Every American should be pulling for MS and the Xbox 360 to win

Every American on this forum should be cheering for MS and the 360 to win this gen and every gen there after. The reason why is simple, Microsoft is an American company. Sony and Nintendo are both based out of Japan. We are in the middle of a world wide recession and if you want your parents to have jobs and pay for your internet you should be rooting for any company that is based out of the USA.

Before you make the arguement that "they are all made in Taiwan or China anyways"you need to understand something about the ecconomy. When a company is headquartered out of the US (or any other country) then the majority of the revenue ends up in this country. Steve Balmer, for example,the current CEO of MS made 1.35 million last year and that's actually a pretty low paid CEO. All the top executives and even the middle managment make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year if not millions. A well paid factory worker in Taiwan will make $5800 dollars a year. That means that 232 people in Taiwan could live off what Steve Balmer makes alone. The majoirty of the money that those MS execs make is then spent in the US and gets circulated to other people in the US.

Japan is going through a recession also, anyways if MS somehow wins it won't drive us out of it.

Japan is going through a recession also, anyways if MS some how wins it won't drive us out of it.

Yandere

Lol we should support an american company that pays the chineese to build their console for probably less than 4 dollars an hour.

Doesn't MS just outsource stuff anyway?

why when Microsoft has all there tech support in india and consoles made in china?stereointegrity

So who do I root for? I'm neither American or Japanese! :shock:

Sorry I ain't a proud american, this country can go destroy itself for all I care. Japan gets my money.

[QUOTE="Yandere"]

Japan is going through a recession also, anyways if MS some how wins it won't drive us out of it.

Firelore29

Every American on this forum should be cheering for MS and the 360 to win this gen and every gen there after. The reason why is simple, Microsoft is an American company. Sony and Nintendo are both based out of Japan. We are in the middle of a world wide recession and if you want your parents to have jobs and pay for your internet you should be rooting for any company that is based out of the USA.

Before you make the arguement that "they are all made in Taiwan or China anyways"you need to understand something about the ecconomy. When a company is headquartered out of the US (or any other country) then the majority of the revenue ends up in this country. Steve Balmer, for example,the current CEO of MS made 1.35 million last year and that's actually a pretty low paid CEO. All the top executives and even the middle managment make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year if not millions. A well paid factory worker in Taiwan will make $5800 dollars a year. That means that 232 people in Taiwan could live off what Steve Balmer makes alone. The majoirty of the money that those MS execs make is then spent in the US and gets circulated to other people in the US.

Firelore29

Yeah but the key is as you said, its a worldwide recession. We should be rooting for every company to succeed cuz its we're all part of the global economy. Besides, Sony and Nintendo employs a lot of US citizens anyways.

why when Microsoft has all there tech support in india and consoles made in china?stereointegrity

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]why when Microsoft has all there tech support in india and consoles made in china?shadow8585

So who do I root for? I'm neither American or Japanese! :shock:

Rob-Belmont

[QUOTE="shadow8585"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]why when Microsoft has all there tech support in india and consoles made in china?Animal-Mother

Shouldn't the argument then be to buy games from American developers to help them? God knows they need it more than a massive corporation like Microsoft...

Your argument worked in 1912. Now there is what we like to call the "global economy" Easy analogy: "what is good for the goose is good for the gander" or "butterfly effect" ... What effects Japan (or any other country) affects us-we are tied to other countries That is why the downturn that started here is having global ramifications We should be rooting for the success of ALL our trading partners ... For the slow people: we need people in Japan to prosper so that they can afford to buy 360's and they need us to prosper so we can buy PS3'srawsavon

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]why when Microsoft has all there tech support in india and consoles made in china?shadow8585

Its a Global Recession not just a US reccession.

lol, wow this thread was epic fail.

I am from America but don't really consider myself much of an American. More of a human being just like everyone else. Why do we let the invisible lines we call borders let so much hate grow between all of us? who cares if your american and support another country, america isn't the only country in the world that is important. America and its companies wont always be on top, then what i can't wait to hear what my fellow American's think about their country then!

As for gaming Japan gets most of my money, because well they make things better then American companies.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="shadow8585"] You are the reason why I hate most system warers. READ THE FIRST POST OF EVERY THREAD YOU ENTER. What it comes down to, as small as a difference as it is, you are doing America better buy playin X360. Especially cause our XBL subscriptions go straight to MSFirelore29

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]Your argument worked in 1912. Now there is what we like to call the "global economy" Easy analogy: "what is good for the goose is good for the gander" or "butterfly effect" ... What effects Japan (or any other country) affects us-we are tied to other countries That is why the downturn that started here is having global ramifications We should be rooting for the success of ALL our trading partners ... For the slow people: we need people in Japan to prosper so that they can afford to buy 360's and they need us to prosper so we can buy PS3'sFirelore29

Sorry, I'm Swedish and all I care about is buying a good product for ME. With that said, I love my 360, PS3 and recently PSP.

