DF: Kingdom Hearts 3 vs Toy Story - Have real-time console graphics finally surpassed Pixar's CG classic?

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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-kingdom-hearts-3-vs-toy-story-face-off

Toy Story: the first full-length computer-generated feature, and a revolution in animated film. In 1995 it was a landmark moment for cinema, but it also caused big waves in the videogame industry. Around the time of PlayStation 2's launch in 2000, the visual quality of the original Toy Story became a kind of benchmark, a lofty goal developers strived to hit in their games, even if it quickly transpired to be a vain pursuit. Sadly, there was nowhere near the graphical horsepower in PS2 to achieve such pristine image quality in real time. But two console generations on, do we now finally have the power to match - or exceed - the visual quality of Pixar's iconic movie?

Premiering at Disney's D23 expo, a new six-minute trailer for Square-Enix's Kingdom Hearts 3 may finally provide the answer. The setup is simple enough: Sora and friends are thrown into a new Toy Story-themed level, where really, it's hard not to draw contrasts with the original film - and indeed its more visually advanced sequels. It starts with the characters: Woody is a great example, and it's clear Square-Enix has gone to great pains to mimic the textures and geometric detail of the original model. It's uncannily close.

It's fair to say Toy Story is a more viable target to hit than more modern CG films. For example, it helps massively that the focus of the movie was on toys after all, meaning a PS4 in this case mainly has to render simple, undemanding plastic materials. The colour tone is basic, and even that reflective glossy layer on Woody shows up under light. It's a simplicity that made toys a perfect subject for a full-length feature project, back when CG animation was in its infancy. By extension though, it makes it all the easier for Square Enix to replicate these models on today's hardware - but crucially, now in real time.

In fact, you can argue that texturing is improved for the game. Look at Rex in Kingdom Hearts 3, and there's extra definition to the marks across his skin than what we had in the first film; a crisper appearance. Kingdom Hearts director Tetsuya Nomura has spoken at length about how Unreal Engine 4 helps with shading here, which translates to the main cast. Sora and the gang take on a slightly different appearance in the demo, matching the CG aesthetic of the new level. For the Toy Story universe, that equates to convincing new materials for their bodies; a more plastic sheen, with a Lego-style construction. It's a brilliant touch, and helps the cast fit right into a world with cleaner, CG lighting.

But it's not as simple as meshwork, textures and shading - nailing the quality of the film's animation is also essential. The original Toy Story demanded over 720 controls for Woody alone, to control his body, eyes, face and mouth, and much more for later sequels. Really there's no shortfall in Kingdom Hearts 3's animations efforts though. The attention to facial detail especially is on par with Pixar's efforts in one key aspect, with Woody's eyes switching focus, his eyelids batting down, and even his eyebrows moving to heighten his expression. Subtle inflections in eye movement are a secret ingredient to humanising any great CG character, and Kingdom Hearts 3 doesn't waver in matching the authenticity of the source material here.

The same attention to detail goes into the environments later in the trailer: a three-way split between Andy's room, the front garden and the Space Capsule arcade. Based on the source material, the demands on texturing are basic across all three, but a lot is done to push it beyond the original film in several key areas.

Impressively, there's evidence of improved materials and extra detail dotted around the room. Modern lighting effects like bloom are added to the window, highlighting a crucial advantage modern rendering possesses: dynamic lighting, global illumination, light bounce and a range of post-process effects that create an arguably richer result.

The primitive nature of original Toy Story's lighting makes matching its settings more achievable. Light sources were placed manually in the film, and shadows too, with no specular mapping to note at all on walls. Even ambient occlusion was used sparingly across the feature, causing visible dither artifacts under Woody's hat, for example - something refined and improved for its sequels. In other words, light and shade show a limit to Pixar's rendering technology in 1995, whereas Kingdom Hearts 3's engine enjoys effects like ambient occlusion, applied consistently, and at a much higher level of quality. The only part not fully replicated in the game is the glossy, varnished sheen of the wood floor. The first Toy Story uses this to reflect the cast, but it's missing in the game.

