Crytek CEO: Team Fortress 2 is not a real free to play game, in a sense

campzor · 2013-03-06 09:34:54

sourceGafCopy pasting whole gaf post Cryteks CEO Cervat Yerlis been swung by free-to-play gaming, hes pushing to have every future Crytek title run on the model - the first of which will be Warface, which Jeremy was very taken with last week. Though, Yerlis not so keen on how Valve turned Team Fortress 2 into a free-to-play game: Team Fortress 2 is not a real free to play game, in a sense.I kind of think it's a 70% free to play title. It's on the way to be there, it's a good model and it works for them, but there is still pay to win there and I don't like that. Valves version of free-to-play sees the base game being entirely free but a charge being placed on custom content. Largely this is purely cosmetic gear; the infamous hats. However, not all of it is cosmetic. There are also whole new item sets such as new weapons and apparel that apply bonuses to qualities like damage and hit points. This is what Yerli objects to There's some great experiment there, with user-generated content, but you buy items. You have to buy items.In his view, a free to play game doesn't allow you to sell items. This is the issue I have with that. We would allow communities to create items for virtual currency, but you can't really go with commercial items because that's pay to win. So that's why I'm saying I'm disapproving of the concept of Team Fortress 2, because that is effectively not quite free to play. The only thing that's free-to-play there is they I can just go into the game and play it. But there's a piece of game I can't access without spending money. With free-to-play being bandied about as term so much now its easy to forget that its not one single homogenous business model and that, in fact, there are very different ways of implementing it. Valve have always suggested that theyre experimenting with how to create a working model of the system so it will be interesting to see how their future games change up the system. At least Warface is a true free to play g...Which brings me to whats likely to be Warfaces most divisive feature - resurrection coins. Acquirable only in bulk via the in-game store, coins allow players instant revival in co-op. In practice, I found that they could be used strategically, to jump back into existence at an opportune moment - for instance, as soon as my killers back was turned. Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli described a situation in which his group failed to reach a checkpoint by such a thin margin that he wished hed cashed in a coin to save them. It is something for convenience, he said. Normally a game design like that, I've seen it in other games when you just [have to] wait til they get to the next checkpoint - they don't have the mechanic to respawn at all. Its [virtual] money for the greater good of the group. Not sure if 2nd bit is true..but just in case.

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#51 UnrealLegend

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He's flat out wrong.

All the weapons offering different playstyles are available in random drops and achievements, and they're almost never a straight upgrade. If anything, TF2 is the opposite of Pay-to-win. There's very few of those hat bonus things he speaks of, and none of them give much of an advantage anyway.

Dude is talking out of his crack, as usual.

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#52 speedfreak48t5p

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Who keeps giving Crytek all these interviews? These guys never seem to shut the f*ck up.
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#53 LustForSoul

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I Don't like TF2. Don't like any F2P with cash shops. Rather pay once and actually progress in the game myself.

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#54 lostrib

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I Don't like TF2. Don't like any F2P with cash shops. Rather pay once and actually progress in the game myself. LustForSoul

TF2 items you can buy are mostly cosmetic

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#55 Masculus

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I'd agree with him since there is that crappy Mann vs Machine mode where you have to pay for ranked matches.

Otherwise the only flaw I see in TF2 is the noob-only items and some recent lack of balance in the game.

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#56 deactivated-59b71619573a1

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Oh FFS Crytek just shut the fvck up already and stop trying to remain relevant

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#57 EPaul

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I think whenever it's a slow news day some gaming website ask Crytek for an interview just to get the ceo to say something asinine

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#58 Gifye

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He's right, TF2 isn't free to play. [spoiler] Because I payed for it [/spoiler]

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#59 jg4xchamp

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Well he's not wrong, the f*cking game wasn't F2P for like what a good 2-3 years. Only recently has the model changed up to get money out of the userbase on hats. As for the notion that buying unlocks is "pay 2 win" I have a huge disagreement with that mindset, because most modern games that involve perks and unlocks essentially have you at a disadvantage from the get go. As the game has become more about how much time you put in and less about how good you are on even terms. As far as I'm concerned if a price model cuts down wasting my time(because that's what the 60 dollar FPS games waste) I'm all for it. I'd much rather play a Tribes Ascend than a Battlefield 3 or a Call of Duty on that premise alone.

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