Console + HDTV = PC in terms of price

I've heard this argued about many times.

To enjoy HD gaming on your next-gen console you do not need an HDTV, in fact if you are reading this post right now you have one of the two items needed.

Firstly you need a monitor, LCD or CRT works fine. Secondly you need the $40 VGA cable.

I tried this on my LCD 19" BenQ monitor last night and it was stunning. (my monitor was only $180 a year ago in case you are wondering)

I know alot of you knew about this already, but if you were curious as to if it looks good or not, YES it looks amazing.

If you have an Xbox 360 and a PC monitor without an HDTV GET THIS NOW, it makes a HUGE difference.

How about I have an XBOX 360 + SDTV? It saves tons of money. The graphics are still as amazing as if I was playing on my 17" monitor (at 1280x1024), and still, I get to play my games on my 23". Which is bigger 23" or 17"? I wonder .... gnutuxgnutux

Sadly the PC doesn't get the games that interest most console players so...what gives ?el_rika

[QUOTE="el_rika"]Sadly the PC doesn't get the games that interest most console players so...what gives ?Vandalvideo

What every single genre are you babling about ? :? When PC will get games like Tekken6, VF5, MGS4, DOA4, Heavenly Sword, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, GOW3, Lair, FFXIII, Halo 3, GT5 and countless others, then we'll talk about how the PC gets the games that interest console players.:roll:

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="el_rika"]Sadly the PC doesn't get the games that interest most console players so...what gives ?el_rika

What every single genre are you babling about ? :? When PC will get games like Tekken6, VF5, MGS4, DOA4, Heavenly Sword, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, GOW3, Lair, FFXIII, Halo 3, GT5 and countless others, then we'll talk about how the PC gets the games that interest console players.:roll:

How about I have an XBOX 360 + SDTV? It saves tons of money. The graphics are still as amazing as if I was playing on my 17" monitor (at 1280x1024), and still, I get to play my games on my 23". Which is bigger 23" or 17"? I wonder .... gnutuxgnutux

I rather play on the 17" Screen then have the Graphics look Monkey Turd SD.  

I've heard this argued about many times.

To enjoy HD gaming on your next-gen console you do not need an HDTV, in fact if you are reading this post right now you have one of the two items needed.

Firstly you need a monitor, LCD or CRT works fine. Secondly you need the $40 VGA cable.

I tried this on my LCD 19" BenQ monitor last night and it was stunning. (my monitor was only $180 a year ago in case you are wondering)

I know alot of you knew about this already, but if you were curious as to if it looks good or not, YES it looks amazing.

If you have an Xbox 360 and a PC monitor without an HDTV GET THIS NOW, it makes a HUGE difference.

 

 

honestAB3

WHat about this?

http://www.play.com/Search.aspx?searchtype=gameall&searchstring=tiberium&page=search&pa=search&go.x=0&go.y=0 

I've built and linked a PC with the equivalent power of a 360 for 520 bucks. I don't think you can find an HDTV for 120 bucks.Vandalvideo

I'd like to see this link. Include everything too, sick of people listing a mobo/GPU/CPU and RAM like thats all you need to run a computer.  

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I've built and linked a PC with the equivalent power of a 360 for 520 bucks. I don't think you can find an HDTV for 120 bucks.D_Znuhtz

I'd like to see this link. Include everything too, sick of people listing a mobo/GPU/CPU and RAM like thats all you need to run a computer.  

[QUOTE="gnutux"]How about I have an XBOX 360 + SDTV? It saves tons of money. The graphics are still as amazing as if I was playing on my 17" monitor (at 1280x1024), and still, I get to play my games on my 23". Which is bigger 23" or 17"? I wonder .... gnutuxSpecialForcesOp

I rather play on the 17" Screen then have the Graphics look Monkey Turd SD.

I've built and linked a PC with the equivalent power of a 360 for 520 bucks. I don't think you can find an HDTV for 120 bucks.Vandalvideo

bu what about the buh buh buh couch.out0v0rder

The the the the.. chair! 

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I've built and linked a PC with the equivalent power of a 360 for 520 bucks. I don't think you can find an HDTV for 120 bucks.AfterShafter

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I've built and linked a PC with the equivalent power of a 360 for 520 bucks. I don't think you can find an HDTV for 120 bucks.AfterShafter

Mistake #1: Gaming on laptops

Mistake #2: Ignoring the bottom low settings that Xbox360 is running at...

A 7900GS OC, a P4 3.2 ghz processor, and 1 gig of ram are the PC equivalent or rought equiavlent of the 360. If your laptop stutters playing CIV 4 with THAT rig, you have SERIOUS issues.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]A 7900GS OC, a P4 3.2 ghz processor, and 1 gig of ram are the PC equivalent or rought equiavlent of the 360. If your laptop stutters playing CIV 4 with THAT rig, you have SERIOUS issues.AfterShafter

Mistake #1: Gaming on laptops

Mistake #2: Ignoring the bottom low settings that Xbox360 is running at...

True_Gamer_

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

Mistake #1: Gaming on laptops

Mistake #2: Ignoring the bottom low settings that Xbox360 is running at...

AfterShafter

I've heard this argued about many times.

To enjoy HD gaming on your next-gen console you do not need an HDTV, in fact if you are reading this post right now you have one of the two items needed.

Firstly you need a monitor, LCD or CRT works fine. Secondly you need the $40 VGA cable.

I tried this on my LCD 19" BenQ monitor last night and it was stunning. (my monitor was only $180 a year ago in case you are wondering)

I know alot of you knew about this already, but if you were curious as to if it looks good or not, YES it looks amazing.