Its a Global Recession not just a US reccession.

The__Havoc

Because they want to say expand their house? They hire on 30 workers who work on their house and they all make a good amount of money doing the work. Or they want to invest the money so they invest in a small side business here in the states. When the money is earned here it stays here and circulates to other people in the country.Firelore29

[QUOTE="Firelore29"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] And how does MS help the economy by expanding the wallets of MS fatcat CEO's?Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="Rob-Belmont"]

So who do I root for? I'm neither American or Japanese! :shock:

Firelore29

[QUOTE="The__Havoc"]

Its a Global Recession not just a US reccession.

Firelore29

Once you get older, you'll realize the world isn't so simple. Buying Microsoft products for the sake of buying American while flipping the bird to foreign companies will do nothing to aid the current economic situation, and will ultimately do more harm.

Slashkice

[QUOTE="Firelore29"] Because they want to say expand their house? They hire on 30 workers who work on their house and they all make a good amount of money doing the work. Or they want to invest the money so they invest in a small side business here in the states. When the money is earned here it stays here and circulates to other people in the country.Javy03

No offense to americans but I'm just as likely to trust my money with the japanese.

Once you get older, you'll realize the world isn't so simple. Buying Microsoft products for the sake of buying American while flipping the bird to foreign companies will do nothing to aid the current economic situation, and will ultimately do more harm.

Slashkice

Maybe if american products didn't break down so much we'd support them more ... :Pblue_hazy_basic

Every American on this forum should be cheering for MS and the 360 to win this gen and every gen there after. The reason why is simple, Microsoft is an American company. Sony and Nintendo are both based out of Japan. We are in the middle of a world wide recession and if you want your parents to have jobs and pay for your internet you should be rooting for any company that is based out of the USA.

Before you make the arguement that "they are all made in Taiwan or China anyways"you need to understand something about the ecconomy. When a company is headquartered out of the US (or any other country) then the majority of the revenue ends up in this country. Steve Balmer, for example,the current CEO of MS made 1.35 million last year and that's actually a pretty low paid CEO. All the top executives and even the middle managment make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year if not millions. A well paid factory worker in Taiwan will make $5800 dollars a year. That means that 232 people in Taiwan could live off what Steve Balmer makes alone. The majoirty of the money that those MS execs make is then spent in the US and gets circulated to other people in the US.

Firelore29

This is such an uneducated post. The "232 people" being paid $2 in hour in Asia don't spend their money in the US anyways so the US gets no benefits from them. Steve Balmer only needs what one person needs, he can only eat a certain amount of food, use a certain amount of computers, etc., etc. However, if those jobs were in the US then there would be 232 US workers buying food and buying other products so that will stimulate the economy. There is absolutely no reason to support MS in the video game industry until they bring jobs back home.

[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

Once you get older, you'll realize the world isn't so simple. Buying Microsoft products for the sake of buying American while flipping the bird to foreign companies will do nothing to aid the current economic situation, and will ultimately do more harm.

Firelore29

Do you mean that have a degree in ECONOMICS

I am going to call BS on that one

You were citing wiki earlier, not any famous economists or theories

[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="Firelore29"] Because they want to say expand their house? They hire on 30 workers who work on their house and they all make a good amount of money doing the work. Or they want to invest the money so they invest in a small side business here in the states. When the money is earned here it stays here and circulates to other people in the country.Firelore29

Proven fact?

Did you even read the Wikipedia article you posted? Trickle down economics has been criticised for decades. Even now, it's political suicide to base your policy on trickle down economics. Even Republicans, the biggest proponents of tax breaks for the rich and businesses, doesn't want to be labelled with the term.

I'm still reeling from the fact you actually believe Microsoft = good for America, Sony = good for Japan. You do realize Sony is a huge transnational company with several subsidiaries headquartered within the United States; Sony Pictures in California and Sony Music in New York.

I'm having immense difficulty believing you had a Bachelor's degree in economics.

Plus if the Xbox 360 was made in the US it would cost a hell of a lot more than it does now.

[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

Once you get older, you'll realize the world isn't so simple. Buying Microsoft products for the sake of buying American while flipping the bird to foreign companies will do nothing to aid the current economic situation, and will ultimately do more harm.

Firelore29

Let me know where you went so I don't ever make the mistake of recommending anyone to go there.

Great job spelling politician wrong twice in one post by the way, bachelor(-s?!) degree in economy(-ics?!)

Edit: fixed grammar.