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#1 iamfudge
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which game do you htink was the biggest flop in 2007
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#2 mo0ksi
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For me: Bioshock
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#3 Danm_999
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I'd say Lair. It was hyped as a great game, but failed to even be mediocre.

Runners up would include Blue Dragon and Hellgate London.

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#4 gameruk2010
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Lair and mass effect ...oh yer RED STEEL.
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#5 PBSnipes
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Lair, hyped AA scored 4.5. Although personally I'd say Bioshock, a shooter/RPG hybrid with weak RPG elements and crappy shooting.
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#6 aldarrak
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Lair, no competition.

As for BioShock, this competes for the best FPS in history. The story element is brilliant and enough to make a complete TV show. The environments are phenomenal. The sound/visual effects are amazing and top notch. The gameplay is solid, fast, rushes the blood in your veins. Legendary characters.

So now again.. how did BioShock get mentioned here?

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#7 fabz_95
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Definitely Lair

Cows hyped it so much and it got 4.5 :lol:

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#8 sadikovic
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Shadowrun is my biggest dissapointement... I really expect more mods, maps.
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#9 mo0ksi
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Lair, no competition.

As for BioShock, this competes for the best FPS in history. The story element is brilliant and enough to make a complete TV show. The environments are phenomenal. The sound/visual effects are amazing and top notch. The gameplay is solid, fast, rushes the blood in your veins. Legendary characters.

So now again.. how did BioShock get mentioned here?

aldarrak
It was from me and it was opinionated. But for the biggest GS flop this year would be Lair.
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#10 siggy3
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Isn´t there already a thread like this...

In terms of hype vs review scores, Lair wins flop of 2007

My personal flop is that I still haven´t made up my mind about which next gen console I should buy

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#11 PBSnipes
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Lair, no competition.

As for BioShock, this competes for the best FPS in history. The story element is brilliant and enough to make a complete TV show. The environments are phenomenal. The sound/visual effects are amazing and top notch. The gameplay is solid, fast, rushes the blood in your veins. Legendary characters.

So now again.. how did BioShock get mentioned here?

aldarrak
The shooting elements are weak compared to other games, the plasmids are incredibly unbalanced (in the sense that some are must-haves and some are useless) and the great big "moral decision" breaks down to pressing "x" or "y".
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#12 prodiqy32
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lair. red steel, shadowrun, and splinter cell rouge agent are good choices. the biggest dissapointment for me was project gotham 4.
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#13 Mu5uk0
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red steel didn't come out this year..
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#14 kingtahktahkhuk
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from the top of my mind, lair
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#15 Always-Honest
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For me: Bioshockmo0ksi

that game didn't even flop...

lair is the biggest flop. the game was hyped to be 1080P 120fps and would really show the PS3 superiourity

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#16 SpruceCaboose
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Lair and then Blue Dragon.
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#17 SpruceCaboose
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The shooting elements are weak compared to other games, the plasmids are incredibly unbalanced (in the sense that some are must-haves and some are useless) and the great big "moral decision" breaks down to pressing "x" or "y".
PBSnipes

Some Plasmids are more useful, but all of them are powerful if you know how to use them right. The shooting is on par with most other shooters I've played, and every games decisions break down into button presses, as controllers are what games use as input devices.

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#18 Zenkuso
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Lair.

That game was hyped so much compared to everything else and not even to score an A rating was pitiful.

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#19 PBSnipes
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]The shooting elements are weak compared to other games, the plasmids are incredibly unbalanced (in the sense that some are must-haves and some are useless) and the great big "moral decision" breaks down to pressing "x" or "y".
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Some Plasmids are more useful, but all of them are powerful if you know how to use them right. The shooting is on par with most other shooters I've played, and every games decisions break down into button presses, as controllers are what games use as input devices.

True you could use some of the plasmids, but thats like saying you could play through Half Life Ep1 only using the grav-gun, it's possible but I don't see why you would do it. As for the shooting I found the shotgun to behave randomly, sometimes taking down enemies with 1 shot, sometimes taking 2 or 3 (all at close range), as well as the aim being a little spotty with the pistol. Finally my comment about the moral decisions was about how there is little difference between the two actions. Other than the ending and the bonus plasmids, whether you harvest or save Little Sisters has little effect on the game.
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#20 SpruceCaboose
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True you could use some of the plasmids, but thats like saying you could play through Half Life Ep1 only using the grav-gun, it's possible but I don't see why you would do it. As for the shooting I found the shotgun to behave randomly, sometimes taking down enemies with 1 shot, sometimes taking 2 or 3 (all at close range), as well as the aim being a little spotty with the pistol. Finally my comment about the moral decisions was about how there is little difference between the two actions. Other than the ending and the bonus plasmids, whether you harvest or save Little Sisters has little effect on the game.
PBSnipes

The whole purpose of the harvesting/rescuing was always about the ending, as the world is a warped and twisted dystopia. I doubt the splicers care much about whether or not you killed the Little Sisters. They just want ADAM.

I dunno. I am obviously biased in favor of the game, as its still in competition for my own personal GotY right now, as I loved the atmosphere, the story, the gameplay...the game itself. It to me was a very cinematic game that I literally could not put down.

