Console 4K vs PC Gaming Hz

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#1  Edited By PCgameruk
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Which is better, or does 4k suit consoles and high Hz suit PC gaming due to screen size?

Good video showing show higher refresh rates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1cmhZs1P54

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#2 BassMan
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You can have both with PC. Choose based on the game you want to play.

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#3 Pedro
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No HDR with PC though. :(

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#4 BassMan
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@Pedro said:

No HDR with PC though. :(

That depends on the game.

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#5 TryIt
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well the question I have is it true 4K.

Or are they just hooking up a 4K TV to the screen and calling it 4K gaming?

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#6 pelvist
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@Pedro said:

No HDR with PC though. :(

Yes there is, it depends on the game just like with consoles.

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#7 Pedro
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There are significantly less support for HDR in PC gaming that console gaming. Lets not act as if its a selling feature for PC gaming.

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#8 PCgameruk
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@BassMan said:

You can have both with PC. Choose based on the game you want to play.

Not really, you don't see many monitors that offer 4k and a high refresh rate like 144Hz. I see what you're saying, but from what i have heard its hard to go back to 60fps when your used to a higher refresh rate.

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#9  Edited By BassMan
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@PCgameruk: I have a 1440p/144hz G-Sync monitor and a 4K/60hz OLED TV. I play my PC on both regularly. Obviously, I prefer to play shooters and twitch based games on the higher refresh rate monitor, but 4K/60fps can be preferable for other games.

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#10  Edited By AdobeArtist  Moderator
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@tryit said:

well the question I have is it true 4K.

Or are they just hooking up a 4K TV to the screen and calling it 4K gaming?

Most games (among the graphically intense titles) on the X1X and PS4pro use checkerboard upscaling or dynamic resolution.

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#11 slimdogmilionar
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I’d take 144hz over console honestly, hell I’m still happy with 1080p ultra 60fps. Imo better textures, aa, and fps beats med-low textures with bad aa and locked fps that aren’t guaranteed.

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#12 ConanTheStoner
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Personally I'll take the high refresh rates any day. Not to say having cleaner image quality isn't welcome, but holy shit it's hard to go back after experiencing games on a 144hz display while running well above 60fps. Aside from just being easier on the eyes, it really just makes for a better and much more responsive play experience.

Not sure I'm understanding the premise of this thread though. On PC you can choose to go either way. On console, you have no choice in the matter.

My PC is hooked up to two monitors now, one of which is 144hz, but nothing stopping me from hooking it up to the 4k big screen if I so choose.

And shit, if you have the money to spend, you don't have to choose at all. Just have both lol.

Personally, I'm not jumping into 4k gaming full on until a single GPU can handle the newest games at 4k with framerates well above 60fps.

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#13 Gatygun
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My general rule is:

1) high settings

2) 1080p

3) 100+ fps

After that settings get upped.

1) sustain fps

2) higher settings ( even modded )

3) higher resolution

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#14  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@Gatygun said:

My general rule is:

1) high settings

2) 1080p

3) 100+ fps

After that settings get upped.

1) sustain fps

2) higher settings ( even modded )

3) higher resolution

This right here I agree.

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4K is a ridiculous resolution for games. Too demanding. I prefer QHD.

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#16  Edited By jun_aka_pekto
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Does a PS4 Pro (or XB1X) record gameplay in 4K or is the recording resolution selectable? Or, does it record fullsize, depending on what the resolution of the game is?

Can a gaming PC record a 4K gameplay at full resolution?

I'm a 1080p guy. So, I don't know. ;)

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#17 PCgameruk
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1080p it just no for me in 2018 it would have to be 2K at least if i went Hz.

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#18 gameofthering
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I'll go 4K as soon as they have high refresh rates.

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#19 deactivated-5e081d8b4abb0
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Ewwwwww 1080p.

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#20 PCgameruk
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@gameofthering said:

I'll go 4K as soon as they have high refresh rates.

No point, 4k at 60fps is hard now how long before 4k could hit 144Hz? That's why you don't them and they will be real expensive. You pay loads more just going from 1080p to 1440p on a higher Hz monitor.

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#21  Edited By AzatiS
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The first time youll see 144hz or more to run smoothly at high settings, youll never mind resolution or HDR again. Im still gaming at 1080p and i dont give shit ! 144hz ftw ! :)

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#22 DragonfireXZ95
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@Gatygun said:

My general rule is:

1) high settings

2) 1080p

3) 100+ fps

After that settings get upped.

