DF: NBA 2K21 - A Proper Generational Leap?

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#1  Edited By Zero_epyon
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  • Players and materials appear more natural on next gen consoles
  • The next gen version has an overhauled UI that takes advantage of the storage and graphics capabilities
  • PS5 loads instantly vs 28 seconds on PS4 Pro
  • PS5 and Series X runs at native 4K and are virtually identical visually
  • Series S runs at native 1080p at similar next gen quality
  • The game runs at 60fps during gameplay and 30fps during replays
  • Series X runs at 60 fps with a few odd frame drops
  • PS5 also runs at 60 fps with no frame drops
  • Series S also runs at 60 fps
  • Parametric camera makes the framerate drop more often on Series X
  • PS5 does not drop in a similar test with similar camera angles
  • Series S has minor dips but not a bad as X
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#2 SecretPolice
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No interest whatsoever in the sport anymore. :P

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#3 DaVillain  Moderator  Online
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It's his Beard that's a huge leap is what I got out of DF comparison and I gotta admit, I like it!

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#4 sakaiXx
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Presentation is important in a Sports game so glad at least devs tried. Personally just wait till next year, the first year attempts usually is very buggy in sports game.

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#5 JasonOfA36
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And we'll see the same visuals for the next set of games until next-gen arrives. Rinse and repeat.

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#6 deactivated-628e6669daebe
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Congrats to PS5 for the flawless 60fps

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@ghost_of_phobos said:

Congrats to PS5 for the flawless 60fps

I give your post 24 fps

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@ghost_of_phobos: Was that in the vid or is that other footage?

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@SecretPolice said:

No interest whatsoever in the sport anymore. :P

Sports games?

I thought these were gambling simulators :O

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#10 regnaston
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@Pedro said:

@ghost_of_phobos: Was that in the vid or is that other footage?

cinematic scenes drop to 30fps so that 54fps is part of the transition between the two

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#11 Phlop_Spencer
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It’s official - the PS5 is stronger than the XSX. Nearly every single comparison favours the PS5 it’s undeniable at this point. Concede you filthy lemmings

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#12 SecretPolice
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@R4gn4r0k:

What was I thinking...

lol :P

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@phlop_spencer: OK I love this one!

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#14  Edited By Pedro
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@regnaston: Gotcha👍

EDIT: Its amazing how much time Sony fannies spend on the Xbox. 😂

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#15 Chutebox
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Screw the NBA

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Just you wait
Just you wait

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#17 deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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Add 2K21 to the list!

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#18 Juub1990
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@SecretPolice said:

No interest whatsoever in the sport anymore. :P

Since it became about whatever superteam has the least amount of injured player in the playoffs?

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#19 SecretPolice
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@Juub1990 said:
@SecretPolice said:

No interest whatsoever in the sport anymore. :P

Since it became about whatever superteam has the least amount of injured player in the playoffs?

Eh, mostly been done with all pro sports for a while now. Sometimes I just can't believe how much of my time and frustration I wasted over the decades with all the crying millionaires playing a kids game. lol

High school and college ball I'm still cool with. :P

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#20 Xplode_games
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I'm not a basketball fan but the game looks amazing. I hope they come out with a new boxing game for the X/S and PS5.

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@SecretPolice said:

@R4gn4r0k:

What was I thinking...

lol :P

LOL I just can't stop laughing to this.

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@Xplode_games said:

I'm not a basketball fan but the game looks amazing. I hope they come out with a new boxing game for the X/S and PS5.

Man I would love a boxing game.

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#23 Juub1990
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@SecretPolice said:

Eh, mostly been done with all pro sports for a while now. Sometimes I just can't believe how much of my time and frustration I wasted over the decades with all the crying millionaires playing a kids game. lol

High school and college ball I'm still cool with. :P

Oh I'm with you on that one. I wouldn't say I'm "done" but I seldom watch and just barely keep up with the news. I remember when i was younger and I used to lose sleep or be mad a whole day over my team losing an important game. Then I realized I had no control over any of it and I took it way seriously.

I still like to watch every once in a while but yeah, watching games is no longer on my weekly schedule. I catch boxing matches but huge ones only come a few times a year and they're huge events with friends and a ton of fun. Plus they require much less fan investment.

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#24 SecretPolice
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@Juub1990 said:
@SecretPolice said:

Eh, mostly been done with all pro sports for a while now. Sometimes I just can't believe how much of my time and frustration I wasted over the decades with all the crying millionaires playing a kids game. lol

High school and college ball I'm still cool with. :P

Oh I'm with you on that one. I wouldn't say I'm "done" but I seldom watch and just barely keep up with the news. I remember when i was younger and I used to lose sleep or be mad a whole day over my team losing an important game. Then I realized I had no control over any of it and I took it way seriously.

