc etc.. RPGs have evolved over the years, it's kinda nitpicky to pingeon hold the genre with Final Fantasy or Oblivion standards don't you think?
[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="zh666"]
Next you're going to tell us Zelda isn't an RPG...
http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=8965913&publicUserId=5807694zh666
GEEZUSS! (Nice fun blog to read) :)
Look, I agree with that Blog, however, I find it way to hard to define the industry against the tide. I do agree, that Zelda is an RPG, BUT the Gaming Community doesn't, so then it comes down to definitions.
When we start mixing that stuff up, people can say that :
MGS4 was their RPG of the Year, or GTA4. It gets kind of crazy.
I think puzzle solving, character growth and exploration is a bigger part in Super Paper Mario than the actual Platforming part. Yeah, it's 2D and yeah you jump, and yeah, it looks like Mario 3, but it's hardly the same. I can't think of a single moment where there was a tricky jump. You know what else was a 2D Sidescroller? Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Zelda II, Faxanadu, Battle of Olympus, Ys 3: Wanderers from Ys, Cadash, Popful Mail, Odin Sphere, etc etc.. RPGs have evolved over the years, it's kinda nitpicky to pingeon hold the genre with Final Fantasy or Oblivion standards don't you think?
Many of the games you listed aren't considered RPG's by the mainstream, like Castlevania SOTN, etc. I do agree, pigeonholing can be troublesome, but the standards are getting to hard to define as well.
Zelda is not an RPG, maybe if you're casual and you don't know what an RPG is, sure. But Zelda has nothing to do with RPG at all.Drukter
Zelda is not an RPG, maybe if you're casual and you don't know what an RPG is, sure. But Zelda has nothing to do with RPG at all.Drukter
I've been playing RPGs since 1988. Zelda is an RPG and is the MOST important Action RPG ever made. I would like for you to debate that last claim. zh666
[QUOTE="Drukter"]Zelda is not an RPG, maybe if you're casual and you don't know what an RPG is, sure. But Zelda has nothing to do with RPG at all.zh666
How old are you guys?zh666
[QUOTE="zh666"]How old are you guys?foxhound_fox
What makes a Zelda game an RPG is non-linearity, character growth, skill building, etc. I'm not saying it's deep. RPGs have progressed beyond the D&D rules. Just because games like WOW, Oblivion and Fallout are hot now doesn't dismiss ****c and important games like Zelda
His age is irrelevant, he is obviously old enough to know what an RPG is. Zelda is an Action adventure game with slight RPG elements. Like I said before, if you would look at everyone's zelda saved files you would see the EXACT SAME THING, there is no actual role playing.
You sound like a History Revisionist to me. Did you live through the actual history or not? That's why I want to know your age.
Are you old enough to remember any of this:
http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?publicUserId=5807694&bId=8965913What makes a Zelda game an RPG is non-linearity, character growth, skill building, etc. I'm not saying it's deep. RPGs have progressed beyond the D&D rules. Just because games like WOW, Oblivion and Fallout are hot now doesn't dismiss ****c and important games like Zelda
zh666
You sound like a History Revisionist to me. Did you live through the actual history or not? That's why I want to know your age.Are you old enough to remember any of this:
http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?publicUserId=5807694&bId=8965913What makes a Zelda game an RPG is non-linearity, character growth, skill building, etc. I'm not saying it's deep. RPGs have progressed beyond the D&D rules. Just because games like WOW, Oblivion and Fallout are hot now doesn't dismiss ****c and important games like Zelda
zh666
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