Crytek CEO: Ryse wouldn't have run at 1080p on PS4

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#1 Gue1
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According to him, things would have been no different, had the game been in development for the PS4. The decision to go with a native resolution of 900p was purely by choice, and not the result of a technical hurdle. He goes on to imply that there is no meaningful loss in image quality due to it not being rendered at native 1080p. Compromising image quality in favor of visual fidelity via enhanced shaders is, in his view, a more efficient solution.

Gearnuke

http://gearnuke.com/crytek-ceo-ryse-wouldnt-have-run-at-1080p-on-ps4-decision-was-choice-not-hurdle/

 

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BTW, I don't know how to post Twitter comments on the forum but you can read them in the link above.

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:lol:

This guy can keep crying all he wants. The Xbone is so weak that it's even weaker than the 360.

http://i3.minus.com/irz5XL8gj7UVv.png

Take a look at that. Forza 4 looks better than Forza 5. :lol:

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What a load of crap. Cervat Yerli is one the most idiotic developers to ever speak out. hes so inconsistent and full of crap. If you have to turn it down to 900p to make shaders better YOU ARE COMPRIMISING, IT WASNT A CHOICE. dull dull PR, the man maybe good at leading or developement but he sure is sh*t at convincing people of his lies,
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LOL, but but the PS4 is better it must run at 1080p Kindly sit down Sony fans.
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#5 XboxFails
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LOL, but but the PS4 is better it must run at 1080p Kindly sit down Sony fans.tdkmillsy

Forza 4 vs. Forza 5:

http://i3.minus.com/irz5XL8gj7UVv.png

Xbone is so weak it can't keep up with last-gen hardware. :lol:

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:lol:

This guy can keep crying all he wants. The Xbone is so weak that it's even weaker than the 360.

http://i3.minus.com/irz5XL8gj7UVv.png

Take a look at that. Forza 4 looks better than Forza 5. :lol:

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Good afternoon. 

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#7 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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It's PR talk, but he's right in that the difference in the bigger context is tiny. I would choose better performance at 900p every time over 1080p. This isn't the sub-HD days of last generation where things are a blurry mess. I'll stand by Digital Foundry on this.
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He actually never says it wouldn't have run at native 1080p on the PS4. He simply says it wouldn't run at native 1080p on PS4, like the Xbox One, because its a design choice.

Q: Native res > upscaled. Hypothetically, if the title was to be developed for PS4, would hit the same hurdle?

A: Yes as choice wasnt based on a hurdle. Its for efficiency as no perceived visual difference, as final output is 1080p.

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 The Xbone is so weak that it's even weaker than the 360.

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What a load of crap. Cervat Yerli is one the most idiotic developers to ever speak out. hes so inconsistent and full of crap. If you have to turn it down to 900p to make shaders better YOU ARE COMPRIMISING, IT WASNT A CHOICE. dull dull PR, the man maybe good at leading or developement but he sure is sh*t at convincing people of his lies,MBirdy88
how so is he   stupid?  you can choose program better shaders or not . it's a choice not compromising.

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dat damage control. IDk wat the big deal is with people in SW, 900p is fine. I dont give a shit if a game is 720p, as long as its 60fps.
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It's PR talk, but he's right in that the difference in the bigger context is tiny. I would choose better performance at 900p every time over 1080p. This isn't the sub-HD days of last generation where things are a blurry mess. I'll stand by Digital Foundry on this.Stevo_the_gamer
:lol: having to chose.
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[QUOTE="XboxFails"]

 The Xbone is so weak that it's even weaker than the 360.

R3FURBISHED

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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]What a load of crap. Cervat Yerli is one the most idiotic developers to ever speak out. hes so inconsistent and full of crap. If you have to turn it down to 900p to make shaders better YOU ARE COMPRIMISING, IT WASNT A CHOICE. dull dull PR, the man maybe good at leading or developement but he sure is sh*t at convincing people of his lies,wiiutroll

how so is he   stupid?  you can choose program better shaders or not . it's a choice not compromising.

