Doom Eternal will have longer SP than Doom 2016

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Marty Stratton says it'll take around 18-22 hours to finish.

"It's definitely bigger than Doom 2016, longer," Stratton said. "I think the way we're challenging players will probably make it play a bit longer. My guess right now is it's in the 18-22 hour range on a pretty complete playthrough."

OMG OMG. thankyou id software. gone are the days when FPS campaign was over in 6 hour and focus on tacked on SP.

this is great news. Doom 2016 took 12 to 15 hour to finish. this more longer is more plus with having more variety

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Good!!!

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Sounds like it will be bloated.

Steam sale.

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Think variety is the keyword here.. loved doom, but by the time it was finished I was quite happy it wasn’t 60-80% longer... but of course they may add more varied settings, enemies etc.

If it’s just shoot random demons non stop, 22 hours is wayyyy to long imo.

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@uninspiredcup said:

Sounds like it will be bloated.

Steam sale.

RE2 which you consider masterpiece is 4 hour game with only 2 location.

This Doom will have mars, earth, hell and heaven with also take place in different facility.

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Hope it doesn't drag even more than the last game.

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Uh-huh. The length of the game has never concerned me. I'm more worried about the arena events they seem to still go with, despite all the complaints.

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@Litchie said:

Uh-huh. The length of the game has never concerned me. I'm more worried about the arena events they seem to still go with, despite all the complaints.

didnot they remove arena lockdown?

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@ghosts4ever said:
@Litchie said:

Uh-huh. The length of the game has never concerned me. I'm more worried about the arena events they seem to still go with, despite all the complaints.

didnot they remove arena lockdown?

I think they talked about how they made the arena events better. Not that they don't have them.

I looked around a bit, but I don't remember which video it was.

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The Doom campaign was kinda boring. The only thing that kept me going was the music. The shoot bad guys until they light up, melee them, find the card key, go to the next spot in the map and repeat, gameplay gets super stale super fast. Hopefully the next game isn't just that again...

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@Litchie said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@Litchie said:

Uh-huh. The length of the game has never concerned me. I'm more worried about the arena events they seem to still go with, despite all the complaints.

didnot they remove arena lockdown?

I think they talked about how they made the arena events better. Not that they don't have them.

I looked around a bit, but I don't remember which video it was.

Loading Video...

It doesnot looks like any close arena lockdown. you move forward and levels are bigger now.

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@ghosts4ever: I didn't find evidence now on that arena events are still there, so hopefully it's true that they're gone.

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Although it is about hell and such, in the '16 game I preferred the levels on Mars as the Hell levels seemed boring and uninteresting.

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@Litchie said:

@ghosts4ever: I didn't find evidence now on that arena events are still there, so hopefully it's true that they're gone.

the gameplay is kind of never get old. just like how FEAR gameplay never get old. maybe they are not completely gone but are bigger so we have vast of location to explore.

on other hand we have boring open world games that get old after half n hour. (ala assassins creed, far cry, gta, witcher 3 etc)

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Sounds really bloated.

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Yes, new version bigger better. Got it.

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@ghosts4ever: You hypocrite, you tried to argue that the best games were 12-15 hrs long, and now 18-22 Is great. What a pathetic shill you are.

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Sorry but Doom does not even come close to FEAR.

Also I still think 90s Doom is better than the current versions.

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RPG elements confirmed.

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Not great news to me. The last one started to drag towards the end, hopefully they're able to keep it fresh. More weapons and enemies would be a good start

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Can the multiplayer be a good arena FPS this time pls?

I know born in 3D gamers like ghost weren't around for Doom deathmatch or Quake, but those of us that do remember ID's multiplayer was a lot of fun because they had fun weapons n movement. Doom 5 having an airdash, grappling hook for multiplayer could be kino, all you have to do is get rid of the loadouts, put weapons n power ups on the map, have a starting position utility weapon, wam bam, arena FPS fun and Doom 5 can be the total fucking package.

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I thought you hated long games (15+ hrs)?

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Nowhere near the time value of Barbie's Horse Adventure though, sorry, Doom is just inferior in that regard.

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@ghosts4ever said:

RE2 which you consider masterpiece is 4 hour game with only 2 location.

This Doom will have mars, earth, hell and heaven with also take place in different facility.

Longer than DOOM with more varied locations adn gameplay? Yes please!

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@dxmcat said:

Sorry but Doom does not even come close to FEAR.