I still like to watch every once in a while but yeah, watching games is no longer on my weekly schedule. I catch boxing matches but huge ones only come a few times a year and they're huge events with friends and a ton of fun. Plus they require much less fan investment.

Bold.. My goodness yes. Stuff like that would spoil an otherwise great weekend.

I do from time to time watch a little bit but nowhere near the investment I used to make in the past rooting for my hometown teams and being somewhat emotionally invested as well.

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It's a sports title in an arena. How hard is it to not drop frames?

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#26 Zero_epyon
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@BenjaminBanklin said:

It's a sports title in an arena. How hard is it to not drop frames?

Well all of those spectators are 3D animated models so rendering the full court plus all the other stuff going on in the court could stress the GPU.

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#27 Phlop_Spencer
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@Zero_epyon: you’re correct. And in this case PS5 handles the gpu stress better than XSx is would appear

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#28 tormentos
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I see another one for the PS5..

But is going to end soon, early next year the tie will change, just wait for the series X newest GDK.

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#29 Pedro
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@tormentos said:

I see another one for the PS5..

But is going to end soon, early next year the tie will change, just wait for the series X newest GDK.

Are you saying this is the status quo for the rest of the generation?

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#30 Archangel3371
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Looks nice and all but unfortunately, or fortunately perhaps, I don’t give two hoots about basketball. Hockey is my sport of choice.

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#31 Zero_epyon
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@phlop_spencer said:

@Zero_epyon: you’re correct. And in this case PS5 handles the gpu stress better than XSx is would appear

It would seem. I'm guessing the slower clocks are to blame here.

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@Zero_epyon said:
@Xplode_games said:

I'm not a basketball fan but the game looks amazing. I hope they come out with a new boxing game for the X/S and PS5.

Man I would love a boxing game.

I am currently playing Fight Night Champions on BC from gamepass and it actually still looks pretty good IMHO, especially considering it's a 360 game. I can't even imagine how great a boxing game would look and play.

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#33 ellos
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Minor stuff but perhaps its time to remove the Seal that sw mods put on Ron. He will be able to explain what's going on. Ron is missed in all this next gen entertainment lol.

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#34  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@ellos said:

Minor stuff but perhaps its time to remove the Seal that sw mods put on Ron. He will be able to explain what's going on. Ron is missed in all this next gen entertainment lol.

I would hate to imagine what kind of sacrifice is required to remove that seal.

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@Chutebox: Seconded.

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#36  Edited By tormentos
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@ellos:

I wish he was here, he would be posting 3 pages long post just to damage control the xbox losing.

I remember he try to pass this gen gap as been as big as last gen one using the xbox one X vs Pro gap of 1.8TF and straight comparing it to the PS5 vs series X one.

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#37 tormentos
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@Pedro:

Are you saying the tide will turn.?😂😂😂

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#38 Pedro
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@tormentos said:

@Pedro:

Are you saying the tide will turn.?😂😂😂

Answer the question. 😎

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Aaaaand it'll still play like dogshit.

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@tormentos said:

@ellos:

I wish he was here, he would be posting 3 pages long post just to damage control the xbox losing.

I remember he try to pass this gen gap as been as big as last gen one using the xbox one X vs Pro gap of 1.8TF and straight comparing it to the PS5 vs series X one.

I'm still not unconvinced that he's secretly misterxmedia

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The only sport game I am really interested in on PS5 in year one is Fifa 21.

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#42 tormentos
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@Pedro:

Well ill answer i never stated the gap would remain so i dont know why you ask me that.

But you on the other hand.😂

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#43  Edited By deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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No way is that a proper generation leap it's still a cross gen game decent visual upgrades but it's held back. I'm still waiting to see next gen graphics on consoles it hasn't come yet probably in a few years once games are built from the ground up on these consoles and cross gen is dead.

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#44  Edited By ellos
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@Zero_epyon: I volunteer that SecretPolice dude don't tell him....

@tormentos You all know you miss those charts lol.

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#45 Pedro
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@tormentos said:

@Pedro:

Well ill answer i never stated the gap would remain so i dont know why you ask me that.

But you on the other hand.😂

Still dodging. Lets try this again. Are you saying the PS5 will perform better in multiplatform games for the rest of the generation?

Its a simple Yes or No. 😎

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@ellos said:

@Zero_epyon: I volunteer that SecretPolice dude don't tell him....

@tormentos You all know you miss those charts lol.

Nah he's actually entertaining

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#47  Edited By TorqueHappens08
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@ellos: oh my god, i miss clicking the next page and just seeing a massively long post of nothing but charts that take up half the page.

That said, it’s plainly obvious that PS5s main advantage is it’s clock speeds, it brute forces through scenarios where other games drop frames.

It will (probably) be the same for cyber punk, rendering cars,city,pedestrians,environments etc will take less of a hit on PS5 due to the clock speeds.