EA's Origin, Why do so many people hate it?

I would like to know why there is all this backlash against EA's origin, I just simply want to know, I understand that Ea taking their games off of Steam was a crappy move but what about the service is actually bad. Anyone tha has used it or if anybody knows any details about the negative aspects of Origin please discuss, as I would like to know. I saw something posted on Escapist that Origin will only give you access to your games for one year. I am not sure if its true or if someone is just trying to add more flames. Please discuss.

I would like to know why there is all this backlash against EA's origin, I just simply want to know, I understand that Ea taking their games off of Steam was a crappy move but what about the service is actually bad. Anyone tha has used it or if anybody knows any details about the negative aspects of Origin please discuss, as I would like to know. I saw something posted on Escapist that Origin will only give you access to your games for one year. I am not sure if its true or if someone is just trying to add more flames. Please discuss.

AkimboBFGNinja

The problem is that it's yet another stand alone applicaiton that we have to run in the background, except it comes with NONE of the perks of Steam. It's like Steam 1.0, when it first came out. It sucked, and so does Origin.

If origin wanted to compete with Steam, it needed to come right out fo the gate with a ton of features - at the very least the same one found in Steam.

First post nailed it. Origin sucks right now because it's a barebones service compared to feature-filled fan-favorite clients like Steam.

Slashkice

[QUOTE="AkimboBFGNinja"]

I would like to know why there is all this backlash against EA's origin, I just simply want to know, I understand that Ea taking their games off of Steam was a crappy move but what about the service is actually bad. Anyone tha has used it or if anybody knows any details about the negative aspects of Origin please discuss, as I would like to know. I saw something posted on Escapist that Origin will only give you access to your games for one year. I am not sure if its true or if someone is just trying to add more flames. Please discuss.

Kinthalis

The problem is that it's yet another stand alone applicaiton that we have to run in the background, except it comes with NONE of the perks of Steam. It's like Steam 1.0, when it first came out. It sucked, and so does Origin.

If origin wanted to compete with Steam, it needed to come right out fo the gate with a ton of features - at the very least the same one found in Steam.

It also sets a precedent for more company-exclusive Digital Distribution platforms.

If other companies follow this trend, Activision, Ubisoft, THQ, Square Enix, Konami, Sega, Capcom, etc. might have their own SEPARATE clients you have to install.

It's just too much fragmentation in a market that yearns to be unified.

[QUOTE="AkimboBFGNinja"]

I would like to know why there is all this backlash against EA's origin, I just simply want to know, I understand that Ea taking their games off of Steam was a crappy move but what about the service is actually bad. Anyone tha has used it or if anybody knows any details about the negative aspects of Origin please discuss, as I would like to know. I saw something posted on Escapist that Origin will only give you access to your games for one year. I am not sure if its true or if someone is just trying to add more flames. Please discuss.

Kinthalis

The problem is that it's yet another stand alone applicaiton that we have to run in the background, except it comes with NONE of the perks of Steam. It's like Steam 1.0, when it first came out. It sucked, and so does Origin.

If origin wanted to compete with Steam, it needed to come right out fo the gate with a ton of features - at the very least the same one found in Steam.

What are the perks of Steam besides the sales and Online gaming platform. I understand it can get comlicated with so many online distributors but What about people with D2D or Impulse? Aren't those are yet another service people have to log into?

wow, didn't steam suck when it first came out? give it timeChris_Williams

Luckily it has EA backing it. If a smaller company came out with Origin, Valve would simply steamroll it (no pun intended).

[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

First post nailed it. Origin sucks right now because it's a barebones service compared to feature-filled fan-favorite clients like Steam.

Chris_Williams

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

[QUOTE="AkimboBFGNinja"]

I would like to know why there is all this backlash against EA's origin, I just simply want to know, I understand that Ea taking their games off of Steam was a crappy move but what about the service is actually bad. Anyone tha has used it or if anybody knows any details about the negative aspects of Origin please discuss, as I would like to know. I saw something posted on Escapist that Origin will only give you access to your games for one year. I am not sure if its true or if someone is just trying to add more flames. Please discuss.

peterw007

The problem is that it's yet another stand alone applicaiton that we have to run in the background, except it comes with NONE of the perks of Steam. It's like Steam 1.0, when it first came out. It sucked, and so does Origin.

If origin wanted to compete with Steam, it needed to come right out fo the gate with a ton of features - at the very least the same one found in Steam.

It also sets a precedent for more company-exclusive Digital Distribution platforms.