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#21 haterex
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Lair and Blue Dragon...
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#22 PBSnipes
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]True you could use some of the plasmids, but thats like saying you could play through Half Life Ep1 only using the grav-gun, it's possible but I don't see why you would do it. As for the shooting I found the shotgun to behave randomly, sometimes taking down enemies with 1 shot, sometimes taking 2 or 3 (all at close range), as well as the aim being a little spotty with the pistol. Finally my comment about the moral decisions was about how there is little difference between the two actions. Other than the ending and the bonus plasmids, whether you harvest or save Little Sisters has little effect on the game.
SpruceCaboose

The whole purpose of the harvesting/rescuing was always about the ending, as the world is a warped and twisted dystopia. I doubt the splicers care much about whether or not you killed the Little Sisters. They just want ADAM.

I dunno. I am obviously biased in favor of the game, as its still in competition for my own personal GotY right now, as I loved the atmosphere, the story, the gameplay...the game itself. It to me was a very cinematic game that I literally could not put down.

My problem with the harvest/save decision was that it was so hyped as this huge moral decision that broke down into literally "what ending do you want". You aren't even punished for choosing to save little sister's even though the game tries to make it seem that you are. I agree that thr story and atmosphere are great, just that for a game hyped (and generally reviewed) as one of the best ever, I found it fell sort, especially when compared to similar games like Deus Ex and System Shock 2 (which were criminally underrated).
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#23 darkslider99
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We can easily predict what this thread will say
By most posters:
Lair
Bitter Cows:
Mass Effect

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#24 iamfudge
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so it looks like lair wins
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#25 Swift_Boss_A
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I'm gonna go with Mass Effect and Lair. Mass Effect was touted to be the biggest RPG of 07 as well as GOTY. Lair I honestly can't believe people hyped this game, sure the graphics looked great but the gameplay, ugh !
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#26 ps3wizard45
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lair
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#27 Bristar
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For the people saying that Bioshock flopped hardest, what are you talking about? It scored a 9 - it met it's hype. It didn't flop.

I can understand if you personaly don't like the game, but that has nothing to do with it flopping or not.

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#28 Homesrfan
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Lair.

What a massacre.

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#29 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Cmon even cow's will agree that Lair was one of the biggest flops of all time. Next on the FOTY would be Rehash & Clank just because of the sheer amount of whining and complaining the cow's did.
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#30 michael_man
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lair
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#31 michael_man
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sorry for the double post.........but mass effect even if it was a flop is the best flop ever!!!
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#32 wiretoss
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For those of you that don't know, Red Steel came out LAST year.

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#33 skrat_01
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Lair and Mass Effect.

Actually Mass Effect. It was hyped AAA, and AAAA by some - and got AA. That was huge. No one saw it comming.

Lair on the other hand - everyone knew it would be terrible.

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#34 darkodonnie
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game that flopped by the most: Lair

game that caused the most fanboy damage control: Ratchet and Clank: FTOD

my personal biggest dissapointment: Super Paper Mario

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#35 Heil68
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Lair
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#36 ragek1ll589
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Lair, simply because it flopped by such a great amount.
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#37 badgert
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Lair by far.
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#38 ball_of_air
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Blue Dragon.
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#39 omgimba
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Ovciously lair.
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#40 Supafly1
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Lair.
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#41 Adrian_Cloud
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Mass Effect, i can't beleive it was hyped GOTY. Its not even a candidate anymore, thats horrible.
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#42 peaceful_anger
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In terms of score wise, Lair no competition. In terms of overall hype, Mass Effect is the biggest flop IMO. It was guaranteed AAA status and could possibly be the game to score the elusive 10 on GS by lemmings. It was also the heavy favorite to win GOTY. Even the majority of lemmings picked Mass Effect to win GOTY over their most hyped game, Halo 3.

And before people say Mass Effect can't be the biggest flop, then tell me why people consider Zelda: TP to be one of the biggest flops ever on this site when it only missed its hype score by only .2.
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#43 Sim_genius
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Definitely Lair

Cows hyped it so much and it got 4.5 :lol:

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Indeed. What an historic day that was :lol:
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#44 Gunraidan
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Easily LAIR.

For me: Bioshockmo0ksi

Seconded.

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#45 NielsNL
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PS3: Lair

360: Blue Dragon

Wii: Mario and Sonic at the Olympics

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#46 shiftbourne
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I guess Lair. I didn't really have any expectations for it, but it was hyped to be really good, yet got a 4.5. Probably Mass Effect too, but I don't really care about that too much.
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#47 Elviathan
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Lair definitely.
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#48 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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PS3: Lair

360: Blue Dragon

Wii: Mario and Sonic at the Olympics :?

NielsNL
No logical sheep hyped Mario and sonic special olympics. You should of put super paper mario instead :P or Metroid prime 3
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#49 MoldOnHold
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Lair without a doubt.

What was the official hype? AA? If so, then it scored 4 levels below the hype. Ouch.
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#50 MoldOnHold
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Mass Effect, i can't beleive it was hyped GOTY. Its not even a candidate anymore, thats horrible. Adrian_Cloud
Geez people, it scored half a point lower than projected. It's not that big of a flop. :?