@Antwan3K: what alt trio feel free to ask me if I had an account on gamespot before. the Witcher 3 is overrated, had many technical issues on PS4. I played it on ps5 had much better performance and was much more enjoyable still not that good, sword play sucks and there is more.Zelda reminds me on Dark Cloud 1 the way it looks. Have not played it myself yet not willing to pay 70$ for a ps2 game. From what i have seen it looks like crap anyone say the opposite should check their eyes. Elden Ring isn’t that good AI sucks after 50 hours of play and beating the desert boss i could not understand the praise for this game.
@Antwan3K: what alt trio feel free to ask me if I had an account on gamespot before. the Witcher 3 is overrated, had many technical issues on PS4. I played it on ps5 had much better performance and was much more enjoyable still not that good, sword play sucks and there is more.Zelda reminds me on Dark Cloud 1 the way it looks. Have not played it myself yet not willing to pay 70$ for a ps2 game. From what i have seen it looks like crap anyone say the opposite should check their eyes. Elden Ring isn’t that good AI sucks after 50 hours of play and beating the desert boss i could not understand the praise for this game.
It is not false. They can't and they won't leave UK. MS needs ask shareholders for that. And shareholders LOVES THEIR MONEY or else, they will lose BILLIONS!!
Mentioned before in other thread and Xbox peeps specifically ignore that :
Problem is for Microsoft is that the UK is already by far the biggest AI hub for investment in Europe and a leading AAA gaming hub globally as well. Bobby Kotick and Nadella know this first hand. UK ruling is a worldwide ruling, no matter what the Xbox peeps are saying. It's a worldwide rulling because Microsoft cannot pull from the UK.
Is there any reason to believe they won't figure it out?
No, they already have it figured out. Which is why the acquisition is going through. I wouldn't bother listening to those alts that signed up another account this year. There is a reason they are hiding behind a new tag. They are lying to you through their teeth.
Provided links and CMA aren't lying
@randy_lahey said:
@kvallyx: stop lying bro. Microsoft does not have it figured out. If you’re so confident, ATVI is cheap right now. Put your money where your mouth is, otherwise you’re spreading bs.
No, they already have it figured out. Which is why the acquisition is going through. I wouldn't bother listening to those alts that signed up another account this year. There is a reason they are hiding behind a new tag. They are lying to you through their teeth.
Provided links and CMA aren't lying
I dunno WTF he is blabbing about
Your headphones are too loud. You are going delirious. And your alt is melting down. Here, have some video game feet to help you cope.
No, they already have it figured out. Which is why the acquisition is going through. I wouldn't bother listening to those alts that signed up another account this year. There is a reason they are hiding behind a new tag. They are lying to you through their teeth.
Provided links and CMA aren't lying
I dunno WTF he is blabbing about
Your headphones are too loud. You are going delirious. And your alt is melting down. Here, have some video game feet to help you cope.
Complain? They had to explain their actions to a select committee of MPs, where the CMA was reminded that they are a Government department, and are not a power onto themselves.
“The Business and Trade Committee of the British Parliament held an oversight hearing yesterday where the CMA's chair Marcus Bokkerink and CEO Sarah Cardell had to answer lawmakers' questions.”
In particular, MP’s want to know why the CMA is the only one of 37 country regulatory bodies that have refused to allow the merger.
CMA grilled by MP’s
Don't bother with him. He's an alt cow troll, trying to regurgitate some random tweets he found. He has literally no idea what he is talking about. He is upset that the acquisition is going through because it's makes Microsoft a bigger competitor in the console wars. He is already upset that the Switch won gen 9 already, putting the PS5 in a gen loss, again.
"at 11:00:15 the guy from parliament says that the government will give more powers to the CMA to prevent big tech takeovers and says that the Big tech are putting a lot of money into paying activists/lobbyist to try to influence the CMA and give them a bad image"
Hello, Fosspatents. SCUM
Btw. you are quoting a MS paid astroturfer Florrian Mueller, a literally a psyscho. Really? You, Xbox peeps are associating with a damn psyscho? Is that it??