If other companies follow this trend, Activision, Ubisoft, THQ, Square Enix, Konami, Sega, Capcom, etc. might have their own SEPARATE clients you have to install.

It's just too much fragmentation in a market that yearns to be unified.

I can understand that, But to be honest I really see this as a move by EA to get its foot into the door of the digital market. When steam first came out it really only distributed its own games and added more games later on. I think EA wants a store like Steam considering Valve makes so much money from steam.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]wow, didn't steam suck when it first came out? give it timeSlashkice

It's 2011. EA is a much, much larger company than Valve - they have no excuse for not launching with more features in this day and age.

What are the perks of Steam besides the sales and Online gaming platform. I understand it can get comlicated with so many online distributors but What about people with D2D or Impulse? Aren't those are yet another service people have to log into?

AkimboBFGNinja

Steam offers a plethora of community services. D2D and Impulse are simply online stores (though I think Impulse offers a platform of some kind) and the games are launchable like a retail game (except the install files are digital).

They're not programing gods.alexside1

You need to be a programming god to offer more features. I have yet to try it, but I understand it is lacking.

They should have outsourced to a competent company :P

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

[QUOTE="AkimboBFGNinja"]

I would like to know why there is all this backlash against EA's origin, I just simply want to know, I understand that Ea taking their games off of Steam was a crappy move but what about the service is actually bad. Anyone tha has used it or if anybody knows any details about the negative aspects of Origin please discuss, as I would like to know. I saw something posted on Escapist that Origin will only give you access to your games for one year. I am not sure if its true or if someone is just trying to add more flames. Please discuss.

AkimboBFGNinja

The problem is that it's yet another stand alone applicaiton that we have to run in the background, except it comes with NONE of the perks of Steam. It's like Steam 1.0, when it first came out. It sucked, and so does Origin.

If origin wanted to compete with Steam, it needed to come right out fo the gate with a ton of features - at the very least the same one found in Steam.

What are the perks of Steam besides the sales and Online gaming platform. I understand it can get comlicated with so many online distributors but What about people with D2D or Impulse? Aren't those are yet another service people have to log into?

[QUOTE="AkimboBFGNinja"]

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

The problem is that it's yet another stand alone applicaiton that we have to run in the background, except it comes with NONE of the perks of Steam. It's like Steam 1.0, when it first came out. It sucked, and so does Origin.

If origin wanted to compete with Steam, it needed to come right out fo the gate with a ton of features - at the very least the same one found in Steam.

Cranler

What are the perks of Steam besides the sales and Online gaming platform. I understand it can get comlicated with so many online distributors but What about people with D2D or Impulse? Aren't those are yet another service people have to log into?

Ive only ever used steam, I was under the impression that you had to log into other Digital distribution services as well.

It was not that bad at all when I used it for BF3 alpha.

I dont agree with some thigns EA is doign atm but Origin was surprisingly good with its interface.

Still prefer STeam and Impulse but Origin I dont mind personally.

To be honest I think people are overreacting, I mean no one cares that Valve games aren't on D2D or impulse? So why is it bad that you can only get Ea games from their service?AkimboBFGNinja

Valve aren't a giant publisher like EA. Losing EA is a pretty big deal.

[QUOTE="alexside1"]They're not programing gods.lundy86_4

You need to be a programming god to offer more features. I have yet to try it, but I understand it is lacking.

They should have outsourced to a competent company :P

[QUOTE="AkimboBFGNinja"]To be honest I think people are overreacting, I mean no one cares that Valve games aren't on D2D or impulse? So why is it bad that you can only get Ea games from their service?Slashkice

As explained before, Steam is a good service - Origin is not. This is the key difference.

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[QUOTE="AkimboBFGNinja"]

What are the perks of Steam besides the sales and Online gaming platform. I understand it can get comlicated with so many online distributors but What about people with D2D or Impulse? Aren't those are yet another service people have to log into?

AkimboBFGNinja

Ive only ever used steam, I was under the impression that you had to log into other Digital distribution services as well.

I not denying the fact that ea is a bigger company than value, but that doesn't mean they have god like abilities when it comes to programming. Developing software takes time, lots of time. The majority of that time involves debugging. I don't think that anyone enjoy bugged features. (Unless, your a complete geek).alexside1

I'm sure it did take them a lot of time to plan and create Origin as a platform. However, i'm sure they are competent enough to launch a platform that is a lottle more feature-rich. If not, then at least hire in a company that is well versed in that area.

