Are xbox fans poor and holding back the series x and PS5? 75% of xbox sales are series S.

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#1  Edited By daredevils2k
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In the recent Microsoft versus FTC documents leak, a new revelation has come up regarding the Xbox sales, and this might be shocking to some. One of the documents from the PDF shows the gaming results of Xbox in April 2022 and according to it, the Xbox Series S accounts for more console sales than the Series X.

Series S has always been debated for not being a next-generation console as it is less powerful in comparison to Series X and PS5. However, it turns out that the different console options have been embraced well by the customers.

According to the “Console Sell-In Mix” in the documents, 74.8% of next-generation Xbox owners own theXboxSeries S and merely 25.1% had the Series X, and since these numbers are from 2022, they could have changed now. However, Series S surpassing Series X in sales is not that surprising. The Series S, although less powerful than the Series X and lacks 4k gaming, is a much more affordable option than the three next-generation consoles.

The Series S console costs $299 or $349.99 if players go for the recently launched 1TB model whereas Series C is priced at $499 similar to the PlayStation 5. The Series S console is a viable option for lots of players and has always been in demand, even when it was limited in stock. Even though it is less powerful, the Series X is capable of playing big games and even if it can not run at higher visual settings, it still does a good job.

As reported byVGC, Xbox head Phil Spencer also stated the previous month that Xbox would not drop Series S for any games. All the titles that will launch on Series X, will also come to Series S. He also mentioned that it is important to have entry-level price consoles andMicrosoftis committed to both its consoles.

Amongst the trove of documents, a new mid-generation Xbox console was also leaked which will be a digital-only refresh for Series X and S. Microsoft has always said that it does not have any plans for any new console but the leaks revealed the contrary. The refresh console is codenamed ‘Brooklin’ with 2TB storage, Wi-Fi 6E, and reduced power consumption.

A redesigned immersive controller codenamed ‘Sebile’ is also reportedly in the works. With the console refresh, the Game Pass will also get upgraded with extra games and new features. For example, the players will be able to stream the games on mobile devices. These leaks reveal the future of Microsoft gaming which seems pretty exciting and gamers can’t wait to see what’s next.

What are your thoughts about Series S selling more than Series X? Are you looking forward to the Xbox console refresh? Leave your thoughts in the comments!

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this is very concerning and troubling. to think that the series S is holding back the Series X and PS5, due to majority of xbox owners are series S owners is very confusing, especially when XBOX fans state that the xbox console are for serious gamers.

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"Update 10:23am PT: It's worth pointing out that while we don't know exactly what period these documents refer to (April 2022 sales alone, quarter to date, or year to date), they're emblematic of a greater trend. Both Mat Piscatella of Circana and Daniel Ahmad of Niko Partners told IGN their firms estimate the current split between Xbox Series X and S is closer to 50/50, with the S having a slight lead over the X. (Original story continues below)"

I also listened to the IGN podcast where they followed up on their report and stated that this was during the time of the Series X supply shortage.

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#3  Edited By hardwenzen  Online
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75%? wtf. I knew lems weren't OK, but this is just devastating, and simply put, pathetic.

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Oh no!

Anyway.

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I just don't understand if gaming is a hobby you enjoy and you plan on having that console for years why not spend the extra money??

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#6  Edited By super600  Moderator
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@nfamouslegend said:

I just don't understand if gaming is a hobby you enjoy and you plan on having that console for years why not spend the extra money??

People rather not spend 500 dollars+tax(possibly even more than that in some countries) to get an X/PS5 if they don't game consistently or want something to play current gen games at a cheaper price. Where I live both the X/PS5 costs 650 dollars+tax at the moment. If you include any extra taxes you are paying over 700 dollars to buy a series X/PS5. The Series S(512GB) costs like 270 dollars less and the 1TB model costs like 200 dollars less. This is not including a potential purchase of an online subscription or any other items.

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@super600: does this imply that the majority of lems are casual gamers?

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#8  Edited By SargentD
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SX is a must, I have physical games and use BC. I don't see how anyone could by a new console without a discdrive ps or xbox

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@nfamouslegend said:

@super600: does this imply that the majority of lems are casual gamers?

No. Their are some people who play games a lot who bought an S to supplement their PS5 or Switch. Their are also people who bought an S who only play games on their S.

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#10  Edited By sakaiXx
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Think about it even with the cheap last Gen Series S, PS5 still outsold the Xbox consoles 3 to 1 and the aging Switch outsold xbox around 1.5-2 to 1. Without that last gen xbox user number, xbox could ends up even worse so lems should always be grateful it exist.

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#11 UItravioIence
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Lol Series S 😂

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@navyguy21: I see everyone has skipped past your post, well those who want to push a certain narrative that is 🤣

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@super600 said:
@nfamouslegend said:

@super600: does this imply that the majority of lems are casual gamers?