Looking to the garden next, the lighting model in Unreal Engine 4's influence is felt heavily. Everything has a sense of depth; with grass properly shaded across the lawn. In fact, each tuft of grass moves underneath Sora's feet dynamically, a big upgrade over the static, rigid foliage geometry of the film. The only aspect here which shows the limits of rendering in real time is shadow culling. PS4 isn't able to draw everything in at once, and so it staggers the detail level depending on Sora's distance to it. It's a technique film-makers can easily brute-force past, but a commonplace drawback in complex 3D games with large areas - often to save on GPU resources. Implemented well, and you won't catch it, but the pop-in on display in trailer, again, reminds us that this is a real-time presentation with a strict per-frame rendering budget.

Kingdom Hearts 3's effects pipeline also deserves some credit here. Leaning on Unreal 4's native feature-set means Square Enix gets a host of great options out of the box, and high quality motion blur is among them. This demonstrates a big upgrade over the actual film - which used relatively few samples, with break-up and dithering on the blur trail. Fast forward to Toy Story 2 or its sequel, and it's clear that this is an area where Pixar radically improved matters, with a smoother result using more samples - more in line with Kingdom Hearts 3's presentation. It's a sign videogame post-processing has well and truly surpassed the efforts of the first Toy Story. Depth of field is another example; it works brilliantly in Kingdom Hearts for close-up shots in Andy's room, and surprisingly, used more aggressively in the game than the film.

After 22 years, the question remains: have we finally reached the point where real-time rendering on a console surpasses the quality of the original Toy Story? Kingdom Hearts 3 gives an encouraging answer, but clearly the film can't be matched in all areas. The fact is that image quality in the movie is still on another level - even though the game resolution is technically higher. Kingdom Hearts 3 renders at a native 1920x1080 based on this trailer, while Toy Story originally rendered at a lesser 1532x922 resolution back in the day (though worth stressing the film was re-rendered for its Blu-ray release at an unknown resolution).

Pixar staff have previously explained that the firm used multi-sampling anti-aliasing, with an extra pass blur filter, leaving zero jagged edges in the final rendered output. Multiple filters and blurs are applied, all of which worked well with the source material. It still looks great, but in Kingdom Hearts 3, we're looking at a native 1080p image with anti-aliasing that doesn't filter every stair-step. There are gaps in coverage and flickering points on lighter edges, all of which reminds you it's ultimately still a game.

Pixar's brute-force offline rendering approach for Toy Story made this possible, with a staggering level of compute power thrown at rendering the movie. Toy Story required 117 PC workstations to render each scene, with a single frame sometimes taking up to 30 hours to complete. That's in a feature running at 24 frames per second, to create a full 80-minute feature. The rendering time is astonishing, and it's still the case with modern CG features like Frozen. And yet, with the GPU available power on PS4, it's pushing out results like this at 30 frames per second - with a per-frame budget of just 33 milliseconds.

All this is the fruition of the move to new technology: more advanced hardware - and of course, smarter rendering software in the form of Unreal Engine 4. Even if image quality does fall short, CG-style results like this just weren't possible on earlier Kingdom Hearts titles on any previous console hardware.

The closest we got were levels based on live-action movies like Tron, or Pirates of the Caribbean in the second Kingdom Hearts - but even there, these levels use a style similar to traditionally animated features, to sidestep the need for more realistic materials. Today, we have an example of a true computer-generated feature making it into the series, and the fact is, it comes scarily close to the real thing.