It's not like it won't get better, as EA can fund it until it becomes a serious competitor in the DD market.

It's anti-consumer, anti-convenience.

People want to have all their games in one place.

They don't want to have 20 different services, going "I can't remember which service I had this game on."

We all know why EA started Origin, they wanted a bigger slice of profits.

Greed > consumer

EA has always been an anti-gamer company. Support them if you like, I never will.

I don't like any of these 'services' that require you to sign in just to play a single player game you already own and require you to purchase DLC through them.KC_Hokie

Origin has already been around for a bit It was called Ea Online Store but they just renamed and updated it. Lets say in a year or two Origin gets bigger and is like steam? Would it matter then or is it simply just a matter of prefference and the whole "EA is the Devil " factor going on.AkimboBFGNinja

It'll no doubt matter in the near future. EA will pump it full of money, as it'll make them a boatload in return (they are their own distribution, thus will net all profit). Unfortunately, it segregates the market, and EA is a big publiser... Origin is gonna house a lot of games. I hope that EA and Valve get this whole debacle ironed out, so that the games will still be offered through Steam.

[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

First post nailed it. Origin sucks right now because it's a barebones service compared to feature-filled fan-favorite clients like Steam.

Chris_Williams

There is no excuse to have a dramatically inferior service to your competitors when they've been out for much longer.

[QUOTE="AkimboBFGNinja"]Origin has already been around for a bit It was called Ea Online Store but they just renamed and updated it. Lets say in a year or two Origin gets bigger and is like steam? Would it matter then or is it simply just a matter of prefference and the whole "EA is the Devil " factor going on.lundy86_4

It'll no doubt matter in the near future. EA will pump it full of money, as it'll make them a boatload in return (they are their own distribution, thus will net all profit). Unfortunately, it segregates the market, and EA is a big publiser... Origin is gonna house a lot of games. I hope that EA and Valve get this whole debacle ironed out, so that the games will still be offered through Steam.

Honestly, what's the point of having Origin then if you can just get the games through Steam?

If EA does that, nobody will use their DD platform.

[QUOTE="AkimboBFGNinja"]Origin has already been around for a bit It was called Ea Online Store but they just renamed and updated it. Lets say in a year or two Origin gets bigger and is like steam? Would it matter then or is it simply just a matter of prefference and the whole "EA is the Devil " factor going on.lundy86_4

It'll no doubt matter in the near future. EA will pump it full of money, as it'll make them a boatload in return (they are their own distribution, thus will net all profit). Unfortunately, it segregates the market, and EA is a big publiser... Origin is gonna house a lot of games. I hope that EA and Valve get this whole debacle ironed out, so that the games will still be offered through Steam.

Also if I am not mistaken EA games will still be offered on Gamers gate and D2D, if this is true why not have it on steam? Not sure what is going down but I recently came across an articel on another site.

I don't care for Origin or Steam, a matter of fact, when I run my PC games, I wish I didn't have to sign in a stupid cilent to boot my games. Going back to the arguements made in this thread, there are no good reasons why Steam is better than Origin and all I see is blind bias towards Valve's cilent.

First post nailed it. Origin sucks right now because it's a barebones service compared to feature-filled fan-favorite clients like Steam.

Slashkice

[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

First post nailed it. Origin sucks right now because it's a barebones service compared to feature-filled fan-favorite clients like Steam.

xsubtownerx

Actually I launch starcraft2 through steam. Steam is basically a free xbox live but better.

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="Slashkice"]

First post nailed it. Origin sucks right now because it's a barebones service compared to feature-filled fan-favorite clients like Steam.

topgunmv

Actually I launch starcraft2 through steam. Steam is basically a free xbox live but better.

That really isnt the issue, the issue is only being able to purchase EA games on Origin, other select Digital ditribution. Noone complains about blizzards games only being available on their store so why all the rage for EA Origin. I think its partly Bias and partly fear of EA.

[QUOTE="alexside1"]I not denying the fact that ea is a bigger company than value, but that doesn't mean they have god like abilities when it comes to programming. Developing software takes time, lots of time. The majority of that time involves debugging. I don't think that anyone enjoy bugged features. (Unless, your a complete geek).lundy86_4

I'm sure it did take them a lot of time to plan and create Origin as a platform. However, i'm sure they are competent enough to launch a platform that is a lottle more feature-rich. If not, then at least hire in a company that is well versed in that area.

It's not like it won't get better, as EA can fund it until it becomes a serious competitor in the DD market.

