Do Fighting Games Even Need a Story?

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#1 Mawy_Golomb
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What's the point of including a story within a game from a genre that has no chance of offering a deep narrative? If anything, it really makes that part of the game look bad, hurting the rest of the overall quality of the game. Sure, most gamers could care less here or there, but I still would say that keeping it as short and simple as what sports or racing titles do (minus ones like Crash Team Racing, etc.) is better. Plus, it's wasted effort to have a writer only put down a few lines of dialogue or story elements. Do you really want to pay somebody good money for what otherwise will be little-to-no work at all?

Maybe if games tried to minimize or eliminate those elements which made them look worse, we would see more respect from critics like Roger Ebert.

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#2 OneSanitarium
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No, they don't.

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#3 Swift_Boss_A
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I prefer it but it's not absolutely necessary, just helps having some knowledge of the characters and a cutscene or two. Actually the reason I enjoyed Tekken a lot is because of the arcade ending videos for each character, same with DOA. Gameplay aside of course.

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#4 Aquaunitpatrol
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Mortal Kombat would be crap without a story.
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#5 madsnakehhh
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Not really, but i would be lying if i said that i haven't enjoyed some of the lores like in Blazblue (very Anime) or KOF (Only the Orochi Saga), but overall figthing games don't really need any sort of story.

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#6 foxhound_fox
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MK9's was great and got me to buy a $70 fighting game and play it for some 50+ hours. So yes.
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#7 RyanShazam
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It is unnecessary. It is nice to learn about the characters though.
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#8 princemarth23
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MK9's was great and got me to buy a $70 fighting game and play it for some 50+ hours. So yes.foxhound_fox

Agreed. Not to sound like a hater though, but Story mode was really the only thing I liked in that game.

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#9 AcidSoldner
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No, they don't but the fleshed out story mode in Mortal Kombat 9 was a very welcome addition.

Hope more fighting games follow suit.

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#10 mrmusicman247
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They don't need one but I think they are better if they actually have one.
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#11 Aquaunitpatrol
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[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]No, they don't but the fleshed out story mode in Mortal Kombat 9 was a very welcome addition. Hope more fighting games follow suit.

Mortal Kombat has alwyas has a story every game, if nobody followed then no one will follow now.
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#12 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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No. It doesn't.
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#13 Inconsistancy
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Not really, I've never played one that had a good story. Suppose Soul Caliber has a decent framework to have one, with that campaign mode thing, if that were more fleshed out, and the enemies more varied and less cheesy...
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#14 OneSanitarium
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If a fighting can't be called good for the gameplay alone, then it is a bad game.

Having a story won't magically save it.

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#15 Chemical_Viking
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They don't need one. Few genres NEED one, but there are plenty of genres which are better with a half decent story.

Having said that, Mortal Kombat's recent story mode made the game brilliant. I loved it. It forced you to rely on characters you wouldn't usually bother with.

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#16 thecreechxxx
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I liked having background for the characters, but prior to MK9 i would have said no. Now that I have played it, I would say it isn't mandatory, but I think everyone should do it.
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#17 Litchie
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No. But I do enjoy laughing because of how bad they are.
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#18 mitu123
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No, but they can be useful like MK9 for example, not many fighters have something like that.

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#19 Narcadox
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I prefere to play a fighting game with a Story. I like fighting games but I'm not very good so a story gives me extra incentive to stick with it. I much prefer Tekken and Mortal Kombat (even Vs. DC) over Street Fighter and Marvel Vs. Capcom simply because Tekken and Mortal Kombat have more of a plot than a fancy into movie that explains nothing and a couple of irrelevant comic book pages.
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#20 vincent380
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not really but MK did a great job explaining the story with the last game. It actually made sense
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#21 starwarsjunky
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games like MK2 back in the day did fine without one, but i prefer when they add it in.
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#22 nintendoboy16
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No, but they can be useful like MK9 for example, not many fighters have something like that.

