Doom Eternal wont have traditional MP. focus completely on SP.

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No traditional multiplayer mode. Battlemode is our primary multiplayer mode.

Good news. MP in Doom 2016 was trash and no one cares bout MP in Doom game. its all about SP. better focus completely on Quality SP and having both mediocre SP and MP that COD and battlefield do every year.

I honestly doubt anyone was waiting to hear about the MP before making their buying decision on Doom Eternal

MP gaming in general is waste of time. luckily id software didnot bother with it this time.

Nah, it's pretty good

MP was an important part of the original Doom.

but not as important as single player because Doom is about SP and no one care about its MP.

Quake on other hand is important for MP but only after quake 2. Quake 1 was also SP FPS.

Hmm, ok. Reading your threads is a waste of time aswell.

I love how bethesda apologists keep making up this fucking excuse. Doom had always had MP, be it coop or pvp. Doom 2016 MP was trash cause shithesda outsourced it to Certain Affinity. Quake Chumpions is trash because of Saber. Bethesda wants to kill off their FPS mp because they are absolute failures at it.

Fine with me. As long as they don't go soft on the difficulty I'll be happy.

I used to play a lot of GZ Doom online and Skulltag before it got shut down. I really did not like the doom 2016 MP. The beta sucked worried everyone.

One thing I thought was awesome is how ID did not show any gameplay footage footage of Doom 2016 until a couple of months before release.

That's... not a selling point. I mean, I didn't care for the multiplayer in Doom, but having fewer features is never something to brag about or compliment a game for. I've had a lot of fun with multiplayer modes considered afterthoughts.

Not twu.

Quake and Doom were pioneers of MP and modding.

Doom, Quake and Quake II all had A+ SP and MP.

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That's another point worth bringing up... modding.

It's non-existent.

That’s nice and all but it better be longer than 10 hours then...

Wow, how refreshing!

Good to see.

That seems like a really bad idea but I'm no expert.

Doom is garbage, has always been garbage, it is a fps so it goes with the territory.

after Quake 2. Quake went full MP and since then no Quake game has SP at all. be it Quake 3 arena or Quake champion. and i stop caring about it until they reboot SP Quake.

Doom is known for its SP always. after Quake no one really play Doom MP and shift to Quake. and since then all Doom games are about SP.

Let Doom has A plus SP rather than mediocre SP and MP. let it to have long and varied SP campaign not to be hurt by shitty MP.

SP FPS has always been better than MP FPS and thats the fact.

yeah stick to shitty racing games. they are too fast and complex for you.

how many FPS you have played in history???

its a raven game. it doesnot count. quake after 2 went full MP to the point i stop caring about.

i just wish MP should stick to only MP games.

even RTCW which people praise its MP. I love it just for its SP. and thats it.

Both of these are false. Quake 4 (though dumbed down for the Halo gamer), it still a decent game and RTCW MP set the standard for team FPS. The only competition it had was Battlefield 1942

It also received ET, one of the best (totally free) games released. No hyperbole, legitimately one of the best free games ever released.

When pointing to a free2play game that isn't some loot-box infested microtransaction grind, point to Enemy Territory and Path Of Exile.

@uninspiredcup: well point is. Doom should have been only about its SP.

and because of complete focus on SP. they remove arena lockdown in a favor of vast open level design added tons of new feature to make game feel more fresh.

arena lockdown is biggest complain of Doom and they removed it.

That's a shame. No replay value for me then. Guess I will wait for a fire sale if I ever buy it. I personally only really like shooters for multiplayer if I am to play one. Especially since the Doom story is lackluster at best. Oh well, I wasn't hyped for the game anyways.

Not every game need MP and no one play Doom for MP.

"When pointing to a free2play game that isn't some loot-box infested microtransaction grind, point to Enemy Territory and Path Of Exile."

LOL. PoE really? Not even close.

As for "super manly FPS gamer" , pretty weak to only want to fight stupid AI.

want to fight against demons. want to explore excellent level design, want to explore from earth to mars to hell etc.

do not want to shoot same guys in same map over and over again. MP gaming suck. its overrated. it get boring after 10 minutes.

We get it, you can't take a challenge. I like both, but SP is too easy and predictable.

play it on nightmare. and LOL at MP being hard. most of MP games today are either unbalanced or full of casuals.

but MP is boring. you are doing same thing and same map over and over again. its only fun for few minutes before it can get stale.

if you need MP. keep that in yearly COD and BF games and stay that away from my Doom.

I've beat every doom game on nightmare. Its easy.

Your logic is insanely flawed. Its not like the AI in a SP game dynamically adjusts. Its the same "braindead" crap. You play through it once, and its the same every time you play it again.

Crying unbalanced is yet another moniker of someone who just cant handle it. Casuals are everywhere in every game, and mainly part of why sonys cinematic 3rd person action movie games sell so well.