I found this while looking into Florian Mueller who is another Microsoft shill on twitter
It essentially lays out Microsoft's playbook for astroturfing and dealing with any competition or "enemies" as they call them.
It is an internal Microsoft document that became public during an anti trust lawsuit Microsoft lost many years ago and seems to have been lost with time.
Essentially if Microsoft has any competitor they want to extinguish them. Sometimes that involves playing nice with others but eventually want to overwhelm them with their money and power.
“Working behind the scenes to orchestrate “independent” praise of our technology, and damnation of the enemy’s, is a key evangelism function during the Slog. “Independent” analyst’s report should be issued, praising your technology and damning the competitors (or ignoring them). “Independent” consultants should write columns and articles, give conference presentations and moderate stacked panels, all on our behalf (and setting them up as experts in the new technology, available for just $200/hour). “Independent” academic sources should be cultivated and quoted (and research money granted). “Independent” courseware providers should start profiting from their early involvement in our technology. Every possible source of leverage should be sought and turned to our advantage.”
Guy is a damn maniac!
I have no idea who Florian muller is, nor do I care. Yes, the CMA was “grilled“ by mps. Thats not my interpretation, thats the general consensus of what happened when the CMA were reminded that their job isn’t to prevent deals being made in the UK when all 37 international bodies who have looked at the deal approved it.
The UK is very much alone in their interpretation, and the Government is not happy about it.
"at 11:00:15 the guy from parliament says that the government will give more powers to the CMA to prevent big tech takeovers and says that the Big tech are putting a lot of money into paying activists/lobbyist to try to influence the CMA and give them a bad image"
UK parliament gave them more powers. It is over 9000!!
And as i provided FT article
Financial Times ( paywalled ) :
UK regulator’s chiefs defend decision to block Microsoft-Activision merger
The heads of the UK’s competition regulator have insisted that they are not creating a “hostile” environment for tech companies after the agency was criticised for blocking Microsoft’s $75bn takeover of Activision Blizzard.
Answering questions from UK members of parliament on Tuesday, Marcus Bokkerink, chair of the Competition and Markets Authority, and its chief executive Sarah Cardell defended its stance on the video games industry’s largest deal, despite the European Commission accepting commitments from Microsoft and approving the tie-up on Monday.
“I think it’s absolutely critical that we maintain a constructive dialogue [with the tech industry] and that’s something that I seek to do and I’m doing regularly,” said Cardell, “so I don’t find that we are operating, sort of broadly speaking, in a hostile environment.”
Cardell added she had told tech companies in preparatory meetings ahead of the creation of a new digital markets unit, run by the CMA: “This is a sector where we want to work together.”
After executives at Microsoft and Activision suggested the CMA’s decision threatened to damage the UK’s profile among overseas businesses, Conservative MP Bim Afolami challenged the regulator’s top executives over how its decisions took account of Britain’s “international reputation”.
“I will challenge the premise that there is an impact on international confidence in doing business in the UK, that the best way that confidence is served is by turning a blind eye to anti-competitive mergers,” said Bokkerink. “We are vigilant . . . about investments that consolidate and entrench market power.”
In response to the CMA and EU’s contrasting decisions, Activision chief Bobby Kotick has said that “the UK is clearly closed for business” while saying his company would “meaningfully expand our investment and workforce throughout the EU”.
Cardell told MPs that officials at the CMA and in Brussels agreed about the potential harms of the Activision deal in the cloud gaming market but differed in their acceptance of Microsoft’s proposed remedies.
While the EU said that Microsoft had agreed to allow buyers of Activision’s games to stream them on rival cloud gaming platforms for up to 10 years, Cardell said that after “very carefully” considering “several iterations” of that proposal, CMA officials “ultimately concluded that remedy would not be effective to resolve the competition concerns”.
She also denied accusations levelled by Kotick that the CMA was acting as a “tool” of US antitrust enforcers, who have also opposed the deal.
“We are absolutely not doing the bidding of other agencies. We undertake our own analysis,” she said.
Parliament giving the CMA wider powers has nothing to do with the issue at hand. The CMA are a Government body, and when they make questionable decisions, they are still answerable to the Government regardless of which powers they have….which is why MPs hauled the CMA in front of this commitee.