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Story modes were seen in something like anime based fighters before. Like in Dragon Ball Z: Budokai for example.
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#23 skrat_01
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No, but they are a reward for players who complete the story component with a character. Personally I think there's still tons of inventive things you could do in regard to story this side of fighting games, even in regard to something as basic as street fighter, without changing the core intrinsic gameplay. Deep narrative? Well then you'd have to explore the games systems then. Problem is developers usually pop something like a fighting game with the network of a linear narrative - in a basic ladder progression as every tournament fighter is. Now an alternative, maybe offering framed narrative (take Left 4 Dead's original idea of completely separate campaigns like 'short films') or singleplayer vignettes (Clerks with punching people in the face) and you could have something pretty damn interesting. But that's all me spouting high flying concepts.
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#24 Mr_BillGates
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They are there just to make sense of everything.

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#25 BrunoBRS
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*looks at blazblue* if they can pull it, other games should at least try it.
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#26 Aquaunitpatrol
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games like MK2 back in the day did fine without one, but i prefer when they add it in.starwarsjunky
MK2 had one.
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#27 AzatiS
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No they dont but why not to have a story in the end? I dont get you. Where is the problem? You dont buy fighting games for their story in the first place...
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#28 AzatiS
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games like MK2 back in the day did fine without one, but i prefer when they add it in.starwarsjunky
Sorry but almost all MKs had story.... Some more some less, but all MKs had.
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#29 DerekLoffin
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I think yes if it wants good sales. Most hard core fighter players won't care in the least, but a good chunk of buys actually do desire it, and losing it greatly reduces the appeal of the game, even though it is trivial. It's kinda like the paint job on your car, something trivial, completely non-functional, yet a lot of people feel it very important.
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#30 starwarsjunky
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[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"]games like MK2 back in the day did fine without one, but i prefer when they add it in.AzatiS
Sorry but almost all MKs had story.... Some more some less, but all MKs had.

just a piece of text you read. its not really a story mode...
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#31 WarTornRuston
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They should but after seeing the stories that have came from the Japanese fighters they are probably better off not trying.

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#32 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="AzatiS"][QUOTE="starwarsjunky"]games like MK2 back in the day did fine without one, but i prefer when they add it in.starwarsjunky
Sorry but almost all MKs had story.... Some more some less, but all MKs had.

just a piece of text you read. its not really a story mode...

But it IS a story. And story modes have moments where you read text. Take Naruto: Clash of Ninja 1 and 2 for instance, those game's story mode relied on text and voices.

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#33 DarkLink77
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They don't need one, no. But a few of them do benefit the game (Mortal Kombat, Guilty Gear, Blazblue, etc).

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#34 starwarsjunky
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[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"][QUOTE="AzatiS"] Sorry but almost all MKs had story.... Some more some less, but all MKs had.nintendoboy16

just a piece of text you read. its not really a story mode...

But it IS a story. And story modes have moments where you read text. Take Naruto: Clash of Ninja 1 and 2 for instance, those game's story mode relied on text and voices.

the only thing is that the only way you get any story at all is after you beat the ladder with someone...its just a bonus for beating it...
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#35 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="starwarsjunky"] just a piece of text you read. its not really a story mode...starwarsjunky

But it IS a story. And story modes have moments where you read text. Take Naruto: Clash of Ninja 1 and 2 for instance, those game's story mode relied on text and voices.

the only thing is that the only way you get any story at all is after you beat the ladder with someone...its just a bonus for beating it...

Mortal Kombat II's story intro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AWrLYpXAcE

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#36 fadersdream
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Yes.

That is what seperates them from being nostalgic to being current. If you really want to see them make a return then a story is essential. People seem to forget that fighting games always had a story, they just couldn't devote much memory to it... and the best fighting games are remembered for their stories.

Who doesn't know Ryu's story?

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#37 AtlanticRock
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The King of Fighters story is the reason why I played EVERY single one(also the reason why I hated XII).

The merging of the Art of Fighting and Fatal Fury series to make one universal game; incredible.

Watching Kensou lose his powers in the NESTS saga, Iori and Kyo teaming up to stop Orochi, and Ash becoming the new main villain... yeah story is VERY important in my fighting games.