Because. its simple. the console failed to do both, therefore it was not a choice, the community WANTS standard 1080p there IS a difference, its all PR fluff.
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He actually never says it wouldn't have run at native 1080p on the PS4. He simply says it wouldn't run at native 1080p on PS4, like the Xbox One, because its a design choice.

Q: Native res > upscaled. Hypothetically, if the title was to be developed for PS4, would hit the same hurdle?

A: Yes as choice wasnt based on a hurdle. Its for efficiency as no perceived visual difference, as final output is 1080p.

Nonstop-Madness

But the PS4 can run RYSE at 1080p native while looking significantly better than the current RYSE build.

http://i3.minus.com/irz5XL8gj7UVv.png

Look. Xbox ONE is weaker than the 360.

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TCHBO :cool:
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]It's PR talk, but he's right in that the difference in the bigger context is tiny. I would choose better performance at 900p every time over 1080p. This isn't the sub-HD days of last generation where things are a blurry mess. I'll stand by Digital Foundry on this.clyde46
:lol: having to chose.

You know what I mean, I would prefer developers to go down that route so we don't have to worry about sub-30fps. :P
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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]

He actually never says it wouldn't have run at native 1080p on the PS4. He simply says it wouldn't run at native 1080p on PS4, like the Xbox One, because its a design choice.

Q: Native res > upscaled. Hypothetically, if the title was to be developed for PS4, would hit the same hurdle?

A: Yes as choice wasnt based on a hurdle. Its for efficiency as no perceived visual difference, as final output is 1080p.

XboxFails

But the PS4 can run RYSE at 1080p native while looking significantly better than the current RYSE build.

http://i3.minus.com/irz5XL8gj7UVv.png

Look. Xbox ONE is weaker than the 360.

You don't understand programming do you...
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]What a load of crap. Cervat Yerli is one the most idiotic developers to ever speak out. hes so inconsistent and full of crap. If you have to turn it down to 900p to make shaders better YOU ARE COMPRIMISING, IT WASNT A CHOICE. dull dull PR, the man maybe good at leading or developement but he sure is sh*t at convincing people of his lies,MBirdy88

how so is he   stupid?  you can choose program better shaders or not . it's a choice not compromising.

Because. its simple. the console failed to do both, therefore it was not a choice, the community WANTS standard 1080p there IS a difference, its all PR fluff.

no outside of the internet that isn't techsavy   which is majority of people cares about it being 1080p.

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strange so 900p was a design choice? just like the order 1886 that has a design choice of 800p ;)
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But the PS4 can run RYSE at 1080p native while looking significantly better than the current RYSE build.

http://i3.minus.com/irz5XL8gj7UVv.png

Look. Xbox ONE is weaker than the 360.

XboxFails

Can't learn that much from a static image man. Yesterday I was at an expo where I got to see Forza 5 running, also DriveClub - I learned a lot. A lot more than any YouTube video could teach me. 

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The PS4 could run the game at 1080p and look better than 900p on the X1
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="wiiutroll"]how so is he   stupid?  you can choose program better shaders or not . it's a choice not compromising.

wiiutroll

Because. its simple. the console failed to do both, therefore it was not a choice, the community WANTS standard 1080p there IS a difference, its all PR fluff.

no outside of the internet that isn't techsavy   which is majority of people cares about it being 1080p.

Whatever dude pretend people are that stupid. or accept that anything visually displayed on a 1080p tv should be 1080p and that is the running commercial standard for HD.
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[QUOTE="XboxFails"]

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]

He actually never says it wouldn't have run at native 1080p on the PS4. He simply says it wouldn't run at native 1080p on PS4, like the Xbox One, because its a design choice.

Q: Native res > upscaled. Hypothetically, if the title was to be developed for PS4, would hit the same hurdle?

A: Yes as choice wasnt based on a hurdle. Its for efficiency as no perceived visual difference, as final output is 1080p.

clyde46

But the PS4 can run RYSE at 1080p native while looking significantly better than the current RYSE build.

http://i3.minus.com/irz5XL8gj7UVv.png

Look. Xbox ONE is weaker than the 360.