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"] What features? Steam isn't all that good. Do you see any Blizzard games on Steam? Do you see anyone badmouthing Battle.net?AkimboBFGNinja

Actually I launch starcraft2 through steam. Steam is basically a free xbox live but better.

That really isnt the issue, the issue is only being able to purchase EA games on Origin, other select Digital ditribution. Noone complains about blizzards games only being available on their store so why all the rage for EA Origin. I think its partly Bias and partly fear of EA.

Well for one thing EA has a terrible history with servers, both in maintaining them and the duration that they keep them up.

I couldn't play battlefield 1943 literally half the time because the servers were always borked. I wouldn't trust a company with a bad history like that.

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

[QUOTE="AkimboBFGNinja"]

I would like to know why there is all this backlash against EA's origin, I just simply want to know, I understand that Ea taking their games off of Steam was a crappy move but what about the service is actually bad. Anyone tha has used it or if anybody knows any details about the negative aspects of Origin please discuss, as I would like to know. I saw something posted on Escapist that Origin will only give you access to your games for one year. I am not sure if its true or if someone is just trying to add more flames. Please discuss.

AkimboBFGNinja

The problem is that it's yet another stand alone applicaiton that we have to run in the background, except it comes with NONE of the perks of Steam. It's like Steam 1.0, when it first came out. It sucked, and so does Origin.

If origin wanted to compete with Steam, it needed to come right out fo the gate with a ton of features - at the very least the same one found in Steam.

What are the perks of Steam besides the sales and Online gaming platform. I understand it can get comlicated with so many online distributors but What about people with D2D or Impulse? Aren't those are yet another service people have to log into?

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="Slashkice"]

First post nailed it. Origin sucks right now because it's a barebones service compared to feature-filled fan-favorite clients like Steam.

topgunmv

Actually I launch starcraft2 through steam. Steam is basically a free xbox live but better.

you should still be able to launch any Origin game from steam, all steam does it put a shortcut in steam

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[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

The problem is that it's yet another stand alone applicaiton that we have to run in the background, except it comes with NONE of the perks of Steam. It's like Steam 1.0, when it first came out. It sucked, and so does Origin.

If origin wanted to compete with Steam, it needed to come right out fo the gate with a ton of features - at the very least the same one found in Steam.

DragonfireXZ95

What are the perks of Steam besides the sales and Online gaming platform. I understand it can get comlicated with so many online distributors but What about people with D2D or Impulse? Aren't those are yet another service people have to log into?

can't you get almost all of that everywhere else? only thing missing is party chat, and community/clan page, cause most clans just have a website anyways

[QUOTE="AkimboBFGNinja"]

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

Actually I launch starcraft2 through steam. Steam is basically a free xbox live but better.

topgunmv

That really isnt the issue, the issue is only being able to purchase EA games on Origin, other select Digital ditribution. Noone complains about blizzards games only being available on their store so why all the rage for EA Origin. I think its partly Bias and partly fear of EA.

Well for one thing EA has a terrible history with servers, both in maintaining them and the duration that they keep them up.

I couldn't play battlefield 1943 literally half the time because the servers were always borked. I wouldn't trust a company with a bad history like that.

never had a problem, but that could be 90% of the time I was playing on a moongamer server, played on there server all the way to BC2 good servers

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="AkimboBFGNinja"]

What are the perks of Steam besides the sales and Online gaming platform. I understand it can get comlicated with so many online distributors but What about people with D2D or Impulse? Aren't those are yet another service people have to log into?

gamer-adam1

can't you get almost all of that everywhere else? only thing missing is party chat, and community/clan page, cause most clans just have a website anyways

You could, but this is all combined into one service. A service that carries all types of games from all types of publishers/devs.

Origin is only EA games. What's the point?

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[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"] What features? Steam isn't all that good. Do you see any Blizzard games on Steam? Do you see anyone badmouthing Battle.net?AkimboBFGNinja

Actually I launch starcraft2 through steam. Steam is basically a free xbox live but better.

That really isnt the issue, the issue is only being able to purchase EA games on Origin, other select Digital ditribution. Noone complains about blizzards games only being available on their store so why all the rage for EA Origin. I think its partly Bias and partly fear of EA.

*list of features found on pretty much everything*

Slashkice

I'm pretty sure Origin will have the same key features as well. Minus of course the "steam cloud" which I never use because backing up files is not a hard thing to do. Still nice to have I suppose, but laughable as a selling point as to why steam would be better..