Can the Wii EVER Redeem Itslef?

the Wii, to many but not to all, is not necesarily terrible or fantastic but a dissapointment..... It gave people lots of hopes and dreams with its original concepts but when it came down to business it did not live to the expectations. I can even say as a former Wii owner that the system is not utterly horrible but it needs alot of work. I had hopes of playing the perfect star wars game, or the most immersive shooter game, but it never happened. Games like SSBB and SMG still kept me happy, but it couldnt last forever. I have no regrets selling the system to get a 360.

Do you think it is possible for the system to REALISTICALLY redeem itself. BE REALISITIC PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Could you ever gain interest in it again??

Let us be honest, when the system first came out alot of us were very pumped, and our first run on Wii Sports was a blast. Dont lie, you know it was fun! The dissapointment came gradually, when the five star game releases became lacking and the wiggle gimmick became obvious. I dont think Wii Plus is going to solve all its problems, just one or two. I dont even think fixing up the developers' attitudes is all. It wont be easy. It may never even be done. But i have hope Nintndo will be smart about this, or their future business profitsare at great risk. The bigger they get the harder they fall. The audience Nintendo has stuk its guns with is not a long lasting one! Old people must die, little kids must grow up, and parents will find life affairs become more important than video gmes. This brief success of the Wii will not last and the video gamers, the ones that will always be there, wont be there this time to cushion Nintendo's fall. What do you think?

Yes it can. Needs more devs support though.

The Wii doesn't need to redeem itself in my eyes and guess what? MY eyes are the only eyes that matter to ME.

whats wrong with it? its my favorite console of this gen, and it looks like its best year is on its way.

the wii does not need to be. Its the best console selling console . Hard core gamers need to stop crying and buy some thing . Just cus it was not made for hard core does not mean its bad.

Nintendo is too busy counting their money to care what you think.

redeem from what? It doesn't have to. I was never pumped for it, I got bashed when it was the sensation over It won't be as good as the other systems though...Giancar

If it gets to level 30, it can learn the Paladin skill, Redemption.

1. The Wii doesn't need redemption.

2. If you think it does, 2010 is the answer.

the wii does not need to be. Its the best console selling console . Hard core gamers need to stop crying and buy some thing . Just cus it was not made for hard core does not mean its bad.

dontshackzmii

Nope, at this point everyone has already made their minds. I like it, the haters hate it, nothing will change.

Satoru Iwata is sitting at his desk pondering what can he do to redeem the Wii to the people on System Wars....hmmm....ponders for 5 minutes then realizes the Wii sold another 10,000 units in that time frame...goes back to counting the stack of 10,000 yen bills on his desk.

Um.. Reedeem itsself from what, PS3, PC and Xbox fanboys will never experience classics like Metroid, Zelda, Muramasa and Zack and Wiki to name a few, Gameplay > Graphics

For me it is the Mainstream Industry that needs to redeem itself. The Wii is a great living room gamers system that draws a whole bunch of people in. I keep finding bizarre and fun games for it. l4d2 is my favourite PC game and I have decided on a forced break. Playing the Munchables at the moment. Save the planet by eating aliens. Cute but kind of sick at the same time. And cost me a tenner.

I am not sure the massive sales, huge production costs model can last. The future of gaming lies somewhere between Nintendo, Apple and Valve.

1. The Wii doesn't need redemption.

2. If you think it does, 2010 is the answer.

awssk8er716

Um.. Reedeem itsself from what, PS3, PC and Xbox fanboys will never experience classics like Metroid, Zelda, Muramasa and Zack and Wiki to name a few, Gameplay > Graphics

Megaman5364

the Wii, to many but not to all, is not necesarily terrible or fantastic but a dissapointment..... It gave people lots of hopes and dreams with its original concepts but when it came down to business it did not live to the expectations. I can even say as a former Wii owner that the system is not utterly horrible but it needs alot of work. I had hopes of playing the perfect star wars game, or the most immersive shooter game, but it never happened. Games like SSBB and SMG still kept me happy, but it couldnt last forever. I have no regrets selling the system to get a 360.

Do you think it is possible for the system to REALISTICALLY redeem itself. BE REALISITIC PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Could you ever gain interest in it again??

Let us be honest, when the system first came out alot of us were very pumped, and our first run on Wii Sports was a blast. Dont lie, you know it was fun! The dissapointment came gradually, when the five star game releases became lacking and the wiggle gimmick became obvious. I dont think Wii Plus is going to solve all its problems, just one or two. I dont even think fixing up the developers' attitudes is all. It wont be easy. It may never even be done. But i have hope Nintndo will be smart about this, or their future business profitsare at great risk. The bigger they get the harder they fall. The audience Nintendo has stuk its guns with is not a long lasting one! Old people must die, little kids must grow up, and parents will find life affairs become more important than video gmes. This brief success of the Wii will not last and the video gamers, the ones that will always be there, wont be there this time to cushion Nintendo's fall. What do you think?

ms555

Redeem itself? From what? Nintendo's Finnish importer's incompetency with their repair service? (located in a bit hard-to-reach place, open so that it's practically impossible for me to get the thing repaired). Yeah, they deserve a good scolding. Otherwise? They're the single cause I'm a console gamer anymore, so redemption sounds like a ridiculous proposition. The third parties' conduct this gen is another matter entirely.

