Everything Microsoft doesn't want you to know about the PS3

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#1 PS3nut
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Hey heres an educational series of video's on Youtube for all the skeptical fanboys that will show them the true advantages to owning the PS3 over any other system so do yourselves a favor and take the time to look at each one listed by this guy and try and muster up the nerve to come back in here and defend the 360 over the PS3 because every point this guy mentions is pure fact listed on this very internet and every point is exactly why you should all trade up for a PS3.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw1iYWJdNMs

However, i'm only interested in honest responses of people who actually took the time to view the video's and not just this post before they list their comments here...Thank you.

P.S. please cut & paste link if clicking it doesn't work...thanks

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#2 Pokeratxbox
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My god....i've been convinced. i will sell my 360 and my 20 games for a ps3

I not sarcastic, i really am

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#3 Ze_ALEX
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oh my god!! im trading mine in... RIGHT NOW cause i need another ps3!!
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#4 u8muhrice
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i think most of the video is old news... I wouldnt even label it as what MS doesnt want you know.. but maybe as more of a Reason why you should get a PS3
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#5 PS3nut
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My god....i've been convinced. i will sell my 360 and my 20 games for a ps3

I not sarcastic, i really am

Pokeratxbox

Actually whether your being sarcastic or not, i think 360 owners should seriously re-think their console after seeing and hearing all these facts that most of them probably weren't aware of, because as a consumer knowing what i learned from these video's i would never buy a 360.

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#6 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="Pokeratxbox"]

My god....i've been convinced. i will sell my 360 and my 20 games for a ps3

I not sarcastic, i really am

PS3nut

Actually whether your being sarcastic or not, i think 360 owners should seriously re-think their console after seeing and hearing all these facts that most of them probably weren't aware of, because as a consumer knowing what i learned from these video's i would never buy a 360.

facts so far....ps3 is geting killed in scores, sales and games by 360 and wii, Its free online service is geting killed by a payfor service.

Its 14 months old and has no AAA or AAAE titles.

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#7 fathertroy
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that was interesting
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#9 krunkfu2
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how would microsoft control our knowledge on a console not their own?
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#10 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="PS3nut"][QUOTE="Pokeratxbox"]

My god....i've been convinced. i will sell my 360 and my 20 games for a ps3

I not sarcastic, i really am

4seal

Actually whether your being sarcastic or not, i think 360 owners should seriously re-think their console after seeing and hearing all these facts that most of them probably weren't aware of, because as a consumer knowing what i learned from these video's i would never buy a 360.

facts so far....ps3 is geting killed in scores, sales and games by 360 and wii, Its free online service is geting killed by a payfor service.

Its 14 months old and has no AAA or AAAE titles.

lol, you still take gamespot scores seriously?

actually if you knew any thing you'd know at gamespot the ps3 has like 6 AAA titles im going by gamerankings.com and by that site the ps3 has one AAA and thats oblivion otherwise it has no AAA or AAAE games.

P.S: why are you still here if you dont take the scores seriously? if you dont like gamespot then leave.

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#12 PS3nut
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[QUOTE="PS3nut"][QUOTE="Pokeratxbox"]

My god....i've been convinced. i will sell my 360 and my 20 games for a ps3

I not sarcastic, i really am

WilliamRLBaker

Actually whether your being sarcastic or not, i think 360 owners should seriously re-think their console after seeing and hearing all these facts that most of them probably weren't aware of, because as a consumer knowing what i learned from these video's i would never buy a 360.

facts so far....ps3 is geting killed in scores, sales and games by 360 and wii, Its free online service is geting killed by a payfor service.

Its 14 months old and has no AAA or AAAE titles.

People also said that because of Sega Dreamcast's 1 year's headstart, internal modem and games like NFL 2k, Soul Calibur, Ready to Rumble and other hit titles that it would beat out the PS2 but we all know how that ended, don't we.

So if i were you i wouldn't go by the short passage of time, triple A titles and sales just yet where Sony's involved.

Trust me you ain't seen nothing yet.

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#13 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="krunkfu2"]how would microsoft control our knowledge on a console not their own?4seal

Who said they where controling it? It just said microsoft does not want you to know.

um yeah....that term something they dont want you to know about tends to convey a certain attitude or acitivty that its being kept from you, that the truth is being covered up...ect

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facts so far....ps3 is geting killed in scores, sales and games by 360 and wii, Its free online service is geting killed by a payfor service.

Its 14 months old and has no AAA or AAAE titles. WilliamRLBaker


Those are not facts. 2 are a lie, 2 are opinion, and 1 is completely stupid and doesn't even apply to any region the PS3 has been released in.

Can you guess which are which?
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#17 WilliamRLBaker
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Those are not facts. 2 are a lie, 2 are opinion, and 1 is completely stupid and doesn't even apply to any region the PS3 has been released in.

Can you guess which are which?H8s2spooge

*posting owange right now it will be a minute*

360 sales and wii Sales world wide

Wii 22m
360 17m
Ps3 10m

360 game scores since release game rankings

1. The Orange Box X360 EA Games 52 9.196.188%2. BioShock X360 2K Games 89 9.395.292%3. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare X360 Activision 72 9.194.069%4. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion X360 2K Games 102 9.293.875%5. Gears of War X360 Microsoft Game Studios 109 8.793.789%6. Halo 3 X360 Microsoft Game Studios 86 8.593.352%7. Rock Band X360 MTV Games 52 8.292.913%8. Guitar Hero II X360 RedOctane 58 8.191.891%9. Rez HD X360 Q Entertainment 27 7.091.074%10. Mass Effect X360 Microsoft Game Studios 75 9.290.736%11. Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter

Wii game scores since release gamerankings

1. Super Mario Galaxy WII Nintendo 66 8.997.191%2. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess WII Nintendo 81 9.293.907%3. Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition WII Capcom 58 8.890.960%

Ps3 game scores since release gamerankings

1. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare PS3 Activision 43 7.893.621%2. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion PS3 Bethesda Softworks 53 7.793.189%3. Rock Band PS3 MTV Games 26 --90.892%