No. Their are some people who play games a lot who bought an S to supplement their PS5 or Switch. Their are also people who bought an S who only play games on their S.

Despite I game primarily on PC (with my R9 5900X/RTX 4070/32GB I might add) I still ended up purchasing Xbox Series S just to play old/last-gen games on it and I sold my Xbox One long ago. The Series S is a nice edition for my kids to play on it and I'll sometimes play Rare Replay on it.

What I'm saying is, the Series S has its place in the gaming world, I wouldn't use it for current games and if I wanted a more capable machine, go with the Series X if you want to have a main gaming machine and never skimp for anything. The Series S has its flaws, but it does have a purpose to suit basic needs for the gamer. (And no, this doesn't make me a manticore. I am simply a PC gamer first & foremost)

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#14  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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GOOD! F**k this gen, don’t care. 😆

Hope there's more parity clauses and the Series S is the base console for them.

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Are S owners stalling progress?

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#16  Edited By WitIsWisdom
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I haven't even read the comments yet, but I'm ready with my popcorn.. lol.

Edit - thought the poor comment would ruffle some people's feathers... guess not.

All that aside though, yes the series S is definitely holding things back, if that wasn't the case then games like Baldurs Gate wouldn't be skipping it.

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@hardwenzen said:

Are S owners stalling progress?

Hope so.

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#18  Edited By hardwenzen  Online
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:

Are S owners stalling progress?

Hope so.

Don't you think that's kinda goofy? Last gen was way too long, we get new systems, and because of you, this generation isn't going anywhere.

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Ah, I said a couple of days ago that I was disappointed that there wasn't a thread for this.

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@davillain said:
@super600 said:
@nfamouslegend said:

@super600: does this imply that the majority of lems are casual gamers?

No. Their are some people who play games a lot who bought an S to supplement their PS5 or Switch. Their are also people who bought an S who only play games on their S.

Despite I game primarily on PC (with my R9 5900X/RTX 4070/32GB I might add) I still ended up purchasing Xbox Series S just to play old/last-gen games on it and I sold my Xbox One long ago. The Series S is a nice edition for my kids to play on it and I'll sometimes play Rare Replay on it.

What I'm saying is, the Series S has its place in the gaming world, I wouldn't use it for current games and if I wanted a more capable machine, go with the Series X if you want to have a main gaming machine and never skimp for anything. The Series S has its flaws, but it does have a purpose to suit basic needs for the gamer. (And no, this doesn't make me a manticore. I am simply a PC gamer first & foremost)

Yeah. The S is definitely a cheap way to play retro Xbox games.

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@WitIsWisdom: At the beginning when the idiots started with the poor jokes some did said it was unnecessary but right now no one cares.

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Microsoft the only supplier that thinks about those who can't afford the more expensive consoles.

Gives everyone choice.

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#24  Edited By Litchie
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S or X, doesn't matter much. Still weak compared to PC. Series S might be more bang for the buck, so I don't blame em.

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#25  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:

Are S owners stalling progress?

Hope so.

Don't you think that's kinda goofy? Last gen was way too long, we get new systems, and because of you, this generation isn't going anywhere.

LOL Still mad I called you goofy that time. XD

I've noticed that. There are words that are meaningless in the UK that are super triggering in the US or other places.

Like "goofy" or "garbage". Why are these words so meaningful there?

That said, this generation hasn't been going anywhere since it started.

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@Litchie said:

S or X, doesn't matter much. Still weak compared to PC. Series S might be more bang for the buck, so I don't blame em.

Some PC's, and those PC's costs a lot more. Just adding context here.

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@last_lap said:
@Litchie said:

S or X, doesn't matter much. Still weak compared to PC. Series S might be more bang for the buck, so I don't blame em.

Some PC's, and those PC's costs a lot more. Just adding context here.

I always thought the best thing about the PC was options, not enthusiasts parts. I started out with an i5-3470 and a GTX 750Ti, I had a great time with those.

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#28 Litchie
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@last_lap: That goes without saying, I thought. Yeah, PCs costs a lot more. But you have to also think about PCs also doing a hell of a lot more.

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@Litchie said:

@last_lap: That goes without saying, I thought. Yeah, PCs costs a lot more. But you have to also think about PCs also doing a hell of a lot more.

Not on here it doesn't. As for the rest, doing more doesn't necessarily mean better.

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#30 Saint-George
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St87field,xbox studios COD and having no games to play have the 🐄 reked 🤣

Hurry up spidermeh these 🤡 are losing their minds,though if it scores poorly the mental breakdown will be good to watch 🐄😭🤣

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Yawn...