The audience Nintendo has stuk its guns with is not a long lasting one! Old people must die, little kids must grow up, and parents will find life affairs become more important than video gmes. This brief success of the Wii will not last and the video gamers, the ones that will always be there, wont be there this time to cushion Nintendo's fall.ms555

Nintendo doesn't need people to stay. One of the cornerstones of the company's strategy is making it easy and attractive for people to start gaming. Two people get bored, three new ones come in their place, and so on. You should also understand that the people who play on the Wii and the DS are, (and this is a broad generalization) interested in a different kind of software than the users of the HD Twins. Wii users tend to have money, but not time. They prefer software that's used in short bursts, whether for connecting with and enchaning your real life (Brain Age, Wii Fit, etc.) or immersing yourself in a fictional world for a while (Mario titles, for example).

It's the Xbox and the Playstation that are in trouble. Thus far, gaming expansion has been driven by population growth and multiple console ownership. Now Europe and Japan are facing population decline, and people's interest in traditional gaming systems is declining. In short: More and more "core" gamers leave the market, less and less new ones come in.

i don't know if it can, but nothing is imposible

when i purchased the Wii i owned a PS3 and a PC, even though the Wii was graphically challanged compared to PS3,360, and PCs, it still was able to make beautiful games aslong as they werent try to push limits to create any realism like the next gen consoles etc, for example...Zelda Twilight Princess:sure its not graphically extensive but they made it beautifully. Unfortunately it seems less games are put out by Nintendo and honestly just alot of low budget party games, and rushed lazy ports by third party devs. I play the mess out of Wii Fit with the family, and usually Fire up the PS3 for anything serious.

Wii seems better when Nintendo is heavily behind the wheel when it comes to titles, but lately they've been silent, never know what they are up to:P

It's a great system, with great games, if you look past all the garbage shovelware. What is there to redeem?

Zelda..............

Red Steel 2.

It'll be awesome.

Hardcore wise? Probably not. In fact it's only just loosing respect in terms of 3rd party respect. The Wii might have been a true victim of its own success.Gamingcucumber

or developers not releasing main stream titles on the Wii.

When SMG2 comes out it will. Then I'll beat it. Then I'll sell my wii.

Nintendo is too busy counting their money to care what you think.

RawDeal_basic

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Nintendo is too busy counting their money to care what you think.

ermacness

laughable 3rd party?zack and wiki, little kings story, muramasa, monster hunter tri and tatsVScapcom say hi.

1st party has diminshed? i think we can all agree that SMG>SMS. Metroid has a little.

miserable online? play mario kart wii or even the conduit.

Old people must die, little kids must grow up, and parents will find life affairs become more important than video gmes.

ms555

Old people must die, little kids must grow up, and parents will find life affairs become more important than video gmes.

ms555

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="RawDeal_basic"]

Nintendo is too busy counting their money to care what you think.

gamedude234

laughable 3rd party?zack and wiki, little kings story, muramasa, monster hunter tri and tatsVScapcom say hi.

1st party has diminshed? i think we can all agree that SMG>SMS. Metroid has a little.

miserable online? play mario kart wii or even the conduit.

Nintendo is too busy counting their money to care what you think.

RawDeal_basic

^^^^THIS^^^^

I think as interesting and different as the Wii-mote motion control was in the beginning, that if the Wii came out with a basic control scheme ala (Gamecube), it might have been more respected by fans and devs.

The hardware is an improvement from the Gamecube, okay so it's about equal to or slightly better than the original Xbox hardware specs, but it is an improvement, and it has

Wi-Fi, it's completely backwards compatible with all Gamecube games, and it offers downloads from N-64, SNES, NES and Sega and NEC Turbo Grafx 16, it does have the most backwards compatibility going for it this gen.

I got my son the Wii for christmas and he's primarily a FPS fan, and as most of you know the controls for shooters on the Wii are the worst out of the 3 platforms this gen, but he's somewhat adapted to it.

However i think because of the massive sales the Wii has had the Dev's feel obligated to develop games for it, but they don't really feel passionate about developing for it because of the now awkward control scheme.

It's not the graphical inferiority of the Wii, just look at Call of Duty Modern Warfare Reflex Edition, now it's actually Call of Duty 4 Modern warfare but the controls killed the game in reviews, but graphically it was very acceptable.

So in a gaming world where FPS and third person shooters are being incorporated into genres like platformers and RPG's the Wii is suffering from it's control scheme.

I think as interesting and different as the Wii-mote motion control was in the beginning, that if the Wii came out with a basic control scheme ala (Gamecube), it might have been more respected by fans and devs.

I got my son the Wii for christmas and he's primarily a FPS fan, and as most of you know the controls for shooters on the Wii are the worst out of the 3 platforms this gen, but he's somewhat adapted to it.

However i think because of the massive sales the Wii has had the Dev's feel obligated to develop games for it, but they don't really feel passionate about developing for it because of the now awkward control scheme.