You don't understand programming do you...

Again, I implore you to look at this:

http://i3.minus.com/irz5XL8gj7UVv.png

The Xbox 360 should be able to run RYSE at 1080p in its current state.

The PS4 can run it at 1080p while having better graphics.

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Look. Xbox ONE is weaker than the 360.

XboxFails

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[QUOTE="XboxFails"]

Look. Xbox ONE is weaker than the 360.

R3FURBISHED

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[QUOTE="wiiutroll"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Because. its simple. the console failed to do both, therefore it was not a choice, the community WANTS standard 1080p there IS a difference, its all PR fluff.MBirdy88

no outside of the internet that isn't techsavy   which is majority of people cares about it being 1080p.

Whatever dude pretend people are that stupid. or accept that anything visually displayed on a 1080p tv should be 1080p and that is the running commercial standard for HD.

so  my 4k tv should be displaying my ps3 games  in 4k.

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[QUOTE="XboxFails"]But the PS4 can run RYSE at 1080p native while looking significantly better than the current RYSE build.

http://i3.minus.com/irz5XL8gj7UVv.png

Look. Xbox ONE is weaker than the 360.

psymon100

Can't learn that much from a static image man. Yesterday I was at an expo where I got to see Forza 5 running, also DriveClub - I learned a lot. A lot more than any YouTube video could teach me. 

Many people are saying that Forza looks like a blurry mess. IQ significantly downgraded from E3 build.

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Many people are saying that Forza looks like a blurry mess.

XboxFails

Such as...?

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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="wiiutroll"]no outside of the internet that isn't techsavy   which is majority of people cares about it being 1080p.

wiiutroll

Whatever dude pretend people are that stupid. or accept that anything visually displayed on a 1080p tv should be 1080p and that is the running commercial standard for HD.

so  my 4k tv should be display my ps3 games  in 4k.

No, the content needs to be in 4K.
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he wants you too look at screen-grab taken from a 30fps video that was transcode to 60fps by some guy at beyond 3d,plus you can see the interlacing artifacts :lol:
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[QUOTE="tdkmillsy"]LOL, but but the PS4 is better it must run at 1080p Kindly sit down Sony fans.XboxFails

Forza 4 vs. Forza 5:

http://i3.minus.com/irz5XL8gj7UVv.png

Xbone is so weak it can't keep up with last-gen hardware. :lol:

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Many people are saying that Forza looks like a blurry mess. IQ significantly downgraded from E3 build.

XboxFails

Uh-huh, uh-huh. And, what do these many people say about DriveClub if that's what they're saying about Forza. 

Yesterday, I saw both. 

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[QUOTE="XboxFails"]

Many people are saying that Forza looks like a blurry mess.

R3FURBISHED

Such as...?

people with farsightedness?

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he wants you too look at screen-grab taken from a 30fps video that was transcode to 60fps by some guy at beyond 3d,plus you can see the interlacing artifacts :lol:Tessellation
You can't take a 30FPS video clip and encode it at 60FPS. There isn't enough frames.
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[QUOTE="XboxFails"]Many people are saying that Forza looks like a blurry mess. IQ significantly downgraded from E3 build.

psymon100

Uh-huh, uh-huh. And, what do these many people say about DriveClub if that's what they're saying about Forza. 

Yesterday, I saw both. 

bu bu bu your eyes are lying :lol:
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[QUOTE="wiiutroll"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Whatever dude pretend people are that stupid. or accept that anything visually displayed on a 1080p tv should be 1080p and that is the running commercial standard for HD.clyde46

so  my 4k tv should be display my ps3 games  in 4k.

No, the content needs to be in 4K.

i know. lol  he  said  if  you   something with 1080p  should always be 1080p.

