Doom Eternal Next Gen Upgrade "Screws ps5 players..."

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#1  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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https://kotaku.com/doom-eternal-s-next-gen-upgrade-screws-ps5-players-1847197575

Apparently you are not capable of bringing your save file from ps4 to ps5 in the upgrade... Ps5 owners will have to start fresh.

Do you think all upgraded games should allow access to your previous gen save files the way some modern games are doing? Does this stink for the Sony defense force or will they shake another hit off and keep charging forward!?

Also, I've never played doom... Everyone here always posts about how mediocre it is so I never bothered... :P

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@TheEroica said:

https://kotaku.com/doom-eternal-s-next-gen-upgrade-screws-ps5-players-1847197575

Apparently you are not capable of bringing your save file from ps4 to ps5 in the upgrade... Ps5 owners will have to start fresh.

Do you think all upgraded games should allow access to your previous gen save files the way some modern games are doing? Does this stink for the Sony defense force or will they shake another hit off and keep charging forward!?

Also, I've never played doom... Everyone here always posts about how mediocre it is so I never bothered... :P

Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal in particular is the finest shooter ever created from a mechanical standpoint. Even the platforming is sweet in Eternal.

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#3 TheEroica  Moderator
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@casey-wegner: sniper? You are Casey?

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That's on Bethesda. Crappy company.

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@casey-wegner: sniper? You are Casey?

So all along ghost has been another lemming alt in disguise. How embarrassing.

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Probably has to do with the two different file systems that they use for saves between the PS4 and PS5 or something like that. Not sure what they have to do to convert it over but they should be able to do though. Might be a bit of a complex issue though.

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Hahaha that's awesome!

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@TheEroica: Dude definitely is not OG Casey

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Guys, I don’t think that Eroica is being serious that Casey is Ghost. 😂

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@TheEroica said:

@casey-wegner: sniper? You are Casey?

So all along ghost has been another lemming alt in disguise. How embarrassing.

Why do you keep getting away with derailing threads with your alt conspiracies? Go get some fresh air or something.

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@Archangel3371 said:

Probably has to do with the two different file systems that they use for saves between the PS4 and PS5 or something like that. Not sure what they have to do to convert it over but they should be able to do though. Might be a bit of a complex issue though.

nah it's lack of features PS offers that I often see people blame on the devs when PS is the only system lacking the features. Cross saves, controller remapping, etc just basic things that should be done at a system level

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Every other company knows how to do this for PS5 what's the deal Beth? We know what you did here.

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Controller+doom eternal🤢

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@darkangel115: Oh yeah it no doubt sounds like the PS5 is missing some key features, at least from what I’ve heard. I thought that I heard something about needing to convert PS4 saves to a different file format for the PS5. I guess that’s a missing feature for cross saves though.

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I don’t understand the hype for these games. The music is great, and it runs well on even a potato PC. But the shoot guys til they glow a color, then melee them gets old fast. And the find the key card to open the door level design was played out decades ago.

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Is this Bethesda's fault, or Sony's?

I'd like to think if it was easy enough to do they'd have done it, but apparently it would require enough effort to not make it a viable thing.

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@wonderwinner: Rumor has it from many unnamed sources who only spoke with me that ps5 didn't have the power to transfer a save file...

ps5 ftl... :'(

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#18 darkangel115
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@Archangel3371 said:

@darkangel115: Oh yeah it no doubt sounds like the PS5 is missing some key features, at least from what I’ve heard. I thought that I heard something about needing to convert PS4 saves to a different file format for the PS5. I guess that’s a missing feature for cross saves though.

yeah it's missing a lot but the 2 big ones IMO are cross saves and button mapping. I see it a lot on specific game forums when people complain about not having a button map in the game and i'm like it's not needed because every platform lets you remap at the system level including sensitivity except for PS. people should be on sony to add these features instead of blasting the devs for having to do extra work due to sony missing stuff they should have. but fanboys will be fanboys

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Played both DOOM Eternal and Returnal, and they're both great games, but Returnal is the better game.

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hasn't transferring save files from the PS4 to PS5 been an issue for every game?

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#21  Edited By Pedro  Online
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The PS5 sucks at cross-saves.

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#22 TheEroica  Moderator
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@Chutebox: definitely not...

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@darkangel115: Yeah those certainly seem like two big missing features for sure. The PS5 is pretty much fully backwards compatible with the PS4. Right? So why would it not support cross save with that system and it’s games? Seems really odd to me.

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@Chutebox said:

@TheEroica: Dude definitely is not OG Casey

How was the OG casey? I somehow missed all his shit, even tho i was around before his ban.

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I don’t understand the hype for these games. The music is great, and it runs well on even a potato PC. But the shoot guys til they glow a color, then melee them gets old fast. And the find the key card to open the door level design was played out decades ago.

THE MOMENTUM is the deal.

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@hardwenzen: He was fine. Never saw him as a fanboy

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#28 TheEroica  Moderator
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@hardwenzen: he was a mod who took things a little too serious....

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#29 hardwenzen
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@TheEroica said:

@hardwenzen: he was a mod who took things a little too serious....

@Chutebox said:

@hardwenzen: He was fine. Never saw him as a fanboy

I remember him being a mod, but i never understood in what way he took it too serious. And i had no idea SW had its own site🤣

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@goldenelementxl said:

I don’t understand the hype for these games. The music is great, and it runs well on even a potato PC. But the shoot guys til they glow a color, then melee them gets old fast. And the find the key card to open the door level design was played out decades ago.

It's mindless repetition but that's the point. It's like a fun summer blockbuster that you probably shouldn't think too deeply about. It's flash and style, and if you just want to turn your noggin off for a bit its good fun.