This blows open the prospects for more Kingdom Hearts worlds based on CG properties. Already we're promised others, like Big Hero 6 and Tangled, but it's fitting that Toy Story is shown first, as a proof of concept. It works, and we're looking forward to seeing how other worlds hold up to the source material once the game arrives. In general, the D23 trailer gives us an answer to an age-old question: yes, we do have the hardware to hit Toy Story grade visuals - sometimes better, and at times falling short. Maybe with extra GPU resources spent on techniques like supersampling and pushed out LODs, we could get past the issues we have in image quality, and get an even closer match to the CG look. But for now, the results from the D23 trailer are already close enough - the comparison demonstrating just how far we've come. Can it match Toy Story 3 though? To put simply - no chance. But it's always good to have a further target in fidelity to aim for.

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#3  Edited By Legend002
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Lighting is still way off. We are still 10 years away minimum.

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#4  Edited By CanYouDiglt
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LMAO this game is so made for the average Sony fan.

It just proves what everyone thinks about them. The Sony fans are on the edge of their seat to play a Toy Story game with a weaboo background. Children obsessed with Japan is the average Sony fan.

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@Legend002 said:

Lighting is still way off. We are still 10 years away minimum.

Likely just a stylistic choice. They glowed a lot more in the original Toys Story. They were made of plastic though so it made sense. The newer ones look more human.

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@CanYouDiglt said:

Children obsessed with Japan is the average Sony fan.

You make it sound like a bad thing

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the materials are better as are all of the textures. the lighting tho is not at the same level or atleeast in these shots

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@Juub1990 said:
@Legend002 said:

Lighting is still way off. We are still 10 years away minimum.

Likely just a stylistic choice. They glowed a lot more in the original Toys Story. They were made of plastic though so it made sense. The newer ones look more human.

Like the video said, KH3 is an improvement over the original Toy Story in virtually every way but IQ. And that includes the lighting, which is more natural and realistic in KH3. But the issue is it ends up making the characters look more realistic, like people with human skin, rather than like shiny toys made of plastic.

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@aigis said:
@CanYouDiglt said:

Children obsessed with Japan is the average Sony fan.

You make it sound like a bad thing

Not to mention the average Sony fan is at least 30 years old.

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@Jag85: I don't need other people telling me which looks better. TS1 is way beyond KH3 in terms of visual and I prefer that look.

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This recreation of Toy Story is pretty impressive, but it's running on a regular PS4 (1.6 GHz Jaguar CPU, a 1.8 TF GPU and 8 GB GDDR5 RAM) and 4 years into its lifecycle.

Nevermind KH3 for a minute, just think about the next major version of Unreal Engine, whether its called UE5 or whatever, and console hardware that will exist in roughly 3 years. Assume PS5 has an 8-core Zen CPU at ~3 GHz, a 12 TFLOP GPU and at least 16 GB RAM. Using a future Unreal Engine, things like lighting, shadows, post processing effects and image quality in games on PS5 several years into its lifecycle will look totally incredible. I'll bet Toy Story 1 could be recreated into a full game with no obvious loss in visual quality, especially at 30fps.

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#12  Edited By Juub1990
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@Legend002 said:

@Jag85: I don't need other people telling me which looks better. TS1 is way beyond KH3 in terms of visual and I prefer that look.

You saying it's 10 years off minimum is factually false though. The lighting model used in KH3 is far more advanced than CGI from 1995. Now whether you prefer it or not is a matter of opinion but saying it's "off" and 10 years away is just not true.

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@Jag85 said:
@aigis said:
@CanYouDiglt said:

Children obsessed with Japan is the average Sony fan.

You make it sound like a bad thing

Not to mention the average Sony fan is at least 30 years old.

Your only making it worse. So going by your comment your a 30 year old adult that is pumped up to play Toy Story. If Sesame Street made a game with good graphics you would clearly be pumped also.

I am not talking about age only but mainly mentality.

Like I said it is the perfect game for Sony fans. The weaboo factor of people obsessed with japan that really have no idea of Japan other then on a childlike level and children in general that enjoy games on childlike level. Sony games are pretty easy in general.

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@CanYouDiglt said:
@Jag85 said:
@aigis said:
@CanYouDiglt said:

Children obsessed with Japan is the average Sony fan.