Game sales since release vgchartz
360
1 Halo 3 Microsoft 57,257 7.14 7.37m
2 Gears Of War Microsoft 19,712 7.81 5.04m
3 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Activision 26,564 7.07 5.03m
4 Forza Motorsport 2 Microsoft 17,544 7.74 3.64m
5 Assassins Creed Ubisoft 19,130 7.48 3.49m
6 Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock RedOctane 7,890 7.54 2.43m
7 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 2k Games 8,934 7.84 2.40m
8 Marvel: Ultimate Alliance Activision 6,496 6.55 2.38m
9 Madden NFL 08 EA Sports 4,980 7.49 2.15m
10 Tom Clancy Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter Ubisoft 2,434 7.33 2.12m
11 Tom Clancy Rainbow Six: Vegas Ubisoft 4,140 7.41 2.08m
12 Call of Duty 2 Activision 2,586 6.30 2.02m
13 Call of Duty 3 Spike 2,994 5.50 1.97m
14 Guitar Hero II RedOctane 4,180 7.21 1.96m
15 Madden NFL 07 EA 1,735 5.29 1.80m
16 Saints Row THQ 2,615 7.34 1.69m
17 Fight Night Round 3 EA 1,836 5.82 1.65m
18 Dead Rising Capcom 4,460 7.52 1.63m
19 Bioshock 2K Games 24,779 7.83 1.63m
20 Mass Effect Microsoft 22,583 7.74 1.60m
21 Crackdown Microsoft 3,533 7.35 1.42m
22 Lost Planet: Extreme Condition Capcom 4,699 6.91 1.41m
23 Perfect Dark Zero Microsoft 2,957 6.57 1.37m
24 Project Gotham Racing 3 Microsoft 1,886 6.51 1.35m
25 Need for Speed: Most Wanted EA 762 7.14 1.34m
26 Tom Clancy Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 Ubisoft 2,017 7.53 1.31m
27 Need for Speed: Carbon EA 1,232 3.83 1.26m
28 Viva Pinata Microsoft 4,873 7.04 1.18m
29 Need for Speed: ProStreet EA 3,615 7.00 1.13m
30 Tom Clancy Splinter Cell: Double Agent Ubisoft 2,070 6.48 1.13m
31 WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2008 THQ 2,085 6.76 1.09m
32 Pro Evolution Soccer 6 Konami 861 6.20 1.08m
33 FIFA 08 EA Sports 2,019 7.32 1.05m
34 Dead or Alive 4 Tecmo 2,977 7.32 1.01m

Wii
1 Wii Sports Nintendo 37,800 7.84 19.68m
2 Wii Play Nintendo 19,815 6.83 10.41m
3 Super Mario Galaxy Nintendo 112,567 8.23 5.95m
4 Mario Party 8 Nintendo 21,207 7.49 4.76m
5 The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Nintendo 28,795 8.35 4.67m
6 Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games Sega 34,754 7.73 3.38m
7 Wario Ware: Smooth Moves Nintendo 5,480 7.40 2.26m
8 Super Paper Mario Nintendo 13,004 7.87 2.22m
9 Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree Nintendo 7,407 7.45 2.16m
10 Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock RedOctane 11,847 7.74 1.88m
11 Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition Capcom 42,539 8.13 1.64m
12 Wii Fit Nintendo 20,093 7.81 1.63m
13 Mario Strikers Charged Nintendo 13,934 7.85 1.49m
14 Super Smash Bros Brawl Nintendo 29,401 8.08 1.45m
15 Link's Crossbow Training Nintendo 10,079 7.34 1.36m
16 Rayman Raving Rabbids Ubisoft 5,664 7.63 1.28m
17 Metroid Prime 3: Corruption Nintendo 43,658 8.17 1.21m
18 Carnival Games Global Star 7,175 7.18 1.19m
19 Sonic and the Secret Rings Sega 8,577 7.75 1.18m
20 Red Steel Ubisoft 4,517 7.01 1.04m

Ps3
1 Motorstorm Sony 17,929 7.57 2.78m
2 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Activision 21,049 7.73 2.52m
3 Resistance: Fall of Man Sony 20,862 7.83 2.39m
4 Assassins Creed Ubisoft 21,701 7.62 2.31m
5 Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 Konami 8,984 7.53 1.33m
6 Uncharted: Drakes Fortune Sony 71,325 8.00 1.29m
7 FIFA 08 EA Sports 4,913 7.26 1.17m
8 Need for Speed: ProStreet EA 6,879 6.93 1.06m

Online
ps3 has world wide 10 million sales in consoles, they have only at last count 3-4million users on a free service.

Xbox 360 has 17 million sales in consoles, they have 10 million xbox live users a paid service....

I think i've posted enough.

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#18 deactivated-619c4c1a1a382
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i didnt know that the RSX had 128 bit capabilities damn gotta look more deeply at the specs
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#19 EmilioDigsIt
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Most of it is true, some of it is outdated, and some of it is opinion.
Sadly the PS3 doesn't have enough games that I want to warrant an instant purchase. :(
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#20 -Master_St3ve-
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Nice video but how much of a loser does somone have to be to make that.
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[QUOTE="H8s2spooge"]Those are not facts. 2 are a lie, 2 are opinion, and 1 is completely stupid and doesn't even apply to any region the PS3 has been released in.

Can you guess which are which?WilliamRLBaker

*posting owange right now it will be a minute*

360 sales and wii Sales world wide

Wii 22m
360 17m
Ps3 10m

360 game scores since release game rankings

1. The Orange Box X360 EA Games 52 9.196.188%2. BioShock X360 2K Games 89 9.395.292%3. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare X360 Activision 72 9.194.069%4. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion X360 2K Games 102 9.293.875%5. Gears of War X360 Microsoft Game Studios 109 8.793.789%6. Halo 3 X360 Microsoft Game Studios 86 8.593.352%7. Rock Band X360 MTV Games 52 8.292.913%8. Guitar Hero II X360 RedOctane 58 8.191.891%9. Rez HD X360 Q Entertainment 27 7.091.074%10. Mass Effect X360 Microsoft Game Studios 75 9.290.736%11. Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter

PS3 is beating 360 worldwide for 2007.. in 2008 so far, but not in sales in NA. Also those games you list a good amount of them are multi plat.

360 did have good games though like Mass Effect and Gears of War

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#22 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="H8s2spooge"]Those are not facts. 2 are a lie, 2 are opinion, and 1 is completely stupid and doesn't even apply to any region the PS3 has been released in.