1) sustain fps

2) higher settings ( even modded )

3) higher resolution

Yep, I won't upscale the resolution until I'm hitting ultra settings at high FPS. Would rather see better lighting and shadows as opposed to higher resolution, something that makes a minor difference compared to the actual engine tweaks.

1080p at ultra settings is a lot better than 4k at medium.

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It really depends on the game I'm playing.

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@AzatiS said:

The first time youll see 144hz or more to run smoothly at high settings, youll never mind resolution or HDR again. Im still gaming at 1080p and i dont give shit ! 144hz ftw ! :)

144hz, that's it? Get with the times...

https://www.blurbusters.com/480hz-monitor-at-blur-busters-being-tested/

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HDR + Couch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gaming on desk

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#26  Edited By GarGx1
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Frame rates trump everything but when you can have ultra/max settings, 2k or even 4k and 60 fps it just gets better.

Shame HDR isn't a set standard yet. I'll guarantee that a lot of people think their HDR capable TV displays everything with HDR, without ever realising that they have a Dolby Vision set that won't display HDR10 etc.

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#27  Edited By AzatiS
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@BassMan said:
@AzatiS said:

The first time youll see 144hz or more to run smoothly at high settings, youll never mind resolution or HDR again. Im still gaming at 1080p and i dont give shit ! 144hz ftw ! :)

144hz, that's it? Get with the times...

https://www.blurbusters.com/480hz-monitor-at-blur-busters-being-tested/

Hohohoho, thats out of my league ! 480, DAAAMN! That would be smoother than smooth. But ... find me a card to manage 480 fps at 1080p the latest titles ! And im buying tommorow !

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@Pedro said:

There are significantly less support for HDR in PC gaming that console gaming. Lets not act as if its a selling feature for PC gaming.

There are significantly less 4K games on consoles than on PC

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#29  Edited By PimpHand_Gamer
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Triple monitor 12k gaming...only on PC.

Loading Video...

...oh I'm sorry, someone was saying something about consoles or 4k or something?

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#30  Edited By m3dude1
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@pimphand_gamer: god damn that looks awful tho. who cares about 12k res when the base game looks so hideous to begin with. but congrats on spending several thousand dollars to play with worse graphics than gt sport on a base ps4

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#31 Mozelleple112
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@pimphand_gamer:

In correct to call it 12k lol.

4K = 8 million pixels

3 x 4K = 24 million pixels

8K = 35 million pixels.

12k would be some where around 70 million pixels

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#32  Edited By Zaryia
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@m3dude1 said:

@pimphand_gamer: god damn that looks awful tho. who cares about 12k res when the base game looks so hideous to begin with. but congrats on spending several thousand dollars to play with worse graphics than gt sport on a base ps4

He knows. That's why he posted it, it was a sad dig at PC.

But as long as decent PC continues to play nearly all video games better than xbox/playstation can I'm content with PC's technical capabilities. On top of far higher aaa/aa titles at MC and GS and better online gaming by exponential margins.

Worth it.

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#33  Edited By Zaryia
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@hawkeye44 said:

HDR + Couch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gaming on desk

4k/60fps in everything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1080p in most games, far longer load times, and 20-30 fps with fake 4k.

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#34 Zaryia
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@Diddies said:
@Pedro said:

There are significantly less support for HDR in PC gaming that console gaming. Lets not act as if its a selling feature for PC gaming.

There are significantly less 4K games on consoles than on PC

And sadly IS a selling feature for the new consoles.

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#35 dxmcat
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@zaryia said:
@Diddies said:
@Pedro said:

There are significantly less support for HDR in PC gaming that console gaming. Lets not act as if its a selling feature for PC gaming.

There are significantly less 4K games on consoles than on PC

And sadly IS a selling feature for the new consoles.

Quote train.

Lets pretend that there will be TVs with 384 LED backlighting zones. oh wait. There wont, just PC monitors.

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#36 PCgameruk
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This beast is out 2018

  • 35-inch UWQHD (3440 x 1440) curved gaming monitor provides an immersive panoramic gaming experience
  • NVIDIA G-SYNC HDR delivers vivid realism with HDR for lifelike contrast & color, with the brightest whites & darkest blacks, that brings out details like never before
  • Ultra-fast 200Hz refresh rate for super-smooth gaming visuals
  • Quantum-dot technology provides the cinema-standard DCI-P3 color gamut for realistic colors and smoother gradation
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#37 UssjTrunks
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Resolutions beyond 1440p are pretty pointless on a monitor due to the small screen size. But we'll get cheap 4k monitors soon enough anyway.