You make it sound like a bad thing

Not to mention the average Sony fan is at least 30 years old.

Your only making it worse. So going by your comment your a 30 year old adult that is pumped up to play Toy Story. If Sesame Street made a game with good graphics you would clearly be pumped also.

I am not talking about age only but mainly mentality.

Like I said it is the perfect game for Sony fans. The weaboo factor of people obsessed with japan that really have no idea of Japan other then on a childlike level and children in general that enjoy games on childlike level. Sony games are pretty easy in general.

KH was like 12 years ago though :p

I dunno I just heard that crash is the dark souls of platformers

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@aigis said:
@CanYouDiglt said:
@Jag85 said:
@aigis said:
@CanYouDiglt said:

Children obsessed with Japan is the average Sony fan.

You make it sound like a bad thing

Not to mention the average Sony fan is at least 30 years old.

Your only making it worse. So going by your comment your a 30 year old adult that is pumped up to play Toy Story. If Sesame Street made a game with good graphics you would clearly be pumped also.

I am not talking about age only but mainly mentality.

Like I said it is the perfect game for Sony fans. The weaboo factor of people obsessed with japan that really have no idea of Japan other then on a childlike level and children in general that enjoy games on childlike level. Sony games are pretty easy in general.

KH was like 12 years ago though :p

I dunno I just heard that crash is the dark souls of platformers

Ok cool, enjoy playing Toy Story with Goofy and Donald Duck. Like I said before it is a perfect game for Sony fans.

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@CanYouDiglt said:
@aigis said:
@CanYouDiglt said:
@Jag85 said:
@aigis said:

You make it sound like a bad thing

Not to mention the average Sony fan is at least 30 years old.

Your only making it worse. So going by your comment your a 30 year old adult that is pumped up to play Toy Story. If Sesame Street made a game with good graphics you would clearly be pumped also.

I am not talking about age only but mainly mentality.

Like I said it is the perfect game for Sony fans. The weaboo factor of people obsessed with japan that really have no idea of Japan other then on a childlike level and children in general that enjoy games on childlike level. Sony games are pretty easy in general.

KH was like 12 years ago though :p

I dunno I just heard that crash is the dark souls of platformers

Ok cool, enjoy playing Toy Story with Goofy and Donald Duck. Like I said before it is a perfect game for Sony fans.

Hey man thanks, have fun... not playing it?

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@aigis said:
@CanYouDiglt said:
@aigis said:
@CanYouDiglt said:
@Jag85 said:

Not to mention the average Sony fan is at least 30 years old.

Your only making it worse. So going by your comment your a 30 year old adult that is pumped up to play Toy Story. If Sesame Street made a game with good graphics you would clearly be pumped also.

I am not talking about age only but mainly mentality.

Like I said it is the perfect game for Sony fans. The weaboo factor of people obsessed with japan that really have no idea of Japan other then on a childlike level and children in general that enjoy games on childlike level. Sony games are pretty easy in general.

KH was like 12 years ago though :p

I dunno I just heard that crash is the dark souls of platformers

Ok cool, enjoy playing Toy Story with Goofy and Donald Duck. Like I said before it is a perfect game for Sony fans.

Hey man thanks, have fun... not playing it?

Naw I will not be playing this game. Like I said this game is made for children like Sony fans which is the target fans.

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#18  Edited By Chutebox
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The insecurity....

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#19  Edited By CanYouDiglt
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@Chutebox said:

The insecurity....

Hey no reason for you to feel insecure. You can play Toy Story and that is cool. If you enjoy Barbie or Lego then play it also. As you have shown you are the TYPICAL Sony fan so it is not shocking you like these games.

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@CanYouDiglt: Ya, you got me

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@CanYouDiglt: Ya, you got me

Seriously what was the purpose of the first or second response? While I disagree with some of the Sony fans they will state their case. This is a habit for you to say nothing. You often try to get a dig without trying to get dirty.