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@wonderwinner: 'That's on Bethesda. Crappy company'

Bethesda didn't develop Doom Eternal 🤦‍♂️

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#33  Edited By Pedro  Online
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@theam0g said:

@wonderwinner: 'That's on Bethesda. Crappy company'

Bethesda didn't develop Doom Eternal 🤦‍♂️

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@hardwenzen said:

i had no idea SW had its own site🤣

What in the actual ****?

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@lebanese_boy said:
@hardwenzen said:

i had no idea SW had its own site🤣

What in the actual ****?

This place was like gaf in its prime and the current resetera, a big deal some may say, but no devs have ever ventured on System Wars.

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I thought you cows believed in generations. Well guess what? Moving to a new generation means losing your saves. Unless, of course, you’re on Xbox. Smart Delivery FTW. XBOX players literally just wake up one morning and the upgrade is there. 😁

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@hardwenzen said:
@lebanese_boy said:
@hardwenzen said:

i had no idea SW had its own site🤣

What in the actual ****?

This place was like gaf in its prime and the current resetera, a big deal some may say, but no devs have ever ventured on System Wars.

The Ghost interview is the best.

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#38  Edited By hardwenzen
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@fedor said:
@hardwenzen said:
@lebanese_boy said:
@hardwenzen said:

i had no idea SW had its own site🤣

What in the actual ****?

This place was like gaf in its prime and the current resetera, a big deal some may say, but no devs have ever ventured on System Wars.

The Ghost interview is the best.

whhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? LOL

And after heaving read the "interview", this couldn't more Ghost 🤣

"Any last words for System Wars?

System Wars is an entertaining place. I enjoy being here, trolling here, making threads, etc."

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@hardwenzen said:
@fedor said:
@hardwenzen said:

This place was like gaf in its prime and the current resetera, a big deal some may say, but no devs have ever ventured on System Wars.

The Ghost interview is the best.

whhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? LOL

And after heaving read the "interview", this couldn't more Ghost 🤣

"Any last words for System Wars?

System Wars is an entertaining place. I enjoy being here, trolling here, making threads, etc."

Ok now I need to read more on that site whenever I'm bored 😂

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@casey-wegner said:
@TheEroica said:

https://kotaku.com/doom-eternal-s-next-gen-upgrade-screws-ps5-players-1847197575

Apparently you are not capable of bringing your save file from ps4 to ps5 in the upgrade... Ps5 owners will have to start fresh.

Do you think all upgraded games should allow access to your previous gen save files the way some modern games are doing? Does this stink for the Sony defense force or will they shake another hit off and keep charging forward!?

Also, I've never played doom... Everyone here always posts about how mediocre it is so I never bothered... :P

Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal in particular is the finest shooter ever created from a mechanical standpoint. Even the platforming is sweet in Eternal.

of course. they are among 2 of greatest FPS of all time bar none.

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#41  Edited By lamprey263
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Other devs get around this by having saves uploaded to publisher server and re-accessed on the next console. So, since wasn't in game's original design, MS would have to foot the bill for the additional servers. Sony gamers will just have to miss out. Not to mention, MS would have to foot the bill for patch certification costs to update that feature. Just giving PS5 gamers the game should be good enough. They should feel lucky they're even getting that, but they don't feel that because they're entitled.

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#42 HalcyonScarlet
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PS aren't that forward thinking. They just continue the last good formula. On Xbox I can bounce my save game between devices.

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#43  Edited By ocinom
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If you like the game so much then play on a new save. This is some first world problems whining

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#44  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@ocinom said:

If you like the game so much then play on a new save. This is some first world problems whining

You're not wrong. I'm happily playing Ninja Gaiden 2 and Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 side by side. I don't mind at all replaying the game and making fresh saves.

Same with the Arkham games on different devices, Ace Combat... I don't mind.

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@hardwenzen: there have been some community members who dev for companies that post on system wars. Not anymore tho...

Also, you guys know Jack Septic Eye from YouTube fame? He was a community member here for a few years. Great guy.

We had a podcast, website, game nights.... At its height, we'd gather and watch E3 together online.

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@TheEroica said:

@hardwenzen: there have been some community members who dev for companies that post on system wars. Not anymore tho...

Also, you guys know Jack Septic Eye from YouTube fame? He was a community member here for a few years. Great guy.

We had a podcast, website, game nights.... At its height, we'd gather and watch E3 together online.

He's in that new film as well.

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#47  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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@gym_lion: I saw that he was in a movie... Man, I remember him starting. He'd tag his videos in his sig for posting on sw hoping people would watch.

One day pewdiepie mentioned him.... The rest is history.

He'd do our podcast quite a bit. Loved horror games and dark souls.

.... The old days!

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:P

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#49 hardwenzen
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@TheEroica said:

@hardwenzen: there have been some community members who dev for companies that post on system wars. Not anymore tho...

Also, you guys know Jack Septic Eye from YouTube fame? He was a community member here for a few years. Great guy.

We had a podcast, website, game nights.... At its height, we'd gather and watch E3 together online.

Yea, i knew about the podcast and of course Jack, who i've seen commenting in here a few times after he became what he is now. But this is the first time i hear of a site that has a sheep, cow and a lem section🤣interviewing SW people and even have a Ghost interview in threre lol.

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@darkangel115: Yeah those certainly seem like two big missing features for sure. The PS5 is pretty much fully backwards compatible with the PS4. Right? So why would it not support cross save with that system and it’s games? Seems really odd to me.

it's public backlash that gets a lot done. the hardcore sony fans will accept whatever they are given and never ask for more so they have no reason too. they have the largest fanbase, the best console sales, and their customers will accept anything and thank them for it all while praising them at every turn and shitting on their competition. Why would they spend time and resources to add things that doesn't benefit them? That is why competition is good. Cows are too dumb to realize they are shortchanging themselves with their behavior.