Can you guess which are which?u8muhrice

*posting owange right now it will be a minute*

360 sales and wii Sales world wide

Wii 22m
360 17m
Ps3 10m

360 game scores since release game rankings

1. The Orange Box X360 EA Games 52 9.196.188%2. BioShock X360 2K Games 89 9.395.292%3. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare X360 Activision 72 9.194.069%4. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion X360 2K Games 102 9.293.875%5. Gears of War X360 Microsoft Game Studios 109 8.793.789%6. Halo 3 X360 Microsoft Game Studios 86 8.593.352%7. Rock Band X360 MTV Games 52 8.292.913%8. Guitar Hero II X360 RedOctane 58 8.191.891%9. Rez HD X360 Q Entertainment 27 7.091.074%10. Mass Effect X360 Microsoft Game Studios 75 9.290.736%11. Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter

PS3 is beating 360 worldwide for 2007.. in 2008 so far, but not in sales in NA. Also those games you list a good amount of them are multi plat.

360 did have good games though like Mass Effect and Gears of War

look above i'm just finished that bit you quoted is only a small amount.

P.S: ps3 beat the 360 in console sales by only about 1m every thing else? 360 owned it, and it only sold that many in sales because people wanted a cheap blu ray player, and after 3 price drops, and 2 fire sale sku phase outs. if they hadn't dropped the price 3 times and kept they're original 2 sku's they wouldn't be past 10 million world wide sales still.

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#23 VideoGameGuy
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Yeah, we know the PS3 is a better blu-ray, set-top box..i think people are just waiting on some "it" games.
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#24 Snaptrap
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After reading about the failure rate with the Xbox 360, it's unlikely I'll need to see that video. If I decided to buy a serious console (PC fills that spot perfectly), it would be a PS3. I already have a Wii.
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#25 PS3nut
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Yeah, we know the PS3 is a better blu-ray, set-top box..i think people are just waiting on some "it" games.VideoGameGuy

Aside from such hit multiplatform titles like The Orange Box, Call of Duty 4, Devil May Cry 4, Fight Night RD 3, Madden, Oblivion, Burnout Paradise

We also have these great exclusives like Resistance F.O.M, Ratchet & Clank, Heavenly Sword, Unreal Tournament 3, Motorstorm,

MLB the show

These are just what i can recall at this moment but i know there's more, so what exactly are you waiting for ?

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#26 VideoGameGuy
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[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]Yeah, we know the PS3 is a better blu-ray, set-top box..i think people are just waiting on some "it" games.PS3nut

Aside from such hit multiplatform titles like The Orange Box, Call of Duty 4, Devil May Cry 4, Fight Night RD 3, Madden, Oblivion, Burnout Paradise

We also have these great exclusives like Resistance F.O.M, Ratchet & Clank, Heavenly Sword, Unreal Tournament 3, Motorstorm,

MLB the show

These are just what i can recall at this moment but i know there's more, so what exactly are you waiting for ?

hmmm... good point..a 40gb that has B/C i guess..i'm not going to buy ANOTHER PS2...
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#27 PS3nut
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[QUOTE="PS3nut"]

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]Yeah, we know the PS3 is a better blu-ray, set-top box..i think people are just waiting on some "it" games.VideoGameGuy

Aside from such hit multiplatform titles like The Orange Box, Call of Duty 4, Devil May Cry 4, Fight Night RD 3, Madden, Oblivion, Burnout Paradise

We also have these great exclusives like Resistance F.O.M, Ratchet & Clank, Heavenly Sword, Unreal Tournament 3, Motorstorm,

MLB the show

These are just what i can recall at this moment but i know there's more, so what exactly are you waiting for ?

hmmm... good point..a 40gb that has B/C i guess..i'm not going to buy ANOTHER PS2...

You don't have to i found a brand new 60gig on ebay recently which used to sell new for $599.00, i got it for $485.00 and their still out there and they have the PS2 chipset in them so there's your backwards compatibility in addition to the extra sd card slots and usb ports.

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#28 SeanBond
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At the end of the day, the final test of a game console is its games. The PS3 is undoubtedly a better deal hardware-wise than the 360, but buying a PS3 won't get you the game library that the 360 has. Whether or not this will continue to be true, the 360 is closer to the PS2 of this generation than the PS3 is--Both the 360 and PS2 had/have hardware problems, but both also had excellent 3rd party support, which, in the case of the PS2, combined with price drops lead to the dominance that Sony took for granted. The 360 isn't quite there yet; its price is still way too high (not the sub-$200 price point that began the PS2's explosion), and it would still benefit from some shoring-up on the hardware front, but it hasn't started too badly, and MS still has a lot of tricks up its sleeve.
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He sounds like he's twelve.

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#30 aussieboy911
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i dont need to put music or movies on my console. i want to play games. all he said is how it does multimedia stuff that ill never use.

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#31 ChinoJamesKeene
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Sounds great at playing and sharing content, too bad i already have a computer.
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#32 PS3nut
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He sounds like he's twelve.

Stevo_the_gamer

If he is twelve, then how sad is that ?, because that means even a twelve year old knows all the facts on which console is the true champ and all the facts that support why it is, and you older 360 guy's don't, pretty pathetic don't you think?

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#33 dipper145
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This kid in the video reminds me of VenomfangX, if anyone knows who he is, and how much of an embarassment he is.


The truly sad part though, is this probably 14 year old kid, decided to waste hours of his life to make a 9 minute video defending his purchase of a ps3. It's like he has something that he has to proove to himself, and by making this video he is just trying to convince his subconsious that he made the right purchase. He is filled with doubt, and uncertainty. I pity this person, and hope he comes to the realization that the only person he is fooling is, sadly, himself.

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[QUOTE="H8s2spooge"]Those are not facts. 2 are a lie, 2 are opinion, and 1 is completely stupid and doesn't even apply to any region the PS3 has been released in.