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So, Xbox and Xbox fandom screwed up whole gen again?

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#33  Edited By SecretPolice
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A little outdoors activity may help. lol :P

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#34 blaznwiipspman1
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Nothing wrong with the series S, it's a fantastic console. Yes its much weaker but it runs most games fantastic, all those last gen games, and even current gen games run great. The latest games might run poorer or lack features but thats not really a huge deal. The price is right, and it runs games decently enough. Just remember that switch is the best selling console, and it's not even last gen device, it's on the level of Xbox 360.

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@navyguy21 said:

"the current split between Xbox Series X and S is closer to 50/50"

Yikes, well this thread backfired, lol!!

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@Litchie said:

@last_lap: That goes without saying, I thought. Yeah, PCs costs a lot more. But you have to also think about PCs also doing a hell of a lot more.

yeah it has to render all those porn videos lmao. j/k just making a joke.

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#37  Edited By GhostOfGolden
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@kvallyx said:
@navyguy21 said:

"the current split between Xbox Series X and S is closer to 50/50"

Yikes, well this thread backfired, lol!!

We knew this like a week ago. Publications rushing to get clicks with misinformation/disinformation is nothing new. But a click or two will get you to the truth. But all folks want to do is read the headlines or look at graphs without reading anything.

And it’s not just Xbox gamers. All console gamers are poor, dumb or lazy. It’s one of those 3. Or a mix. Hell, people that are all 3 probably make up the majority

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#38 dabear
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@daredevils2k: Maybe Xbox gamers aren't graphics wh*res?

I got an X for the disk drive (so I could toss my blu-ray player).

If I didn't want to do that, I'd have bought an S instead.

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Xbox won't release a pro which is strange as Phil Spencer said they will never be beaten on power. I have a ps5 and a series s and nothing available on the s right now has looked out of place on the system. That might change in the next couple of years.

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#40  Edited By GhostOfGolden
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@dabear said:

@daredevils2k: Maybe Xbox gamers aren't graphics wh*res?

We know that can’t be true. Xbox gamers have been propping up Digital Foundry since 2017.

@robert_sparkes said:

Xbox won't release a pro which is strange as Phil Spencer said they will never be beaten on power.

We should play a Phil Spencer drinking game one weekend. Take a shot for anytime Phil Spencer has contradicted himself this gen. Folks need to remember, Phil is an executive out there trying to sell things to consumers. Saying, “we will never be beaten on power” is him exciting the base and selling the brand to potential consumers. Any time Phil Spencer is in front of a mic, he’s selling us something. Please remember that

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@daredevils2k: Now this is a conspiracy theory I have not heard since "Wii is holding back current gen gaming".

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#42 dabear
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@ghostofgolden: SW lems are, but how many lems are left in these forums? A dozen?

SW is "CowSpot".

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#43  Edited By GhostOfGolden
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@dabear said:

@ghostofgolden: SW lems are, but how many lems are left in these forums? A dozen?

SW is "CowSpot".

The breakdown is probably pretty even. Years ago the number of Cows vs Lems was like 3:1. Not any more. And today the Lems are FAR more vocal. And more rabbid. But as loyal as ever.

There hasn’t been a reason to be a Cow for years. That’s why they’ve all left.

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#44 palasta
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It doesn't matter what the breakdown is. Could be 1%. Developers would still be required to develop for the S when they want their games on Xbox platform.

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#45  Edited By Antwan3K
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We were definitely overdue for a Series S concern thread.. I was starting to get worried..

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Sounds like Playstation users have so much money they're willing to part with. Sony should have charged $2,000 for the PS5.

It is pretty different to release 2 consoles at the same time that aren't on the same power level. I would have preferred the Series S be equivalent to X and cost $400. Same setup as what PS5 had for disc or digital models. That parity clause has been looking dumb.

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#47 KathaarianCode
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@ghostofgolden: It's hilarious that in a forum where anti Xbox content surpasses enormously any other kind you, of all people , try to create this looney narrative.

Most people here, that you try to paint as "rabbid Xbox fans", are are simply dismissive of the toxic outrage and cancel culture you guys love to partake in and basically take the "that's very concerning" route and that's it. You're the one betting and losing your account over Xbox.

A simple exercise, check the last 100 threads and tell us what's the percentage of Xbox bad/doomed threads vs everything else.

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#49  Edited By blaznwiipspman1
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@dabear: we might not be graphics whores but we still got the most powerful 12 tflop console and best looking games. It's true. Nothing comes close to MSFS20, forza or halo infinite. The cows are delusional and believe their 9tflop (oc to 10.28 tflop) has better graphics 😆

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One of the best looking games of the generation so far is Horizon Forbidden West and it is on PS4 too, so no.