Do you consider Shadow of the Colossus a masterpiece?

https://youtu.be/_zCCmeL1lRY

^ they’re already doing let’s plays of the PS4 remake. I consider this game to be one of Sony’s best. One of the rare games that stand the test of time. Do you agree, SW? Will you be getting this version?

Remember cows don't like old games, so I will await the hypocrisy that is sure to ensue...

I'm not the biggest SotC fan in the world, but I'm pretty close. It's one of Sony's greatest accomplishments as a narrative and artistic piece, even though its mechanics and performance bore a lot of frustrations. I'm anxious and excited to see which liberties Bluehole has taken in its rebuild.

Now if only others would love Tearaway too.

My only real problem with calling it a masterpiece is that I would then have to dig through my thesaurus to find an adjective for "Ico," which I think is an even better game.

I do consider it a great game. However, the same game is on its third release.

No, I've tried it twice, but the controls kill it for me.

What was wrong with the controls?

No, not really. I have the PS3 version and tried playing it a few times but I just couldn’t get into it. I tried Ico when it came out on the PS2 and couldn’t get into that either. Watched a couple of hours worth of The Last Guardian and didn’t find that all that interesting either. I’ve come to the realization that Team Ico’s games just really aren’t for me.

Their games tend to be more on the journey than the traditional games in which there is some degree of accomplishment with the exception of Shadow of The Colossus which had the most goal oriented gameplay.

Wasn't for me.

Slow, jank, and ultimately feel unresponsive. I get that they're supposedly like that on purpose, but I hate it when gameplay suffers for artistic reasoning.

No. It's like a 4 outta 5 for me. A 3 when I'm not feeling good about it.

Yes, it's an amazing game and one of my favorite ps2 games. I have the ps3 version so I might have to play that soon and revisit the game.

@Pedro: Yeah that’s true.

That's how I feel about Resident Evil games. So, I feel you.

@i_p_daily: Lol. True.

So are they going to remake legend of dragoon and Spyro the dragon too?

There were a few moments where I loved it, but probably 60% of the game I found to be an exercise in frustration.

lol, I also feel that way about Resident Evil. I can't get into the games because of the controls either.

@i_p_daily said:

Remember cows don't like old games, so I will await the hypocrisy that is sure to ensue...

They only like old games when they gotta pay 40+ dollars for it.

Yes and I can't wait for the remake.

Its awesome. Masterpiece, i rarely calling a video game a masterpiece, if ever, because for something to be considered a masterpiece it needs to be on point in every single aspect of it. Even 10/10 games are not. Very veeery rare to consider something as one. I love this game and i think is one of my all time classics but i wouldnt call it masterpiece.

Never played it, so I have no idea.

It's a wonderful game in many ways, but it is held back from perfection due to poor mechanics - the game was built around incredibly precise controls and then didn't come with incredibly precise controls. There's nothing worse than failing because the character moves in the wrong way or grip/hit detection fails

This is one of the few Sony exclusives that looked appealing to me.

However, I question any <10 hour long game being a masterpiece.

Yes but for its time. I don't think the controls aged well. It was better when I first played it. But I still like it. I'm going to get the remaster/remake.

Length shouldn't be that great of a factor in a games greatness.

@UssjTrunks: Why? Seriously why would the length of a game make or break it's ability to be a masterpiece or not? Mario Bros on the nes is a masterpiece and can be beaten in 5 minutes if you know what you're doing. Unless the games length absolutely affects the game in a negative way it shouldn't really be a factor. Like if Shadow of the Colossus only had 2 bosses to beat, you'd have a legit complaint about it, but that's not the case here.

I've read you can change the control scheme and make the button placement feel more modern, which makes it easier and better.

I'm not gonna lie....I never played any version of it. It's a game I have always had my eye on, but never actually bought. I don't see me buying the remaster at launch either. It is a game I will keep in mind during those usually empty summer months though.

Absolutely. One of the best games ever made. Still play it on PS2 emulator.

I love it. Played on PS2 and replayed it on PS3. I don't need a 3rd play through on PS4.

I liked it, but I liked The Last Guardian even more.

Yes it is. Every game Fumito Ueda makes is a masterpiece. ICO deserves the same treatment

@i_p_daily said:

Remember cows don't like old games, so I will await the hypocrisy that is sure to ensue...

No, no, no, they don't like Free BC Remasters and enhanced games given to X gamers.

Now then, if Phony charges them for old games sorta remastered, well then, peachy keen and thank you Phony. lolol :P

The thing is, both ICO and Shadow of the Colossus are masterpieces in their own right. Both are fantastic games and were some of the best games of the PS2 era.

It is a masterpiece for me. It is as great as the first Pokémon games.

Yeah...although I guess that's sentiment that games as a medium have gotten to that age they can now preserve and remind of the classics with re-releases to future generations that maybe never got a chance to experience them back then like we did...Just look at movies - Disney has released Pinocchio for like the fiftieth time now, and because future generations indeed need to experience a classic like Pinocchio. As long as the game industry as a whole doesn't fall under this to the point it jeopardizes the odds of us getting new experiences, I don't think it's a big deal. It looks like they did a good job putting a new coat of paint on this one.

I think re-releases for games should be treated solely for reaching out to newer generations that didn't get a chance to play them respectively during their times...re-releasing games the immediate year after its release to gamer's that already bought them I think is doing re-releases wrong. The average new generation will NOT go back and buy the NES or PSX just to play old games. That is a very niche thing to do and you might as well call yourself a gaming historian if you collect thirty-year-old products.

Yes, only played the original in PS2.

oh ya, definitely. i played games since the Nes and Dos, but since playing Sotc and mgs2/mgs3 on the ps2 something changed. although i'm playing alot of games i do consider myself a gamer.

yes i will definitely play the remaster.

never heard of the game.

true story

@i_p_daily: When did cows say they didnt like old games?

Yeah man one of the GOAT and still influencing other GOAT. Its looking good but I would like to know what were the suggestions that Ueda sent to Sony and if they implemented them or not. Its great what bluepoint has done but come on Sony spend more money on it.

Yes

Thank you Sony

im only basing my opinion on the PS2 version. i havent played the remasters.

its a great idea not well executed. eurogamer, in a retrospective many years ago, summed it up the best. its a game that leaves amazing memories but actually playing it is quite frustrating.

shoddy performance, sloppy controls and character handling...i remember getting quite frustrated with it at times. it probably would have been better if they moved it to being a PS3 launch title. i think it was a bridge too far for the ol PS2.

but the art direction, the soundtrack, the concept itself, the beasts themselves....yeah the game leaves an impression. but its no masterpiece. the actual gameplay lets it down.

...and now im going to go listen to the soundtrack.

I have the new version pre-ordered since is one game I regret never playing. But at the same time after TLG I'm deeply concerned about the gameplay. TLG would have been amazing if it wasn't for one of the worst gameplays ever in any game. Atrocious!