Can you guess which are which?WilliamRLBaker

*posting owange right now it will be a minute*

360 sales and wii Sales world wide

Wii 22m
360 17m
Ps3 10m

360 game scores since release game rankings

1. The Orange Box X360 EA Games 52 9.196.188%2. BioShock X360 2K Games 89 9.395.292%3. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare X360 Activision 72 9.194.069%4. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion X360 2K Games 102 9.293.875%5. Gears of War X360 Microsoft Game Studios 109 8.793.789%6. Halo 3 X360 Microsoft Game Studios 86 8.593.352%7. Rock Band X360 MTV Games 52 8.292.913%8. Guitar Hero II X360 RedOctane 58 8.191.891%9. Rez HD X360 Q Entertainment 27 7.091.074%10. Mass Effect X360 Microsoft Game Studios 75 9.290.736%11. Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter

Wii game scores since release gamerankings

1. Super Mario Galaxy WII Nintendo 66 8.997.191%2. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess WII Nintendo 81 9.293.907%3. Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition WII Capcom 58 8.890.960%

Ps3 game scores since release gamerankings

1. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare PS3 Activision 43 7.893.621%2. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion PS3 Bethesda Softworks 53 7.793.189%3. Rock Band PS3 MTV Games 26 --90.892%

Game sales since release vgchartz
360
1 Halo 3 Microsoft 57,257 7.14 7.37m
2 Gears Of War Microsoft 19,712 7.81 5.04m
3 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Activision 26,564 7.07 5.03m
4 Forza Motorsport 2 Microsoft 17,544 7.74 3.64m
5 Assassins Creed Ubisoft 19,130 7.48 3.49m
6 Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock RedOctane 7,890 7.54 2.43m
7 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 2k Games 8,934 7.84 2.40m
8 Marvel: Ultimate Alliance Activision 6,496 6.55 2.38m
9 Madden NFL 08 EA Sports 4,980 7.49 2.15m
10 Tom Clancy Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter Ubisoft 2,434 7.33 2.12m
11 Tom Clancy Rainbow Six: Vegas Ubisoft 4,140 7.41 2.08m
12 Call of Duty 2 Activision 2,586 6.30 2.02m
13 Call of Duty 3 Spike 2,994 5.50 1.97m
14 Guitar Hero II RedOctane 4,180 7.21 1.96m
15 Madden NFL 07 EA 1,735 5.29 1.80m
16 Saints Row THQ 2,615 7.34 1.69m
17 Fight Night Round 3 EA 1,836 5.82 1.65m
18 Dead Rising Capcom 4,460 7.52 1.63m
19 Bioshock 2K Games 24,779 7.83 1.63m
20 Mass Effect Microsoft 22,583 7.74 1.60m
21 Crackdown Microsoft 3,533 7.35 1.42m
22 Lost Planet: Extreme Condition Capcom 4,699 6.91 1.41m
23 Perfect Dark Zero Microsoft 2,957 6.57 1.37m
24 Project Gotham Racing 3 Microsoft 1,886 6.51 1.35m
25 Need for Speed: Most Wanted EA 762 7.14 1.34m
26 Tom Clancy Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 Ubisoft 2,017 7.53 1.31m
27 Need for Speed: Carbon EA 1,232 3.83 1.26m
28 Viva Pinata Microsoft 4,873 7.04 1.18m
29 Need for Speed: ProStreet EA 3,615 7.00 1.13m
30 Tom Clancy Splinter Cell: Double Agent Ubisoft 2,070 6.48 1.13m
31 WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2008 THQ 2,085 6.76 1.09m
32 Pro Evolution Soccer 6 Konami 861 6.20 1.08m
33 FIFA 08 EA Sports 2,019 7.32 1.05m
34 Dead or Alive 4 Tecmo 2,977 7.32 1.01m

Wii
1 Wii Sports Nintendo 37,800 7.84 19.68m
2 Wii Play Nintendo 19,815 6.83 10.41m
3 Super Mario Galaxy Nintendo 112,567 8.23 5.95m
4 Mario Party 8 Nintendo 21,207 7.49 4.76m
5 The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Nintendo 28,795 8.35 4.67m
6 Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games Sega 34,754 7.73 3.38m
7 Wario Ware: Smooth Moves Nintendo 5,480 7.40 2.26m
8 Super Paper Mario Nintendo 13,004 7.87 2.22m
9 Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree Nintendo 7,407 7.45 2.16m
10 Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock RedOctane 11,847 7.74 1.88m
11 Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition Capcom 42,539 8.13 1.64m
12 Wii Fit Nintendo 20,093 7.81 1.63m
13 Mario Strikers Charged Nintendo 13,934 7.85 1.49m
14 Super Smash Bros Brawl Nintendo 29,401 8.08 1.45m
15 Link's Crossbow Training Nintendo 10,079 7.34 1.36m
16 Rayman Raving Rabbids Ubisoft 5,664 7.63 1.28m
17 Metroid Prime 3: Corruption Nintendo 43,658 8.17 1.21m
18 Carnival Games Global Star 7,175 7.18 1.19m
19 Sonic and the Secret Rings Sega 8,577 7.75 1.18m
20 Red Steel Ubisoft 4,517 7.01 1.04m

Ps3
1 Motorstorm Sony 17,929 7.57 2.78m
2 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Activision 21,049 7.73 2.52m
3 Resistance: Fall of Man Sony 20,862 7.83 2.39m
4 Assassins Creed Ubisoft 21,701 7.62 2.31m
5 Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 Konami 8,984 7.53 1.33m
6 Uncharted: Drakes Fortune Sony 71,325 8.00 1.29m
7 FIFA 08 EA Sports 4,913 7.26 1.17m
8 Need for Speed: ProStreet EA 6,879 6.93 1.06m

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ps3 has world wide 10 million sales in consoles, they have only at last count 3-4million users on a free service.

Xbox 360 has 17 million sales in consoles, they have 10 million xbox live users a paid service....

I think i've posted enough.

First VG charts...NOT CREDIBLE.

Second, MS already anounced they had 15+mil live subscriberes(during last GDC) and before that at the CES, Gates said they had 14+mil live subscribers.

Third 360 had 17 mil in january and it has since passed that mark and sold about 18.5mil(source: your own VG Charts !)

Fourth The PS3 has shipped about 10mil consoles, but it sold around 9.6mil worldwide(Source:VG charts and Gamespot last quartar report)

Fifth So both system are selling good, but what does that do for us? Why does it matter if PS3 games are not seling or if its not AAA, they are still GAMES and they are meant to be PLAYED(beyond), not argued with. Say a game is good(Okami), but didn't sell, will you still avoid it because you can't argue its sales, or will you buy it for the sake of enjoyment(what the consoles represent).

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#35 Memoryitis
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Wow that youtube vid is very convincing, seriously, we have to pay 100$ for the wireless connection and 60$ online

thing is I just wouldnt of been able to live with myself without Halo 3, you can say I bought the 360 because of Halo 3 at that time but now... eh

Maybe Ill just buy all 3 systems

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[QUOTE="H8s2spooge"]Those are not facts. 2 are a lie, 2 are opinion, and 1 is completely stupid and doesn't even apply to any region the PS3 has been released in.