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Street Fighter has a TERRIBLE storyline but the gameplay and colorful cast of characters makes up for it.

Most fighters don't need a story(like the cross overs) but it helps to have one.

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Mortal Kombat 9 is a prime example of story done very well in a fighter.

Other examples: Guilty Gear, King of Fighters, and Street Fighter Alpha series.

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#38 mrmusicman247
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Also, I like having motivation for a fight before I fight. A good story can provide that.
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#39 WilliamRLBaker
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yes, I wont play most games unless they have atleast some story.

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#40 Crazyguy105
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Nope.

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#41 farslip
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It can be nice to have one but some stories make no sense. Characters die and some how are brought back to fight in the tournament(Tekken). Why not have them die in the story but still have them available in the game just without a story mode.

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#42 OneSanitarium
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It can be nice to have one but some stories make no sense. Characters die and some how are brought back to fight in the tournament(Tekken). Why not have them die in the story but still have them available in the game just without a story mode.

farslip

King of Fighters doesn't let dead characters be a part of a roster unless they are revived through story means. They have Dream Matches, remakes of some games but with more characters. These characters have nothing to do with story, so they can be dead even if they died in a previous game.

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#43 mmmwksil
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Guilty Gear got by without a story. Best fighter ever.

"You look strong. Let's fight."

Duel One, LET'S ROCK!

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#44 NeonNinja
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No, they don't. I honestly hate how many freaking fighting games include some half-baked story. Instead of doing that, gimme more levels or characters or something. I don't need a reason to punch people in the face. Assault is my middle name damn it!

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#45 OneSanitarium
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Guilty Gear got by without a story. Best fighter ever.

"You look strong. Let's fight."

Duel One, LET'S ROCK!

mmmwksil

Guilty Gear has a huge story, it's just not all piled in one game.

Look at the novels, comics, and drama CD's.

It's a pretty deep story too.

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#46 theking52_TDK
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The last Mortal Kombat had a pretty awesome story mode. I actually played through it cause I wanted to know what was going to happen. If more fighters put that much effort into it then sure, story would be good. Otherwise if they're more like well...a ny Capcom's fighting games then no, no story needed.

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#47 mmmwksil
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

Guilty Gear got by without a story. Best fighter ever.

"You look strong. Let's fight."

Duel One, LET'S ROCK!

OneSanitarium

Guilty Gear has a huge story, it's just not all piled in one game.

Look at the novels, comics, and drama CD's.

It's a pretty deep story too.

I'll take your word for it, OS. But honestly what snippets I took in during XXAC+ (I got into the series REAL late :P) were laughable IMO.

Still, it's the gameplay that matters most, anyway. ;)

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#48 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

Guilty Gear got by without a story. Best fighter ever.

"You look strong. Let's fight."

Duel One, LET'S ROCK!

OneSanitarium

Guilty Gear has a huge story, it's just not all piled in one game.

Look at the novels, comics, and drama CD's.

It's a pretty deep story too.

^This. GG's story is awesome, but you really have to dig into the other material to get it.
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#49 OneSanitarium
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[QUOTE="OneSanitarium"]

[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

Guilty Gear got by without a story. Best fighter ever.

"You look strong. Let's fight."

Duel One, LET'S ROCK!

mmmwksil

Guilty Gear has a huge story, it's just not all piled in one game.

Look at the novels, comics, and drama CD's.

It's a pretty deep story too.

I'll take your word for it, OS. But honestly what snippets I took in during XXAC+ (I got into the series REAL late :P) were laughable IMO.

Still, it's the gameplay that matters most, anyway. ;)

Dude, I-no actually said, in game (something along the lines of) "Well this is a pain in my ass, and not the kind I like."

The dialogue in GGXXAC+ is awesome.

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#50 mmmwksil
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Dude, I-no actually said, in game (something along the lines of) "Well this is a pain in my ass, and not the kind I like."

The dialogue in GGXXAC+ is awesome.

OneSanitarium

Zat so? Been so long I honestly can't recall :P

And to be honest, after a point I just mashed on the buttons during cutscenes to finish the story mode. I just didn't care anymore.