Honestly I know the dig you wanted but your response just proves you are tailor made for this game. childish. If you want to get a dig then at least have some point. Are you tailor made to play Toy Story or not?

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@CanYouDiglt said:
@Chutebox said:

@CanYouDiglt: Ya, you got me

Seriously what was the purpose of the first or second response? While I disagree with some of the Sony fans they will state their case. This is a habit for you to say nothing. You often try to get a dig without trying to get dirty.

Honestly I know the dig you wanted but your response just proves you are tailor made for this game. childish. If you want to get a dig then at least have some point. Are you tailor made to play Toy Story or not?

so much digging

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@CanYouDiglt said:
@Chutebox said:

@CanYouDiglt: Ya, you got me

Seriously what was the purpose of the first or second response? While I disagree with some of the Sony fans they will state their case. This is a habit for you to say nothing. You often try to get a dig without trying to get dirty.

Honestly I know the dig you wanted but your response just proves you are tailor made for this game. childish. If you want to get a dig then at least have some point. Are you tailor made to play Toy Story or not?

It's funny you don't realize how stupid you come across as.

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Really though, this thread isn't about Kingdom Hearts or Toy Story, or what audience buys these games or watches those films, it's about graphics advancement and this is quite a milestone in real-time rendering.

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@aigis said:
@CanYouDiglt said:
@Chutebox said:

@CanYouDiglt: Ya, you got me

Seriously what was the purpose of the first or second response? While I disagree with some of the Sony fans they will state their case. This is a habit for you to say nothing. You often try to get a dig without trying to get dirty.

Honestly I know the dig you wanted but your response just proves you are tailor made for this game. childish. If you want to get a dig then at least have some point. Are you tailor made to play Toy Story or not?

so much digging

Hey I respect your answer. You may think I am full of shit about the game and vice versa but at least you said something. It is System Wars. We may disagree but we at least are not worried to say how we feel.

Chutbox on the other hand.

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@Chutebox said:
@CanYouDiglt said:
@Chutebox said:

@CanYouDiglt: Ya, you got me

Seriously what was the purpose of the first or second response? While I disagree with some of the Sony fans they will state their case. This is a habit for you to say nothing. You often try to get a dig without trying to get dirty.

Honestly I know the dig you wanted but your response just proves you are tailor made for this game. childish. If you want to get a dig then at least have some point. Are you tailor made to play Toy Story or not?

It's funny you don't realize how stupid you come across as.

Every post of yours all I see is "The insecurity...."

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@CanYouDiglt said:
@Chutebox said:
@CanYouDiglt said:
@Chutebox said:

@CanYouDiglt: Ya, you got me

Seriously what was the purpose of the first or second response? While I disagree with some of the Sony fans they will state their case. This is a habit for you to say nothing. You often try to get a dig without trying to get dirty.

Honestly I know the dig you wanted but your response just proves you are tailor made for this game. childish. If you want to get a dig then at least have some point. Are you tailor made to play Toy Story or not?

It's funny you don't realize how stupid you come across as.

Every post of yours all I see is "The insecurity...."

Ok buddy haha. Let me know when you feel better about yourself.

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@airraidjet said:

Really though, this thread isn't about Kingdom Hearts or Toy Story, or what audience buys these games or watches those films, it's about graphics advancement and this is quite a milestone in real-time rendering.

Yup. This is why I entered this thread only to see some guy and his insecurity.

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@Chutebox:

You were tailor made to enter this thread and I can dig that.

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@ConanTheStoner: oh, you can dig it? I dig it

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Bitch please, how you gonna dig without gettin dirty?

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I absolutely loathe Kingdom Hearts, but I hope every second thread on SW is now a Kingdom Hearts thread, since it seems to trigger CanYouDigIt so much.

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@charizard1605 said:

I absolutely loathe Kingdom Hearts, but I hope every second thread on SW is now a Kingdom Hearts thread, since it seems to trigger CanYouDigIt so much.

Finally my alt is here!

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@ConanTheStoner said:
@charizard1605 said:

I absolutely loathe Kingdom Hearts, but I hope every second thread on SW is now a Kingdom Hearts thread, since it seems to trigger CanYouDigIt so much.

Finally my alt is here!

I'm not Wasdie tho

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#38  Edited By LegatoSkyheart
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All that this shows me is that Toy Story (1995) is showing it's age.

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#39 samfisher56
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is toy story good ive never watched it

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#40 Netret0120
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@samfisher56 said:

is toy story good ive never watched it

Do yourself a favor and watch the trilogy. You won't regret it.

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#41  Edited By lhughey
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480p still wins

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#42 Commiesdie
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@aigis: it is a bad thing

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#43  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@Chutebox said:
@airraidjet said:

Really though, this thread isn't about Kingdom Hearts or Toy Story, or what audience buys these games or watches those films, it's about graphics advancement and this is quite a milestone in real-time rendering.

Yup. This is why I entered this thread only to see some guy and his insecurity.

You didn't even mention him by name and he still jumped on you. If that's not insecurity I don't know what is.

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#44 aigis
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@Commiesdie: digging?

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#45 Celsius765
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@CanYouDiglt: what I take from it is you haven't matured to the point where you can look past what's on the surface level of a game. Correct me if I'm wrong but you seem the type to see a y thing brightly colored and lacking sex, blood, and violence as childish. You also give off the vibe that you still care about how people perceive you so you'd feel embarrassed to be seen playing anything without adult themes when really you can play what you want and not give a damn what others think. Also Japan is creepy in some aspects so it's not really about the anime aspect. It's about the gameplay, and the story...even though I dunno where it's headed (I feel like we're still in the prologue lol)

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#46  Edited By QuadKnight
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@CanYouDiglt said:

LMAO this game is so made for the average Sony fan.

It just proves what everyone thinks about them. The Sony fans are on the edge of their seat to play a Toy Story game with a weaboo background. Children obsessed with Japan is the average Sony fan.

I don't even like Kingdom Hearts series or Toy Story but I just came in this thread to watch you have a meltdown lol. :D Thanks for delivering.

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#47 Legend002
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@Juub1990 said:
@Legend002 said:

@Jag85: I don't need other people telling me which looks better. TS1 is way beyond KH3 in terms of visual and I prefer that look.

You saying it's 10 years off minimum is factually false though. The lighting model used in KH3 is far more advanced than CGI from 1995. Now whether you prefer it or not is a matter of opinion but saying it's "off" and 10 years away is just not true.

And the OG movie still looks better.

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#48 Jag85
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@Legend002 said:

@Jag85: I don't need other people telling me which looks better. TS1 is way beyond KH3 in terms of visual and I prefer that look.

In terms of technical graphics:

KH3 > TS1

In terms of art direction:

TS1 > KH3

What makes TS1 look more visually appealing is the art direction. In TS1, the toys actually look like toys. In KH3, the toys look almost like humans.

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#49 Jag85
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@CanYouDiglt said:
@Jag85 said:
@aigis said:
@CanYouDiglt said:

Children obsessed with Japan is the average Sony fan.

You make it sound like a bad thing

Not to mention the average Sony fan is at least 30 years old.

Your only making it worse. So going by your comment your a 30 year old adult that is pumped up to play Toy Story. If Sesame Street made a game with good graphics you would clearly be pumped also.

I am not talking about age only but mainly mentality.

Like I said it is the perfect game for Sony fans. The weaboo factor of people obsessed with japan that really have no idea of Japan other then on a childlike level and children in general that enjoy games on childlike level. Sony games are pretty easy in general.

Tell that to the hundreds of millions of adults playing Pokemon. Or the hundreds of millions of adults watching Disney movies.

Your idea of "adulthood" and "maturity" is very bizarre and downright irrational.

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#50 Legend002
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@Jag85: KH3 looks like human? lol More like a failed attempt to replicate the movie.