Can you guess which are which?WilliamRLBaker

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360 sales and wii Sales world wide

Wii 22m
360 17m
Ps3 10m

360 game scores since release game rankings

1. The Orange Box X360 EA Games 52 9.196.188%2. BioShock X360 2K Games 89 9.395.292%3. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare X360 Activision 72 9.194.069%4. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion X360 2K Games 102 9.293.875%5. Gears of War X360 Microsoft Game Studios 109 8.793.789%6. Halo 3 X360 Microsoft Game Studios 86 8.593.352%7. Rock Band X360 MTV Games 52 8.292.913%8. Guitar Hero II X360 RedOctane 58 8.191.891%9. Rez HD X360 Q Entertainment 27 7.091.074%10. Mass Effect X360 Microsoft Game Studios 75 9.290.736%11. Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter

Wii game scores since release gamerankings

1. Super Mario Galaxy WII Nintendo 66 8.997.191%2. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess WII Nintendo 81 9.293.907%3. Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition WII Capcom 58 8.890.960%

Ps3 game scores since release gamerankings

1. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare PS3 Activision 43 7.893.621%2. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion PS3 Bethesda Softworks 53 7.793.189%3. Rock Band PS3 MTV Games 26 --90.892%

Game sales since release vgchartz
360
1 Halo 3 Microsoft 57,257 7.14 7.37m
2 Gears Of War Microsoft 19,712 7.81 5.04m
3 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Activision 26,564 7.07 5.03m
4 Forza Motorsport 2 Microsoft 17,544 7.74 3.64m
5 Assassins Creed Ubisoft 19,130 7.48 3.49m
6 Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock RedOctane 7,890 7.54 2.43m
7 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 2k Games 8,934 7.84 2.40m
8 Marvel: Ultimate Alliance Activision 6,496 6.55 2.38m
9 Madden NFL 08 EA Sports 4,980 7.49 2.15m
10 Tom Clancy Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter Ubisoft 2,434 7.33 2.12m
11 Tom Clancy Rainbow Six: Vegas Ubisoft 4,140 7.41 2.08m
12 Call of Duty 2 Activision 2,586 6.30 2.02m
13 Call of Duty 3 Spike 2,994 5.50 1.97m
14 Guitar Hero II RedOctane 4,180 7.21 1.96m
15 Madden NFL 07 EA 1,735 5.29 1.80m
16 Saints Row THQ 2,615 7.34 1.69m
17 Fight Night Round 3 EA 1,836 5.82 1.65m
18 Dead Rising Capcom 4,460 7.52 1.63m
19 Bioshock 2K Games 24,779 7.83 1.63m
20 Mass Effect Microsoft 22,583 7.74 1.60m
21 Crackdown Microsoft 3,533 7.35 1.42m
22 Lost Planet: Extreme Condition Capcom 4,699 6.91 1.41m
23 Perfect Dark Zero Microsoft 2,957 6.57 1.37m
24 Project Gotham Racing 3 Microsoft 1,886 6.51 1.35m
25 Need for Speed: Most Wanted EA 762 7.14 1.34m
26 Tom Clancy Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 Ubisoft 2,017 7.53 1.31m
27 Need for Speed: Carbon EA 1,232 3.83 1.26m
28 Viva Pinata Microsoft 4,873 7.04 1.18m
29 Need for Speed: ProStreet EA 3,615 7.00 1.13m
30 Tom Clancy Splinter Cell: Double Agent Ubisoft 2,070 6.48 1.13m
31 WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2008 THQ 2,085 6.76 1.09m
32 Pro Evolution Soccer 6 Konami 861 6.20 1.08m
33 FIFA 08 EA Sports 2,019 7.32 1.05m
34 Dead or Alive 4 Tecmo 2,977 7.32 1.01m

Wii
1 Wii Sports Nintendo 37,800 7.84 19.68m
2 Wii Play Nintendo 19,815 6.83 10.41m
3 Super Mario Galaxy Nintendo 112,567 8.23 5.95m
4 Mario Party 8 Nintendo 21,207 7.49 4.76m
5 The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Nintendo 28,795 8.35 4.67m
6 Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games Sega 34,754 7.73 3.38m
7 Wario Ware: Smooth Moves Nintendo 5,480 7.40 2.26m
8 Super Paper Mario Nintendo 13,004 7.87 2.22m
9 Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree Nintendo 7,407 7.45 2.16m
10 Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock RedOctane 11,847 7.74 1.88m
11 Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition Capcom 42,539 8.13 1.64m
12 Wii Fit Nintendo 20,093 7.81 1.63m
13 Mario Strikers Charged Nintendo 13,934 7.85 1.49m
14 Super Smash Bros Brawl Nintendo 29,401 8.08 1.45m
15 Link's Crossbow Training Nintendo 10,079 7.34 1.36m
16 Rayman Raving Rabbids Ubisoft 5,664 7.63 1.28m
17 Metroid Prime 3: Corruption Nintendo 43,658 8.17 1.21m
18 Carnival Games Global Star 7,175 7.18 1.19m
19 Sonic and the Secret Rings Sega 8,577 7.75 1.18m
20 Red Steel Ubisoft 4,517 7.01 1.04m

Ps3
1 Motorstorm Sony 17,929 7.57 2.78m
2 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Activision 21,049 7.73 2.52m
3 Resistance: Fall of Man Sony 20,862 7.83 2.39m
4 Assassins Creed Ubisoft 21,701 7.62 2.31m
5 Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 Konami 8,984 7.53 1.33m
6 Uncharted: Drakes Fortune Sony 71,325 8.00 1.29m
7 FIFA 08 EA Sports 4,913 7.26 1.17m
8 Need for Speed: ProStreet EA 6,879 6.93 1.06m

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ps3 has world wide 10 million sales in consoles, they have only at last count 3-4million users on a free service.

Xbox 360 has 17 million sales in consoles, they have 10 million xbox live users a paid service....

I think i've posted enough.

Ok, the main and only reason the 360 sold as many units as it did it's first year out was because it was the only next gen system out for an entire year, which is exactly why it got a jump on the online subscribers as well.

Look what you wrote the 360 has sold 17 million in consoles thus far and the PS3 10 million in console sales, well thats pretty damn good for Sony since the PS3 has only been out half the time that the 360 has don't ya' think.

By the way since the 360 has been out longer it stands to reason that it has more games, which are playable on live, Sony's games whether exclusive or multiplatform are played online but they just don't have the quantity of the 360's library because of the 360 1 year headstart.