Some games have actual skill based matchmaking so every game isnt like a candy store. Ofc I said some, not all.

History show most of best FPS has been about SP.

From early Doom, Quake (before it went MP), Half life, STAKER, Crysis, FEAR, Deus Ex, System shock 2 etc. they are far and away better than MP games.

the thing is SP FPS worth full price but MP FPS do not. they are easy to develop, having less budget, etc thats why lot of developers make MP games.

My cousin and I did on many occasions. Just because it is something you did not enjoy or do not like, does not mean others did not find value in it. I am for more options to play as opposed to less.

tbf doom's sp descends into that after several hours, apart from the same map. wander to next area. lock down. battle same enemies over and over again. gets stale

and Doom Eternal is fixing it so it make sense for them to ditch MP.

Is good.

I wish they would release legit tools for people to make their own levels (real tools, snap map was garbage).

@ghosts4ever: im actually in the opposite boat, never gave af about quake single player, it was quake 3 arena that made me love quake, it was my entry game into arena shooters, UT2004 is still one of my favorite shooters of all time.

Quake champions isnt very good, but considering no one seems to be able to make a good arena shooter, its the best current one.

But yeah doom 2016 MP was hot garbage, if it was going to be more of that they are better off not even trying.

I miss arena shooters, that was the genre that got me into competitive MP, these battlefield, cod, rainbow six, overwatch type MP bores me to death. Wheres the SPEED!! Seriously as a fan of competitive shooters, this gen has been horrible for MP shooters.

It feels good rocket jumping in the air while slinging out headshots with a rail gun, running 100mph lol

Casuals have killed arena shooters, cod and battlefield. Its sad, these borring lifeless, slow MP games just trying to squeeze a penny out for cosmetics and lootboxes. UT2004 launched with like 400 maps and the mods were incredible.

Quake champions. if you want arena MP game.

According to whom? It's original incarnation brought about modern online multiplayer and modding. IMO these should be key ingredients.

I really dislike how in this day and age the idea of a good single player and a good multiplayer is like some sort of opposite.

Games like Doom, Quake, Quake 2, RTCW, Halflife, Halflife 2 and Portal 2 all happily delivered stellar SP and MP.

The new MP does sound interesting, essentially Natural Selection/AVP. We'll see how that goes.

@ghosts4ever: .thats what I said, its literraly the only one on the market, but it doesnt have the money to be great, which is why its f2p. It needs content badly.

Just clown talk.

The best FPS of all-time created stellar MP and made MP FPS what it is today. Speaking absolute bollocks. Counterstrike is coming up on 20 years of being active as all heck, and that was just a half-life mod. Quake also was one of the most successful MP games with TF n what not. You are just a delirious person who cant handle the challenge of facing actual ppl and likes to smash dumb underdeveloped AI. MP games require constant upkeep and development changes where as SP its a one and done. Thats why bethesda is trying to shelve them aside from ESO. Sony loves them too, cause they pump them out (just like movies) and require almost no upkeep, just significant bribes to reviewers. The gameplay is shallow af and you are just in an interactive movie. Thats why they dont have MP, because there are no gameplay mechanics to make one round different from the next.

/rant over.

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I used to like CS 1.6 but now im bored of it and didnot liked CSGO. i used to like TF2 but now not anymore. its boring now.

Rainbow six suppose to be SP tactical FPS now just another MLG game and thus ruined.

Quake might be most successful MP game but Quake 1 SP was what made the game great. after series shift to MP. i stopped caring about it.

developers trying to shoved MP because they are easy to make. and take less resources and less budget and give them more money thanks to microtransactions.

dont care about sony movie games at all. just give me Good SP FPS with excellent level design and all fine.

look at cyberpunk 2077. a single player FPS/RPG that wont be get hype if it was MP game.

come on, Half life MP was trash and HL2 didnot even had proper MP just team deathmatch which suck also. its all about SP. its CS that is Half life equivalent of MP.

Quake MP was good because it was first game that invent team deathmach plus free mouse look. and thats why it is the series that shown as MP oriented. thats why id philosphy is Doom is for SP, Quake is for MP. you cant make game today with expecting both of them good.

Portal 2 has coop and not a proper MP so its not count.

the only series today that focus on both. SP and MP simultaneously is i guess Halo. cant think of anything else.

Releasing with a season pass for MP limited their post-release content to MP in first game. Wonder if they'll have a season pass and if that means post-release SP expansions are coming.

CS 1.6 was shit. cs 1.0 was where it was at.

Dude you got a first-person-shooter problem. I'm hype for Doom Eternal myself btw!

@davillain- said:

@i_p_daily said:

Doom is garbage, has always been garbage, it is a fps so it goes with the territory.

Dude you got a first-person-shooter problem. I'm hype for Doom Eternal myself btw!

It's cause he's a thumbstick noob.

Meh, wasn’t on my radar anyway.

I quite enjoyed the multiplayer in the first game.