It's not the graphical inferiority of the Wii, just look at Call of Duty Modern Warfare Reflex Edition, now it's actually Call of Duty 4 Modern warfare but the controls killed the game in reviews, but graphically it was very acceptable.

So in a gaming world where FPS and third person shooters are being incorporated into genres like platformers and RPG's the Wii is suffering from it's control scheme.CODnut

You have some grains of truth in there. The bit about devs not being enthusiastic about the Wii is dead on, but I wouldn't attribute crap controls to the Wii itself - Nintendo has shown time and again that motion control on the Wii can and will work if it's done well. I'd say it's simply the devs' lack of passion for - and the industry's widespread fear of - the Wii that results in awkward control schemes. The game industry as a whole is very oriented towards methodically producing one cinematic Michael Bay -esque action blockbuster after another, but the Wii audience's tastes are completely different and in many ways diametrically opposite to the industry. Wii customers appreciate arcade-like, no-bs experiences that can be enjoyed in short bursts. This is quite antithetical to the grandiose cinematic visions many developers have. And then there are the people who aren't looking for immersion at all, but simply enjoy software that enhances and connects with their real lives.

The industry doesn't make money on the Wii because it doesn't want to. Making money on the Wii requires placing the customer first and thinking about what they would want. The industry isn't motivated by serving the customer, it is motivated to crank out formulaic blockbusters or some weird artistic vision games few people have any interest in. On top of it all, the publishers don't advertise their Wii games. It's no wonder they don't sell. It's hard to buy crap you don't like if you don't know it exists in the first place.

Oh man, the Wii is such a horrible console. Yeah, there may be a couple of good games, but there is no redeemtion for this, mainly, shovelware console. I wish i never bought the thing. And yes, i have tried all the so called "good" games like LKS and Zack and Wiki...and umm...they are not all that good. Everything from the horrible online "features" like friend codes, lack of support for peripherals like Wii Speak and Wii Motion Plus, the horrible third party support, lack of any real effort to make quality games that can even compare to the ps2 or original xbox generationof games. Yes its a crappy system, one of the worst ever made. Bah, the wii just sucks.

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[QUOTE="RawDeal_basic"]

Nintendo is too busy counting their money to care what you think.

gamedude234

laughable 3rd party?zack and wiki, little kings story, muramasa, monster hunter tri and tatsVScapcom say hi.

1st party has diminshed? i think we can all agree that SMG>SMS. Metroid has a little.

miserable online? play mario kart wii or even the conduit.

laughable 3rd party?zack and wiki, little kings story, muramasa, monster hunter tri and tatsVScapcom say hi.

1st party has diminshed? i think we can all agree that SMG>SMS. Metroid has a little.

miserable online? play mario kart wii or even the conduit.

gamedude234

the third party support is laughable compared to the competition, and the fact that it's actually the market leader makes it more laughable.

and you're actually defending the online? really?

For me it is the Mainstream Industry that needs to redeem itself. The Wii is a great living room gamers system that draws a whole bunch of people in. I keep finding bizarre and fun games for it. l4d2 is my favourite PC game and I have decided on a forced break. Playing the Munchables at the moment. Save the planet by eating aliens. Cute but kind of sick at the same time. And cost me a tenner.

I am not sure the massive sales, huge production costs model can last. The future of gaming lies somewhere between Nintendo, Apple and Valve.

EddieBGreen

This. When developers put their egos aside, they'll realize how important the Wii is to gaming.

Um.. Reedeem itsself from what, PS3, PC and Xbox fanboys will never experience classics like Metroid, Zelda, Muramasa and Zack and Wiki to name a few, Gameplay > Graphics

Megaman5364

For me it is the Mainstream Industry that needs to redeem itself. The Wii is a great living room gamers system that draws a whole bunch of people in. I keep finding bizarre and fun games for it. l4d2 is my favourite PC game and I have decided on a forced break. Playing the Munchables at the moment. Save the planet by eating aliens. Cute but kind of sick at the same time. And cost me a tenner.

I am not sure the massive sales, huge production costs model can last. The future of gaming lies somewhere between Nintendo, Apple and Valve.EddieBGreen

Ssh, the industry doesn't know the blockbuster model isn't wise. Keep quiet so the non-customer focused industry can destroy itself by it's own actions. Until then, we won't have a stop to the stupidity.

Satoru Iwata is sitting at his desk pondering what can he do to redeem the Wii to the people on System Wars....hmmm....ponders for 5 minutes then realizes the Wii sold another 10,000 units in that time frame...goes back to counting the stack of 10,000 yen bills on his desk.

coasterguy65

So you have people b^&*(n about NINTENDO, but they stand by a crummy business like MS and their worthless junk of a console 360?? AND people are ok with SONY launching at 500-600$$ and leaving millions of their fans behind??

SO gripe about Nin. doing something different at an affordable price. Free online and dlc from as far back as the original Nin to N64. Do I play my Wii all the time? NO I dont. BUT I would rather stand behind them next gen as the RROD/YLOD, overpriced, price gouging money hungry MS/SONY.

Keep in mind I have a 360 since launch, a Wii, and im getting a PS3 in FEB. So no fanboyism here.