So please factor in all the logical reasons for the difference in sales totals and online subscribers before posting because the time frame here is a major fact that you left out.

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OMG Michael Jackson is a cow
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#38 jmdude
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[QUOTE="Pokeratxbox"]

My god....i've been convinced. i will sell my 360 and my 20 games for a ps3

I not sarcastic, i really am

PS3nut

Actually whether your being sarcastic or not, i think 360 owners should seriously re-think their console after seeing and hearing all these facts that most of them probably weren't aware of, because as a consumer knowing what i learned from these video's i would never buy a 360.

same here
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#39 DXGreat1_HGL
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Wow that youtube vid is very convincing, seriously, we have to pay 100$ for the wireless connection and 60$ online

thing is I just wouldnt of been able to live with myself without Halo 3, you can say I bought the 360 because of Halo 3 at that time but now... eh

Maybe Ill just buy all 3 systems

Memoryitis

Or you can just us wired connection and have better speed. Seriously, this video is a major joke.

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#40 DXGreat1_HGL
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[QUOTE="PS3nut"][QUOTE="Pokeratxbox"]

My god....i've been convinced. i will sell my 360 and my 20 games for a ps3

I not sarcastic, i really am

jmdude

Actually whether your being sarcastic or not, i think 360 owners should seriously re-think their console after seeing and hearing all these facts that most of them probably weren't aware of, because as a consumer knowing what i learned from these video's i would never buy a 360.

same here

What a shock, cows won't buy a 360. Instead they'll just post their fabricated RROD stories in here because they are too bored with their PS3's...

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[QUOTE="PS3nut"][QUOTE="Pokeratxbox"]

My god....i've been convinced. i will sell my 360 and my 20 games for a ps3

I not sarcastic, i really am

WilliamRLBaker

Actually whether your being sarcastic or not, i think 360 owners should seriously re-think their console after seeing and hearing all these facts that most of them probably weren't aware of, because as a consumer knowing what i learned from these video's i would never buy a 360.

facts so far....ps3 is geting killed in scores, sales and games by 360 and wii, Its free online service is geting killed by a payfor service.

Its 14 months old and has no AAA or AAAE titles.

who cares about scores? those who are dependent and the ones who cannot choose on what game to buy.
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Ok, the main and only reason the 360 sold as many units as it did it's first year out was because it was the only next gen system out for an entire year, which is exactly why it got a jump on the online subscribers as well.

Look what you wrote the 360 has sold 17 million in consoles thus far and the PS3 10 million in console sales, well thats pretty damn good for Sony since the PS3 has only been out half the time that the 360 has don't ya' think.

By the way since the 360 has been out longer it stands to reason that it has more games, which are playable on live, Sony's games whether exclusive or multiplatform are played online but they just don't have the quantity of the 360's library because of the 360 1 year headstart.

So please factor in all the logical reasons for the difference in sales totals and online subscribers before posting because the time frame here is a major fact that you left out.

PS3nut

lol logical reason? ps3nut you never use logic you have been caught many times in the past saying PSN was better then xbox live for one reason alone and thats cause its FREE.
So now your gonna use logic?

heres logic for you

ITS A FACT 360 has 17 m users world wide, ITs a FACT it has 10 million people on xbox live a Pay service
ITs a Fact ps3 has 10 million sales world wide, ITs a fact on its FREE service it only has 3-4 million users.

It takes less then 2 minutes to sign up for psn...so why are so many not signing up for it? your logic is cow logic and cow logic is flawed like all fanboy logic, Face it the ps3 is geting its ass kicked by both the wii and the 360 and thats a fact.

First VG charts...NOT CREDIBLE.

Second, MS already anounced they had 15+mil live subscriberes(during last GDC) and before that at the CES, Gates said they had 14+mil live subscribers.

Third 360 had 17 mil in january and it has since passed that mark and sold about 18.5mil(source: your own VG Charts !)

Fourth The PS3 has shipped about 10mil consoles, but it sold around 9.6mil worldwide(Source:VG charts and Gamespot last quartar report)

Fifth So both system are selling good, but what does that do for us? Why does it matter if PS3 games are not seling or if its not AAA, they are still GAMES and they are meant to be PLAYED(beyond), not argued with. Say a game is good(Okami), but didn't sell, will you still avoid it because you can't argue its sales, or will you buy it for the sake of enjoyment(what the consoles represent).

bigevil_rashek

LOL its not credible unless it proves your point you mean, because its been proven time and time again that based upon NPD data that VGchartz is damn accurate, and what other source can you site for somewhat accurate numbers? none? thought so..

15m+ thats good to hear just reenforces my argument that 17m consoles sold with 15 million users mean alot of people love xbox live.

10 million units sold with only 3-4 million psn users means alot of people just dont like psn.

Source my own VGchartz? lets look at the VGchartz front page.
17.37m....for the 360...hmmm weird...if the 360 is at 18.5m why isn't it on the front page?

and Oh you mean its only sold 9.5m? wow thats even worse for the fact that psn users are only at 3-4m.

And sorry but you can totally argue that a games worth is in sales alone, People aren't so stupid that they just go out and buy a game take it home and then it sux and they keep it, Most people take the game back if its so bad its unplayable. half of all game sales are marketing you market your product get people to know about it and they will buy it, Okami didn't sell because they didn't market it right or at all.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

He sounds like he's twelve.

PS3nut

If he is twelve, then how sad is that ?, because that means even a twelve year old knows all the facts on which console is the true champ and all the facts that support why it is, and you older 360 guy's don't, pretty pathetic don't you think?

He was talking about you........

:lol:

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[QUOTE="H8s2spooge"]Those are not facts. 2 are a lie, 2 are opinion, and 1 is completely stupid and doesn't even apply to any region the PS3 has been released in.