If you have an Xbox 360 and a PC monitor without an HDTV GET THIS NOW, it makes a HUGE difference.

 

 

honestAB3

True, but then that throws out two console arguments with 1) playing on a 50" HDTV instead of a 19" Monitor and 2) playing on the couch far from the monitor and relax.   Anyone who has a console is going to want to play on a big screen.

Its probably simply that your hardware is dying out because you did something bad with it. Last time i checked, consoles tend to have the same problem. My 360 has failed twice on me, while the running count of times my PC has failed on me is zero. I find that the ammount of times a PC fails is directly proportional to how clueless the owner is.Vandalvideo

They do offer SVC casses that are smaller than gamecubes. Its a matter of finding one. I used to have one, but my brand got discontinued. Easily portable. Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Its probably simply that your hardware is dying out because you did something bad with it. Last time i checked, consoles tend to have the same problem. My 360 has failed twice on me, while the running count of times my PC has failed on me is zero. I find that the ammount of times a PC fails is directly proportional to how clueless the owner is.AfterShafter

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] They do offer SVC casses that are smaller than gamecubes. Its a matter of finding one. I used to have one, but my brand got discontinued. Easily portable. AfterShafter

*Looks up from sticking his power strip in a sock* One of ten things could happen. Overheating, static discharge, etc. No one ever told me I couldn't stick this power strip in my sock, but I'm going to do it anyway. Why? because I don't know anybetter. If something bad happens to my 360 its the platform's fault for being aboslutely horrible........ Lets see where this logic takes us shall we?Vandalvideo

And that $520 price tag you initially brought up, pure fantasy for your average PC user who could easily run a 360, PS3, or Wii.  You expect them to go to a variety of web sites, order in just the right parts, then get them all and assemble them?  Yeah, casual users are going to be able to do that, and just as easily as firing up a gaming console.

Or wait, maybe you'll say "There's always PC geeks" or whatever that website was you recommended last time we spoke... Which I took a look at and found out that most of their services ran for over a hundred dollars, sometimes just for phone support.

As a PC gamer of several decades, it is *painfully obvious* that PC gaming is not as cheap or easy as console gaming is.  It has HUGE advantages, but also notable disadvantages, which you just cannot seem to admit.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] *Looks up from sticking his power strip in a sock* One of ten things could happen. Overheating, static discharge, etc. No one ever told me I couldn't stick this power strip in my sock, but I'm going to do it anyway. Why? because I don't know anybetter. If something bad happens to my 360 its the platform's fault for being aboslutely horrible........ Lets see where this logic takes us shall we?AfterShafter

And that $520 price tag you initially brought up, pure fantasy for your average PC user who could easily run a 360, PS3, or Wii.  You expect them to go to a variety of web sites, order in just the right parts, then get them all and assemble them?  Yeah, casual users are going to be able to do that, and just as easily as firing up a gaming console.

Or wait, maybe you'll say "There's always PC geeks" or whatever that website was you recommended last time we spoke... Which I took a look at and found out that most of their services ran for over a hundred dollars, sometimes just for phone support.

As a PC gamer of several decades, it is *painfully obvious* that PC gaming is not as cheap or easy as console gaming is.  It has HUGE advantages, but also notable disadvantages, which you just cannot seem to admit.

[QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I've built and linked a PC with the equivalent power of a 360 for 520 bucks. I don't think you can find an HDTV for 120 bucks.Vandalvideo

I'd like to see this link. Include everything too, sick of people listing a mobo/GPU/CPU and RAM like thats all you need to run a computer.

HDD? OS? Router? Wi-fi? Soundcard? Who actually plays with the cheap onboard card they give you. Card reader, if we're being really nitpicky. PSU? There are so many components to a PC its crazy. I built mine last year and the receipt stretched all the way down a page. Most people list like 5 or 6 things. You'll be driving right back to the store for all the stuff you forgot. 

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] They do offer SVC casses that are smaller than gamecubes. Its a matter of finding one. I used to have one, but my brand got discontinued. Easily portable. Vandalvideo

$50 is a lot when you have a total window of $520 to work with.

Every one of you that says he can build a sub-600 computer, to a man, excludes the fine print or glosses over certain things. You know that nobody will buy the absolute cheapest component they can, regardless of quality. You tend to exclude things like soundcards because they always have a built-in one. A built-in soundcard does not compare to the soundcard in the 360 or PS3, which is the point of building one. You never include an OS, even though an infinitesimal percentage of users actually use a free OS like Linux, and Linux will NOT be easily able to run most of the upcoming "Games for Windows (GRR!)" crap they are releasing, while your XBOX or PS3 OS will always be able to run everything released for it. If you're comparing it to a PS3, you also need to include Wi-fi capability. Not a big deal, but thats probably $40 nobody includes, which is also a big chunk of a small number like $520. 

The fact is, you cannot get a computer that is honestly on par with a 360 or PS3 for $520. No amount of bargain hunting will get you every single component you need to do everything the consoles can, with comparable quality. If you buy the POS no-name versions of everything you will be shelling out to replace parts long before my consoles ever **** themselves. 

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

Mistake #1: Gaming on laptops

Mistake #2: Ignoring the bottom low settings that Xbox360 is running at...

AfterShafter

Civ 4 will stutter on any computer, and any console, when you have most of the nations with the world covered, do you know how many actions change per turn? That lag has nothing to do with the Graphics , thats purely the ammount of CPU load the game goes through when a large scale game nearing the end does .... CiV 4 is the most craptastic comparison you could of used, cause a console would limit it 10-fold.