The CMA having wider powers is a good thing - they still have to explain why they are the only regulatory body to block the merger.
As for your fabricated quote about MS trying to influence the case through lobbying, the CMA categorically denied that.
Parliament giving the CMA wider powers has nothing to do with the issue at hand. The CMA are a Government body, and when they make questionable decisions, they are still answerable to the Government regardless of which powers they have….which is why MPs hauled the CMA in front of this commitee.
The CMA having wider powers is a good thing - they still have to explain why they are the only regulatory body to block the merger.
As for your fabricated quote about MS trying to influence the case through lobbying, the CMA categorically denied that.
CMA is an INDEPENDENT BODY. It is soooo easy to google it.
If UK parliament had intended for the CMA to be open to gov intervention more expressly, then it would have of course introduced those types of powers/failsafes in legislation. In the future, who knows, maybe it will - but it certainly won’t for this merger.
As for your fabricated quote about MS trying to influence the case through lobbying, the CMA categorically denied that.
"at 11:00:15 the guy from parliament says that the government will give more powers to the CMA to prevent big tech takeovers and says that the Big tech are putting a lot of money into paying activists/lobbyist to try to influence the CMA and give them a bad image"
Yep, through dumbasses like fosspatents.
Guy who questioned CMA was, guess who was paid by some "lobbying firm" who tried to influence CMA during questioning.
It's amazing how people in positions of power are willing to put their careers and lives at jeopardy, all over paltry sums of money. 2 grand a month? Really? Could you not negotiate a better deal for yourself?
Parliament giving the CMA wider powers has nothing to do with the issue at hand. The CMA are a Government body, and when they make questionable decisions, they are still answerable to the Government regardless of which powers they have….which is why MPs hauled the CMA in front of this commitee.
The CMA having wider powers is a good thing - they still have to explain why they are the only regulatory body to block the merger.
As for your fabricated quote about MS trying to influence the case through lobbying, the CMA categorically denied that.
@sealionact: the CMA are actually not a government body. Try again
The CMA are a department of the Government. There is no Minister attached to them, so they are independent of Government policies, but are nonetheless part of the Government.
Parliament giving the CMA wider powers has nothing to do with the issue at hand. The CMA are a Government body, and when they make questionable decisions, they are still answerable to the Government regardless of which powers they have….which is why MPs hauled the CMA in front of this commitee.
The CMA having wider powers is a good thing - they still have to explain why they are the only regulatory body to block the merger.
As for your fabricated quote about MS trying to influence the case through lobbying, the CMA categorically denied that.
CMA is an INDEPENDENT BODY. It is soooo easy to google it.
If UK parliament had intended for the CMA to be open to gov intervention more expressly, then it would have of course introduced those types of powers/failsafes in legislation. In the future, who knows, maybe it will - but it certainly won’t for this merger.
As for your fabricated quote about MS trying to influence the case through lobbying, the CMA categorically denied that.
"at 11:00:15 the guy from parliament says that the government will give more powers to the CMA to prevent big tech takeovers and says that the Big tech are putting a lot of money into paying activists/lobbyist to try to influence the CMA and give them a bad image"
Yep, through dumbasses like fosspatents.
Guy who questioned CMA was, guess who was paid by some "lobbying firm" who tried to influence CMA during questioning.
It's amazing how people in positions of power are willing to put their careers and lives at jeopardy, all over paltry sums of money. 2 grand a month? Really? Could you not negotiate a better deal for yourself?
Sigh…..and yet the CMA stated during questioning that they had no problems with Lobbyists trying to influence them. Even if they had been approached by lobbyists, you seem to think that lobbying is somehow illegal or not allowed.
@sealionact: the CMA are actually not a government body. Try again
The CMA are a department of the Government. There is no Minister attached to them, so they are independent of Government policies, but are nonetheless part of the Government.
Independant non-ministerial department. So I guess a little of column A and a little of column B, but they do seem to be government related but not swayed by government input or political lobbying. I guess i was technically incorrect.
Independant non-ministerial department. So I guess a little of column A and a little of column B, but they do seem to be government related but not swayed by government input or political lobbying. I guess i was technically incorrect.