Also I still think 90s Doom is better than the current versions.

Doom is actually better than FEAR and I consider FEAR as masterpiece too.

FEAR is far too corridorish or reptetive say. but its gameplay and AI so good that it never get old.

@jg4xchamp said:

Can the multiplayer be a good arena FPS this time pls?

I know born in 3D gamers like ghost weren't around for Doom deathmatch or Quake, but those of us that do remember ID's multiplayer was a lot of fun because they had fun weapons n movement. Doom 5 having an airdash, grappling hook for multiplayer could be kino, all you have to do is get rid of the loadouts, put weapons n power ups on the map, have a starting position utility weapon, wam bam, arena FPS fun and Doom 5 can be the total fucking package.

Doom Eternal MP looks different than most of mainstream AAA games around. its demons vs doom slayer. instead of some generic deathmatch that is done to death many times.

removing MP make them more focus on SP thus its SP is now longer and more varied.

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@ghosts4ever said:

@jg4xchamp said:

Can the multiplayer be a good arena FPS this time pls?

I know born in 3D gamers like ghost weren't around for Doom deathmatch or Quake, but those of us that do remember ID's multiplayer was a lot of fun because they had fun weapons n movement. Doom 5 having an airdash, grappling hook for multiplayer could be kino, all you have to do is get rid of the loadouts, put weapons n power ups on the map, have a starting position utility weapon, wam bam, arena FPS fun and Doom 5 can be the total fucking package.

Doom Eternal MP looks different than most of mainstream AAA games around. its demons vs doom slayer.

yeah it looks neat, I would also like a fun arena FPS deathmatch. I get that you wouldn't since you're a FPS casual. But those of us raised on real PC FPS games would dig it.

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Good but still that UI sucks to colorful for a DOOM game.

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#28  Edited By Pedro  Online
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The first one was a little too long and now this is longer. SAD.

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@jg4xchamp said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@jg4xchamp said:

Can the multiplayer be a good arena FPS this time pls?

I know born in 3D gamers like ghost weren't around for Doom deathmatch or Quake, but those of us that do remember ID's multiplayer was a lot of fun because they had fun weapons n movement. Doom 5 having an airdash, grappling hook for multiplayer could be kino, all you have to do is get rid of the loadouts, put weapons n power ups on the map, have a starting position utility weapon, wam bam, arena FPS fun and Doom 5 can be the total fucking package.

Doom Eternal MP looks different than most of mainstream AAA games around. its demons vs doom slayer.

yeah it looks neat, I would also like a fun arena FPS deathmatch. I get that you wouldn't since you're a FPS casual. But those of us raised on real PC FPS games would dig it.

Im hardcore enough to appriciate old shool FPS. but come on.

MP gaming now is full of casuals and non gamers. see PUBG, fortnite, CSGO, Dota, COD. most of these games played by casuals.

my non gamers friends play CSGO and Dota all the time and they dont play any other games.

my female cousin play PUBG all the time and she is not a gamer let alone casual gamer.

I (ie me) being hardcore gamer couldnot stand any popular MP games.

now come to deathmatch. they have done to death so many times. and they bored me.

I enjoyed Quake 1 but since series shift towards MP i stopped caring. although for arena deathmatch there is Quake champion alternate to Doom because Doom only need quality SP.

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#30 jg4xchamp
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Im hardcore enough

No you aint. You're a casual.

You n soccer moms

Same energy.

Hell less energy, you have less energy than the soccer mom. She gotta take care of the house, do the dishes, do the laundry, watch the kids, and she still out here flexin on em in Just Dance. You out here not even playing your FPS games above easy.

Sad.

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#31  Edited By Renegade_Fury
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That's cool. I played the first one for around 18 hours according to steam, so I'm up for even more content this time around.

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@jg4xchamp said:

Hell less energy, you have less energy than the soccer mom.

I workout on daily basis so no.

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@warmblur said:

Good but still that UI sucks to colorful for a DOOM game.

https://www.vg247.com/2019/06/17/doom-eternal-ui/

UI is customizable.

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@ghosts4ever said:
@jg4xchamp said:

Hell less energy, you have less energy than the soccer mom.

I workout on daily basis so no.

No you don't, we both know you're fat.

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@ghosts4ever: Yes that makes sense. SP only = competitive, MP = casual.

Casuals play everything. So I guess that means you cant play anything.