Can you guess which are which?WilliamRLBaker

*posting owange right now it will be a minute*

360 sales and wii Sales world wide

Wii 22m
360 17m
Ps3 10m

360 game scores since release game rankings

1. The Orange Box X360 EA Games 52 9.196.188%2. BioShock X360 2K Games 89 9.395.292%3. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare X360 Activision 72 9.194.069%4. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion X360 2K Games 102 9.293.875%5. Gears of War X360 Microsoft Game Studios 109 8.793.789%6. Halo 3 X360 Microsoft Game Studios 86 8.593.352%7. Rock Band X360 MTV Games 52 8.292.913%8. Guitar Hero II X360 RedOctane 58 8.191.891%9. Rez HD X360 Q Entertainment 27 7.091.074%10. Mass Effect X360 Microsoft Game Studios 75 9.290.736%11. Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter

Wii game scores since release gamerankings

1. Super Mario Galaxy WII Nintendo 66 8.997.191%2. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess WII Nintendo 81 9.293.907%3. Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition WII Capcom 58 8.890.960%

Ps3 game scores since release gamerankings

1. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare PS3 Activision 43 7.893.621%2. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion PS3 Bethesda Softworks 53 7.793.189%3. Rock Band PS3 MTV Games 26 --90.892%

Game sales since release vgchartz
360
1 Halo 3 Microsoft 57,257 7.14 7.37m
2 Gears Of War Microsoft 19,712 7.81 5.04m
3 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Activision 26,564 7.07 5.03m
4 Forza Motorsport 2 Microsoft 17,544 7.74 3.64m
5 Assassins Creed Ubisoft 19,130 7.48 3.49m
6 Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock RedOctane 7,890 7.54 2.43m
7 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 2k Games 8,934 7.84 2.40m
8 Marvel: Ultimate Alliance Activision 6,496 6.55 2.38m
9 Madden NFL 08 EA Sports 4,980 7.49 2.15m
10 Tom Clancy Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter Ubisoft 2,434 7.33 2.12m
11 Tom Clancy Rainbow Six: Vegas Ubisoft 4,140 7.41 2.08m
12 Call of Duty 2 Activision 2,586 6.30 2.02m
13 Call of Duty 3 Spike 2,994 5.50 1.97m
14 Guitar Hero II RedOctane 4,180 7.21 1.96m
15 Madden NFL 07 EA 1,735 5.29 1.80m
16 Saints Row THQ 2,615 7.34 1.69m
17 Fight Night Round 3 EA 1,836 5.82 1.65m
18 Dead Rising Capcom 4,460 7.52 1.63m
19 Bioshock 2K Games 24,779 7.83 1.63m
20 Mass Effect Microsoft 22,583 7.74 1.60m
21 Crackdown Microsoft 3,533 7.35 1.42m
22 Lost Planet: Extreme Condition Capcom 4,699 6.91 1.41m
23 Perfect Dark Zero Microsoft 2,957 6.57 1.37m
24 Project Gotham Racing 3 Microsoft 1,886 6.51 1.35m
25 Need for Speed: Most Wanted EA 762 7.14 1.34m
26 Tom Clancy Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 Ubisoft 2,017 7.53 1.31m
27 Need for Speed: Carbon EA 1,232 3.83 1.26m
28 Viva Pinata Microsoft 4,873 7.04 1.18m
29 Need for Speed: ProStreet EA 3,615 7.00 1.13m
30 Tom Clancy Splinter Cell: Double Agent Ubisoft 2,070 6.48 1.13m
31 WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2008 THQ 2,085 6.76 1.09m
32 Pro Evolution Soccer 6 Konami 861 6.20 1.08m
33 FIFA 08 EA Sports 2,019 7.32 1.05m
34 Dead or Alive 4 Tecmo 2,977 7.32 1.01m

Wii
1 Wii Sports Nintendo 37,800 7.84 19.68m
2 Wii Play Nintendo 19,815 6.83 10.41m
3 Super Mario Galaxy Nintendo 112,567 8.23 5.95m
4 Mario Party 8 Nintendo 21,207 7.49 4.76m
5 The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Nintendo 28,795 8.35 4.67m
6 Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games Sega 34,754 7.73 3.38m
7 Wario Ware: Smooth Moves Nintendo 5,480 7.40 2.26m
8 Super Paper Mario Nintendo 13,004 7.87 2.22m
9 Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree Nintendo 7,407 7.45 2.16m
10 Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock RedOctane 11,847 7.74 1.88m
11 Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition Capcom 42,539 8.13 1.64m
12 Wii Fit Nintendo 20,093 7.81 1.63m
13 Mario Strikers Charged Nintendo 13,934 7.85 1.49m
14 Super Smash Bros Brawl Nintendo 29,401 8.08 1.45m
15 Link's Crossbow Training Nintendo 10,079 7.34 1.36m
16 Rayman Raving Rabbids Ubisoft 5,664 7.63 1.28m
17 Metroid Prime 3: Corruption Nintendo 43,658 8.17 1.21m
18 Carnival Games Global Star 7,175 7.18 1.19m
19 Sonic and the Secret Rings Sega 8,577 7.75 1.18m
20 Red Steel Ubisoft 4,517 7.01 1.04m

Ps3
1 Motorstorm Sony 17,929 7.57 2.78m
2 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Activision 21,049 7.73 2.52m
3 Resistance: Fall of Man Sony 20,862 7.83 2.39m
4 Assassins Creed Ubisoft 21,701 7.62 2.31m
5 Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 Konami 8,984 7.53 1.33m
6 Uncharted: Drakes Fortune Sony 71,325 8.00 1.29m
7 FIFA 08 EA Sports 4,913 7.26 1.17m
8 Need for Speed: ProStreet EA 6,879 6.93 1.06m

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ps3 has world wide 10 million sales in consoles, they have only at last count 3-4million users on a free service.

Xbox 360 has 17 million sales in consoles, they have 10 million xbox live users a paid service....

I think i've posted enough.

the reason why the PS3 has only 10M units sold is because it is released a year after the 360 and the price is too high for the majority of the gamers to afford. The reason why the wii has 22 M units sold in just a year is because it gained so much popularity and costs lesser than the other two competing systems. The reason why the wii surpassed the 360 in sales is because the games on the wii are way better than the 360 and because of the RROD.

If i missed something kindly add

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the reason why the PS3 has only 10M units sold is because it is released a year after the 360 and the price is too high for the majority of the gamers to afford. The reason why the wii has 22 M units sold in just a year is because it gained so much popularity and costs lesser than the other two competing systems. The reason why the wii surpassed the 360 in sales is because the games on the wii are way better than the 360 and because of the RROD.jmdude

Lets see who was it that made out the ps3 was a super computer? sony
Who was it that showed tech demo after tech demo and cgi scenes making out this is what we could expect from the ps3. sony did.