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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="wiiutroll"]no outside of the internet that isn't techsavy   which is majority of people cares about it being 1080p.

wiiutroll

Whatever dude pretend people are that stupid. or accept that anything visually displayed on a 1080p tv should be 1080p and that is the running commercial standard for HD.

so  my 4k tv should be displaying my ps3 games  in 4k.

4k is not the standard atm, I would expect a device IN TEN YEARS TIME to do 4k yes. just like 1080p has been around for that ammount of time nearly. don't try to be clever, your failing at it.
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"]he wants you too look at screen-grab taken from a 30fps video that was transcode to 60fps by some guy at beyond 3d,plus you can see the interlacing artifacts :lol:clyde46
You can't take a 30FPS video clip and encode it at 60FPS. There isn't enough frames.

well he just did and you can do it,but it destroys your video quality.
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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]

He actually never says it wouldn't have run at native 1080p on the PS4. He simply says it wouldn't run at native 1080p on PS4, like the Xbox One, because its a design choice.

Q: Native res > upscaled. Hypothetically, if the title was to be developed for PS4, would hit the same hurdle?

A: Yes as choice wasnt based on a hurdle. Its for efficiency as no perceived visual difference, as final output is 1080p.

XboxFails

But the PS4 can run RYSE at 1080p native while looking significantly better than the current RYSE build.

irz5XL8gj7UVv.png

Look. Xbox ONE is weaker than the 360.

They downgraded the enviorment from forza 4 ..xboned :lol:

 

Crytek sucks at consoles,confirmed.

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[QUOTE="wiiutroll"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Whatever dude pretend people are that stupid. or accept that anything visually displayed on a 1080p tv should be 1080p and that is the running commercial standard for HD.MBirdy88

so  my 4k tv should be displaying my ps3 games  in 4k.

4k is not the standard atm, I would expect a device IN TEN YEARS TIME to do 4k yes. just like 1080p has been around for that ammount of time nearly. don't try to be clever, your failing at it.

it's not standard at the  old folks 'home near me  and  area  around have 720p  tvs. 1080p hasn't exist for 10 years :L. Are you from the future?

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TCHBO again. bu bu hes lying. Meanwhile Sony devs are the most trustworthy bunch in the biz. lol
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Tessellation"]he wants you too look at screen-grab taken from a 30fps video that was transcode to 60fps by some guy at beyond 3d,plus you can see the interlacing artifacts :lol:Tessellation
You can't take a 30FPS video clip and encode it at 60FPS. There isn't enough frames.

well he just did and you can do it,but it destroys your video quality.

Motion interpolation. 

 

And thank you Tessellation for dat lol. 

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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Tessellation"]he wants you too look at screen-grab taken from a 30fps video that was transcode to 60fps by some guy at beyond 3d,plus you can see the interlacing artifacts :lol:Tessellation
You can't take a 30FPS video clip and encode it at 60FPS. There isn't enough frames.

well he just did and you can do it,but it destroys your video quality.

The only way I can see you doing it is by copying and inserting an addtional frame. Like copying every I-frame.
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="clyde46"] You can't take a 30FPS video clip and encode it at 60FPS. There isn't enough frames. psymon100

well he just did and you can do it,but it destroys your video quality.

Motion interpolation. 

 

And thank you Tessellation for dat lol. 

just incase people wants proof http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1789608&postcount=380 ''Hey guys, the vid is from me. Just wanted to make a 60fPS version of the video until Gamersyde releases a proper one. Forza (mainline) just looks weird in 30fps. Also youtube was the source I used :P''
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#48 psymon100
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The only way I can see you doing it is by copying and inserting an addtional frame. Like copying every I-frame. clyde46

Ask the computer the mathematically produce an inbetween frame. 

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#49 Jakandsigz
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Lol Xbox Fails. You think Forza 4 on the 360 can make trees look THAT good?
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#50 killzowned24
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TCHBO again. bu bu hes lying. Meanwhile Sony devs are the most trustworthy bunch in the biz. lolLA-Nighthawk
The same guy just lied yesterday lol and only caved in because will be proven wrong :lol: