Demon's Souls: Why The Time Is Right For A PS4 Remake [Digital Foundry]

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#1 airraidjet
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I fully expect a Demon's Souls remake or remaster on PS4 to be announced sometime this year, and released between March and May 2019.

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#2 robert_sparkes
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Surprised it's not been announced seems a no brainer after the success of the souls games.

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#3 Phreek300
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For god sakes PLEASE!!! This game deserves a full overhaul. Get to it Sony!!!

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#4 Chutebox
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Rather have a new souls game

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#6  Edited By PC_Rocks
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LOL no, let alone a remake I don't even need a new souls game. FROM software have done them to death. It almost seems like a one trick pony.

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#7  Edited By IvanGrozny
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Won't happen. PS3's CELL architecture is too different compared to PS4 X86 archtecture. The migration process would be too costly, and would basically require a new development from scratch, which will take years. If they didn't announce it yet, we won't see any time soon. Because to the announcement date you will have to add 2 years of development.

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#8  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@ivangrozny said:

Won't happen. PS3's CELL architecture is too different compared to PS4 X86 archtecture. The migration process would be too costly, and would basically require a new development from scratch, which will take years. If they didn't announce it yet, we won't see any time soon. Because to the announcement date you will have to add 2 years of development.

Can't be that bad. They remade all three uncharted games from the PS3 for the PS4.

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#9 Epak_
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@Zero_epyon said:
@ivangrozny said:

Won't happen. PS3's CELL architecture is too different compared to PS4 X86 archtecture. The migration process would be too costly, and would basically require a new development from scratch, which will take years. If they didn't announce it yet, we won't see any time soon. Because to the announcement date you will have to add 2 years of development.

Can't be that bad. They remade all three uncharted games from the PS3 for the PS4.

Yup, certainly can be done. They can emulate the game on PC already.

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#10 Ten_Pints
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If they do do it they need to complete the unfinished content of the last archstone.

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#11 magmadragoonx4
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Yes I like the idea of digital foundry that it would be an increase similar to shadow of the colossus.

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#13 HoolaHoopMan
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Give me a new IP or Bloodborne 2. Demon's Souls already had a sequel/remaster in Dark souls as it was the spiritual successor.

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#14 Ant_17
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Nah, make a Primal remake like SOTC.

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#15 henrythefifth
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Demon's Souls is prolly the highest quality of the last gen souls games, so it would be great to have it as a PS4 exclusive.

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#16 themajormayor
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Would be good considering it is the GOAT.

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#17 iambatman7986
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Demons Souls is still my favorite souls game and my favorite game of last gen. It would be day one for me.

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@Chutebox said:

Rather have a new souls game

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#19 pyro1245
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The time has been right since 2013. This will sell a bunch to fans who have played it and to Souls fans who have yet to try it.

What a great game.

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#20 pyro1245
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@henrythefifth said:

Demon's Souls is prolly the highest quality of the last gen souls games, so it would be great to have it as a PS4 exclusive.

Ugh... I really hope it's not an exclusive....

A) More people need to play it

B) I need to play it on my PC so I don't have to use my PS4

C) exclusives suck since there is less reason to program it well - all you have to do is make it work on one platform

D) There's just no reason for it to be exclusive.

E) Future-proof

F) Please no.

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#21  Edited By X_CAPCOM_X
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I really want to see this done. This game was incomplete when it released on PS3, and even though it was incomplete, it sent a shockwave across the industry that we are still feeling today. It deserves the most respect, and one way to do this would be to remake it ground up with the original vision still firmly as the foundation. Give us that extra archstone if you guys do it! Possibly some extra content on top of this!

Also, it would most likely be a PS4 exclusive, which isn't a problem for me. I got a PS4 because I knew things like this would release on it.

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#22 j2zon2591
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Demon Souls 2?

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#23  Edited By ronvalencia
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@ivangrozny said:

Won't happen. PS3's CELL architecture is too different compared to PS4 X86 archtecture. The migration process would be too costly, and would basically require a new development from scratch, which will take years. If they didn't announce it yet, we won't see any time soon. Because to the announcement date you will have to add 2 years of development.

PS3CELL's main problem is difference in magnitude e.g. if PS3 only has 1 PPC and 2 SPE setup, then it's software BC is possible on PS4.

Both Jaguar's L2 cache and SPE's local memory programming boundary optimizations are similar. The main difference between Jaguar vs SPE is Jaguar can forgive the programmer when they exceed L2 cache boundary instead of hitting the brick wall.

On peek software optimizations, CELL's SPEs are similar to X86's vector programming.

CELL's 7 SPE = think of 7 PowerPC Altivec co-processors like behavior that are not compatible with PowerPC Altivec

CELL's 7 SPEs has 7 128bit SIMD FMA hardware + 1 PPC Altivec 128bit FMA hardware

AMD 's Ryzen 3 quad core has 8 128bit SIMD FMA + 8 FADD 128bit SIMD hardware i.e. more than matching against CELL on pure paper spec.

FMA = math unit that can handle both MUL and ADD functions.

PS5 is rumored to have Ryzen 8 CPU cores, hence at least 16 128bit SIMD FMA + 16 FADD 128bit SIMD hardware with Ryzen v1/v2 designs.

Ryzen v3 is rumored to have four 128bit SIMD FMA per CPU core, hence 8 CPU setup yields 32 128bit SIMD FMA units.

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#24  Edited By ronvalencia
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@Epak_ said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@ivangrozny said:

Won't happen. PS3's CELL architecture is too different compared to PS4 X86 archtecture. The migration process would be too costly, and would basically require a new development from scratch, which will take years. If they didn't announce it yet, we won't see any time soon. Because to the announcement date you will have to add 2 years of development.

Can't be that bad. They remade all three uncharted games from the PS3 for the PS4.

Yup, certainly can be done. They can emulate the game on PC already.

Without BC emulation overheads, Sony needs to port AI/logic code to X86 CPU while SPE's shader mini-programs needs to be ported to GpGPU.

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#25  Edited By deactivated-60bf765068a74
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ps4 is a god damn beast games should just go exclusive to it period

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#26 MonsieurX
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@ProtossRushX said:

ps4 is a god damn beast games should just go exclusive to it period

No it shouldn't

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#27 SecretPolice
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Why can't Phony just make the original DS that gamers already own PS Bore Poo BC 4K Enhanced like MS does with it's games? Ohhh, right, no money to be made in that endeavor.

Oh well, not everyone can be like, MS/Xbox, for the gamers by the gamerzzz.... Jazzz. lol :P

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@Chutebox said:

Rather have a new souls game

^ Bloodborne 2 please. Or w/e that potentially asian game is.

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#29 Archangel3371
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I really enjoyed the game myself and certainly wouldn’t mind seeing it remastered.

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#30 Zensword
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I missed it when it came out on PS3, so I'd love to see a remster version for PS4.

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#31  Edited By pouriarjj
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@airraidjet said:
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I fully expect a Demon's Souls remake or remaster on PS4 to be announced sometime this year, and released between March and May 2019.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5eF3kw9ca0

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