Also why MP games have matchmaking, to separate the tiers of players (comp/casual) but, you wouldnt know that as you don't play MP.

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@dxmcat said:

@ghosts4ever: Yes that makes sense. SP only = competitive, MP = casual.

Casuals play everything. So I guess that means you cant play anything.

Also why MP games have matchmaking, to separate the tiers of players (comp/casual) but, you wouldnt know that as you don't play MP.

Then explain why PUBG and Dota is full of casuals non gamers??

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@ghosts4ever said:
@warmblur said:

Good but still that UI sucks to colorful for a DOOM game.

https://www.vg247.com/2019/06/17/doom-eternal-ui/

UI is customizable.

Good to know ty.

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@ghosts4ever: Whats there to explain? Have you played in the upper mm tiers? They do exist ya know. Just because you hide in the SP world doesn't mean they don't exist.

Almost every game has mm and/or some sort of ranking system. You don't see top 500 ow players that are potatoes. (granted i hate that game now, but still proves my point)

Yeesh, open a window or something.

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@dxmcat said:

@ghosts4ever: Whats there to explain? Have you played in the upper mm tiers? They do exist ya know. Just because you hide in the SP world doesn't mean they don't exist.

Almost every game has mm and/or some sort of ranking system. You don't see top 500 ow players that are potatoes. (granted i hate that game now, but still proves my point)

Yeesh, open a window or something.

I played bunch of MP games and got bored in hours or so.

the only MP game i was addicted to was Team fortress 2 before it got ruined.

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Cool, so competition isnt for you.

I like more than 10-20 hours of gameplay. Wanna talk about boring? playing the same campaign over and over.

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This is good news! I thought DOOM (2016) was a good value given the sheer enjoyment I got from it plus the replayability, a longer single-player experience would be very welcome.

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#42  Edited By mrbojangles25
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@ghosts4ever said:
@dxmcat said:

@ghosts4ever: Whats there to explain? Have you played in the upper mm tiers? They do exist ya know. Just because you hide in the SP world doesn't mean they don't exist.

Almost every game has mm and/or some sort of ranking system. You don't see top 500 ow players that are potatoes. (granted i hate that game now, but still proves my point)

Yeesh, open a window or something.

I played bunch of MP games and got bored in hours or so.

the only MP game i was addicted to was Team fortress 2 before it got ruined.

Yeah I am in the same boat.

I used to play multiplayer games because of the value; singleplayer games eventually ended before I could really afford to purchase another game, so I resorted to buying multiplayer games because I could play those for months if I had to.

But I don't have to any more thanks to a disposable income (not a lot, but enough), so I really have not touched much multiplayer recently except for maybe some co-op stuff.

I'm not against multiplayer games inherently, I just think singleplayer offers a richer experience and you see more innovation.

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@Sgt_Crow said:

I thought you hated long games (15+ hrs)?

@i_p_daily said:

@ghosts4ever: You hypocrite, you tried to argue that the best games were 12-15 hrs long, and now 18-22 Is great. What a pathetic shill you are.

I quoted the both of us and made sure ghost will see it again.

He has replied to other people in this thread, but not us I wonder why?

Hey ghost do you remember saying "history did show that most of best games fall in that length" and that length you're referring to is between 12-15hrs lol.

The only thing history has shown is that you're a hypocrite & a Doom shill.

Have a nice day :)

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#44  Edited By BassMan
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I hope there are more levels like Foundry. That level is great.

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ID made ghost act like a girl lol “OMG OMG “ hahaha

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@getyeryayasout said:

Speaking of longer SP...where's SecretPolice been?

He's on an undercover job. I heard on the down low he's sabotaging the Sony/Disney Spider-Man deal lol.

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@i_p_daily said:
@Sgt_Crow said:

I thought you hated long games (15+ hrs)?

@i_p_daily said:

@ghosts4ever: You hypocrite, you tried to argue that the best games were 12-15 hrs long, and now 18-22 Is great. What a pathetic shill you are.

I quoted the both of us and made sure ghost will see it again.

He has replied to other people in this thread, but not us I wonder why?

Hey ghost do you remember saying "history did show that most of best games fall in that length" and that length you're referring to is between 12-15hrs lol.

The only thing history has shown is that you're a hypocrite & a Doom shill.

Have a nice day :)

I wonder why Ghost won't reply???

PS...this is soooooo much fun lol.