Who made out that the ps3 regardless of release would dominate the gaming scene upon release and all its games would be amazing....cows... so by that measurement not selling as much because of year later release is a poor excuse because by sony words and cow belief the ps3 should be at 30m sales by now....(and in a recent article by sony that says the 360 hasn't reached beyond the FPS audiance they expect 20 million sales a year in the next 2 years)


Oh and who cares about scores? casuals do.
Casuals make up 70-80% of this market and without the scores the casuals will not buy the system or the games, Without casuals the ps3 will fail. if scores and reviews made no difference then there would be no money in it, and therefor they would not review games or give them scores.

Reviews, SCores, Word of mouth have been around since the dawn of humanity without it URG would not have found out about the great hunting grounds Darg visited back in the stone age.

And without good scores and good reviews casuals will not buy a system or its games.

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#46 Memoryitis
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Yea Sony made a big mistake by putting the PS3 for 600$ which scared the crap out of people, but now that they dropped the price I think the Ps3 will sell just as many as the 360

Wii surpassed because of the cheaper price, the games are intended for a younger audience and MOTION SENSING

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#47 SpruceCaboose
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So, Microsoft is like the Illuminati now? :roll:
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#48 bigevil_rashek
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[QUOTE="PS3nut"]

Ok, the main and only reason the 360 sold as many units as it did it's first year out was because it was the only next gen system out for an entire year, which is exactly why it got a jump on the online subscribers as well.

Look what you wrote the 360 has sold 17 million in consoles thus far and the PS3 10 million in console sales, well thats pretty damn good for Sony since the PS3 has only been out half the time that the 360 has don't ya' think.

By the way since the 360 has been out longer it stands to reason that it has more games, which are playable on live, Sony's games whether exclusive or multiplatform are played online but they just don't have the quantity of the 360's library because of the 360 1 year headstart.

So please factor in all the logical reasons for the difference in sales totals and online subscribers before posting because the time frame here is a major fact that you left out.

WilliamRLBaker

lol logical reason? ps3nut you never use logic you have been caught many times in the past saying PSN was better then xbox live for one reason alone and thats cause its FREE.
So now your gonna use logic?

heres logic for you

ITS A FACT 360 has 17 m users world wide, ITs a FACT it has 10 million people on xbox live a Pay service
ITs a Fact ps3 has 10 million sales world wide, ITs a fact on its FREE service it only has 3-4 million users.

It takes less then 2 minutes to sign up for psn...so why are so many not signing up for it? your logic is cow logic and cow logic is flawed like all fanboy logic, Face it the ps3 is geting its ass kicked by both the wii and the 360 and thats a fact.

First VG charts...NOT CREDIBLE.

Second, MS already anounced they had 15+mil live subscriberes(during last GDC) and before that at the CES, Gates said they had 14+mil live subscribers.

Third 360 had 17 mil in january and it has since passed that mark and sold about 18.5mil(source: your own VG Charts !)

Fourth The PS3 has shipped about 10mil consoles, but it sold around 9.6mil worldwide(Source:VG charts and Gamespot last quartar report)

Fifth So both system are selling good, but what does that do for us? Why does it matter if PS3 games are not seling or if its not AAA, they are still GAMES and they are meant to be PLAYED(beyond), not argued with. Say a game is good(Okami), but didn't sell, will you still avoid it because you can't argue its sales, or will you buy it for the sake of enjoyment(what the consoles represent).

bigevil_rashek

LOL its not credible unless it proves your point you mean, because its been proven time and time again that based upon NPD data that VGchartz is damn accurate, and what other source can you site for somewhat accurate numbers? none? thought so..

15m+ thats good to hear just reenforces my argument that 17m consoles sold with 15 million users mean alot of people love xbox live.

10 million units sold with only 3-4 million psn users means alot of people just dont like psn.

Source my own VGchartz? lets look at the VGchartz front page.
17.37m....for the 360...hmmm weird...if the 360 is at 18.5m why isn't it on the front page?

and Oh you mean its only sold 9.5m? wow thats even worse for the fact that psn users are only at 3-4m.

And sorry but you can totally argue that a games worth is in sales alone, People aren't so stupid that they just go out and buy a game take it home and then it sux and they keep it, Most people take the game back if its so bad its unplayable. half of all game sales are marketing you market your product get people to know about it and they will buy it, Okami didn't sell because they didn't market it right or at all.

Damn, i could've sworn i saw 18.5mil 360 lead a few days back.......just proves my point its not very accurate. They shift their numbers the day NPD sales are revealed, thats why they seem to have accurate predictions of past months. And i just used VG charts to get to fanboys.

And you are wrong, a game's worth cannot be aseen by sales. Reemember 50cent bullet proof? The game got heavy marketing but was ver, very poor, but it sold very well(about 2mil) due to marketing and the 50cent name....while Psychonauts was a very good game and sold poorly the same year, despite being a good game. Many bad games sell well due to marketing and good games fail becuase of it.

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#49 jmdude
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[QUOTE="jmdude"]the reason why the PS3 has only 10M units sold is because it is released a year after the 360 and the price is too high for the majority of the gamers to afford. The reason why the wii has 22 M units sold in just a year is because it gained so much popularity and costs lesser than the other two competing systems. The reason why the wii surpassed the 360 in sales is because the games on the wii are way better than the 360 and because of the RROD.WilliamRLBaker

Lets see who was it that made out the ps3 was a super computer? sony
Who was it that showed tech demo after tech demo and cgi scenes making out this is what we could expect from the ps3. sony did.

Who made out that the ps3 regardless of release would dominate the gaming scene upon release and all its games would be amazing....cows... so by that measurement not selling as much because of year later release is a poor excuse because by sony words and cow belief the ps3 should be at 30m sales by now....(and in a recent article by sony that says the 360 hasn't reached beyond the FPS audiance they expect 20 million sales a year in the next 2 years)


Oh and who cares about scores? casuals do.
Casuals make up 70-80% of this market and without the scores the casuals will not buy the system or the games, Without casuals the ps3 will fail. if scores and reviews made no difference then there would be no money in it, and therefor they would not review games or give them scores.

Reviews, SCores, Word of mouth have been around since the dawn of humanity without it URG would not have found out about the great hunting grounds Darg visited back in the stone age.

And without good scores and good reviews casuals will not buy a system or its games.

hmm.....good point
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#50 LordQuorthon
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He sounds like he's twelve. Plus, he has the most annoying voice ever. I just want to kick him in the face at least four hours so he won't be able to say anything for the rest of his life.

Stevo_the_gamer

Fixed it for you. Also, this has nothing to do with the PS3. If anything, I actually respect Sony more than Microsoft.