You are at least one of the rare people here who aren’t afraid to admit they’re incorrect. Bravo for that.
@randy_lahey: show us on the doll where Microsoft touched you.. we'll try and get you some help..
Why don't you shoot us a pic of your microsoft paystub? Otherwise all the free simping you do for them would probably be the most pathetic waste of time someone can put themselves through.
Sigh…..and yet the CMA stated during questioning that they had no problems with Lobbyists trying to influence them. Even if they had been approached by lobbyists, you seem to think that lobbying is somehow illegal or not allowed.
Keep posting nonsense though.
Of course CMA doesn’t have problem with lobbyists because they aren't dumb to be bribed.
And China approves. WOW. MS sure knocked it out of the park! Xbox Game Studios presents Call of Duty!
How does this help MS unblock the deal with the CMA?
Because China is a major player in the PC market and not to mention MS OS dominates in China. Not like MS needs to unblock CMA in the UK as you already know that from the get-go.
And China approves. WOW. MS sure knocked it out of the park! Xbox Game Studios presents Call of Duty!
How does this help MS unblock the deal with the CMA?
Because China is a major player in the PC market and not to mention MS OS dominates in China. Not like MS needs to unblock CMA in the UK as you already know that from the get-go.
And China approves. WOW. MS sure knocked it out of the park! Xbox Game Studios presents Call of Duty!
How does this help MS unblock the deal with the CMA?
Because China is a major player in the PC market and not to mention MS OS dominates in China. Not like MS needs to unblock CMA in the UK as you already know that from the get-go.
China is about as relevant to getting this deal passed as my butthole is approving it. CMA blocked and unless they get that appeal thru - it’s over.
Education may be your friend,it won't save you from having to make an alt account when the deal goes through,but it may prevent you from looking like a complete moon boot in future 👍
And China approves. WOW. MS sure knocked it out of the park! Xbox Game Studios presents Call of Duty!
How does this help MS unblock the deal with the CMA?
Because China is a major player in the PC market and not to mention MS OS dominates in China. Not like MS needs to unblock CMA in the UK as you already know that from the get-go.
China is about as relevant to getting this deal passed as my butthole is approving it. CMA blocked and unless they get that appeal thru - it’s over.
And China approves. WOW. MS sure knocked it out of the park! Xbox Game Studios presents Call of Duty!
How does this help MS unblock the deal with the CMA?
Because China is a major player in the PC market and not to mention MS OS dominates in China. Not like MS needs to unblock CMA in the UK as you already know that from the get-go.
China is about as relevant to getting this deal passed as my butthole is approving it. CMA blocked and unless they get that appeal thru - it’s over.
This is getting closed with or without CMA.
Kvally I’ll bet you $100 USD it doesn’t pass. if I lose I’ll PayPal it to you and vice versa. considering I have to convert from CAD, it will end up costing me thousands
@randy_lahey: If UK refuses to approve of the merger without any further concessions, then Microsoft can sweeten the deal by removing Activision games from UK Game Pass (but still include it other parts of the world that approved the merger), making it impossible for CMA to justify how it would be a monopoly. No Activision games on UK Game Pass would make it easier for other cloud companies to compete. Good luck claiming there’s a monopoly.
You guys unfortunately have no idea what you’re talking about. High off hopium.
How do you figure MS will operate in the UK without approval from the CMA. Oh but you know the answer already
Remove cloud/Game Pass access for ABK games.
@randy_lahey said:
@kvallyx said:
@randy_lahey said:
@davillain said:
Because China is a major player in the PC market and not to mention MS OS dominates in China. Not like MS needs to unblock CMA in the UK as you already know that from the get-go.
China is about as relevant to getting this deal passed as my butthole is approving it. CMA blocked and unless they get that appeal thru - it’s over.
This is getting closed with or without CMA.
Kvally I’ll bet you $100 USD it doesn’t pass. if I lose I’ll PayPal it to you and vice versa. considering I have to convert from CAD, it will end up costing me thousands
We use Kroner (NOK). Keep that shit US currency away from me.
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