Anyone feel this way about the cell?

Well so far the PS3 is on par with the 360 graphics wise BUT do you guys think when devs work out how to utilise the cell to its maximum it will be like the ps4 is out graphics wise?

Look at it this way, the PS3 can have 50gb games and heck even crysis was less than 20.. I think the PS3 has the potential to do better than crysis as there will be more room for the textures and things on the bluray, and the cell should be able to run it when it is figured out

We are already seeing games like MGS4 and KillZone2 which look amazing but they still full short of Crysis, but give it another year and it will be a whole new story!

Well so far the PS3 is on par with the 360 graphics wise BUT do you guys think when devs work out how to utilise the cell to its maximum it will be like the ps4 is out graphics wise?

Look at it this way, the PS3 can have 50gb games and heck even crysis was less than 20.. I think the PS3 has the potential to do better than crysis as there will be more room for the textures and things on the bluray, and the cell should be able to run it when it is figured out

We are already seeing games like MGS4 and KillZone2 which look amazing but they still full short of Crysis, but give it another year and it will be a whole new story!

PS_John

No.

Wow did you buy into their hype :lol: Your still eating up all the hype they gave you.

As far as you said......Just Wait basicly :lol:

Look at it this way, the PS3 can have 50gb games and heck even crysis was less than 20.. I think the PS3 has the potential to do better than crysis as there will be more room for the textures and things on the bluray, and the cell should be able to run it when it is figured outPS_John

Nope, MGS4 uses the cell to its full ability apparently.-Wheels-

do you really think that?

Well so far the PS3 is on par with the 360 graphics wise BUT do you guys think when devs work out how to utilise the cell to its maximum it will be like the ps4 is out graphics wise?

Look at it this way, the PS3 can have 50gb games and heck even crysis was less than 20.. I think the PS3 has the potential to do better than crysis as there will be more room for the textures and things on the bluray, and the cell should be able to run it when it is figured out

We are already seeing games like MGS4 and KillZone2 which look amazing but they still full short of Crysis, but give it another year and it will be a whole new story!

PS_John

[QUOTE="-Wheels-"]Nope, MGS4 uses the cell to its full ability apparently.ejstrup

do you really think that?

Idk, I didn't work on MGS4.

Well so far the PS3 is on par with the 360 graphics wise BUT do you guys think when devs work out how to utilise the cell to its maximum it will be like the ps4 is out graphics wise?

Look at it this way, the PS3 can have 50gb games and heck even crysis was less than 20.. I think the PS3 has the potential to do better than crysis as there will be more room for the textures and things on the bluray, and the cell should be able to run it when it is figured out

We are already seeing games like MGS4 and KillZone2 which look amazing but they still full short of Crysis, but give it another year and it will be a whole new story!

PS_John

So to sum up what you're saying.

JUST WAIT!

haha lets just wait and see.

Wait... that seems to be a very common word in association with Sony.

wait wait wait wait ..... wait some more. PS4 comes out and guess what.... everyone is still WAITING! :p

[QUOTE="-Wheels-"]Nope, MGS4 uses the cell to its full ability apparently.ejstrup

do you really think that?

Someone should tell you that storage space =/= better graphics. What holds back both the PS3 and 360 when compared to the PC is ram. Another person duped by teh cell. :lol:

So more room does mean better graphics

storage space does mean you can have better graphics

i google searched a screenshot of crysis and it is 400kb and then i searched mario and they are like 50kb

So more room does mean better graphics

PS_John

Please stop here. It will only get worse. Storage space can affect graphics in theory, but in reality it is the ram hurting consoles.

Well so far the PS3 is on par with the 360 graphics wise BUT do you guys think when devs work out how to utilise the cell to its maximum it will be like the ps4 is out graphics wise?

Look at it this way, the PS3 can have 50gb games and heck even crysis was less than 20.. I think the PS3 has the potential to do better than crysis as there will be more room for the textures and things on the bluray, and the cell should be able to run it when it is figured out

We are already seeing games like MGS4 and KillZone2 which look amazing but they still full short of Crysis, but give it another year and it will be a whole new story!

PS_John

This made me laugh. Honestly man you have no idea what you're talking about and bought into the cell hype. The ps3 is a solid machine but it cannot do Crysis visuals not mention visuals better than crysis.

[QUOTE="PS_John"]

Well so far the PS3 is on par with the 360 graphics wise BUT do you guys think when devs work out how to utilise the cell to its maximum it will be like the ps4 is out graphics wise?

Look at it this way, the PS3 can have 50gb games and heck even crysis was less than 20.. I think the PS3 has the potential to do better than crysis as there will be more room for the textures and things on the bluray, and the cell should be able to run it when it is figured out

We are already seeing games like MGS4 and KillZone2 which look amazing but they still full short of Crysis, but give it another year and it will be a whole new story!

sirk1264

This made me laugh. Honestly man you have no idea what you're talking about and bought into the cell hype. The ps3 is a solid machine but it cannot do Crysis visuals not mention visuals better than crysis.

Ok I know this is a bit different but the PS3 can run bluray films at 1080p so whats to say it cant run crysis at something like 720p? In theory they are being runned on the same bluray drive

[QUOTE="sirk1264"][QUOTE="PS_John"]

Well so far the PS3 is on par with the 360 graphics wise BUT do you guys think when devs work out how to utilise the cell to its maximum it will be like the ps4 is out graphics wise?

Look at it this way, the PS3 can have 50gb games and heck even crysis was less than 20.. I think the PS3 has the potential to do better than crysis as there will be more room for the textures and things on the bluray, and the cell should be able to run it when it is figured out

We are already seeing games like MGS4 and KillZone2 which look amazing but they still full short of Crysis, but give it another year and it will be a whole new story!

PS_John

This made me laugh. Honestly man you have no idea what you're talking about and bought into the cell hype. The ps3 is a solid machine but it cannot do Crysis visuals not mention visuals better than crysis.

Ok I know this is a bit different but the PS3 can run bluray films at 1080p so whats to say it cant run crysis at something like 720p? In theory they are being runned on the same bluray drive

For you to be able to interact with anything on screen in a videogame, the CPU has to process your request with the gamecode. Bluray HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS, that is just what Sony wants you to believe.

[QUOTE="sirk1264"][QUOTE="PS_John"]

Well so far the PS3 is on par with the 360 graphics wise BUT do you guys think when devs work out how to utilise the cell to its maximum it will be like the ps4 is out graphics wise?

Look at it this way, the PS3 can have 50gb games and heck even crysis was less than 20.. I think the PS3 has the potential to do better than crysis as there will be more room for the textures and things on the bluray, and the cell should be able to run it when it is figured out

We are already seeing games like MGS4 and KillZone2 which look amazing but they still full short of Crysis, but give it another year and it will be a whole new story!

PS_John

This made me laugh. Honestly man you have no idea what you're talking about and bought into the cell hype. The ps3 is a solid machine but it cannot do Crysis visuals not mention visuals better than crysis.

Ok I know this is a bit different but the PS3 can run bluray films at 1080p so whats to say it cant run crysis at something like 720p? In theory they are being runned on the same bluray drive

The ps3 and 360 couldn't even do COD4 at 720p. It can't do GTAIV which is a big open world at 720p. What makes you think that a demanding game like crysis will run at 720p. Movies don't need much to run at 1080p. There is not enough ram to run a game at crysis visuals. you realize crysis demands at least 2 gigs of ram to run at high or very high i think. The consoles have only 512MB of ram. Not even a gig.

Well so far the PS3 is on par with the 360 graphics wise BUT do you guys think when devs work out how to utilise the cell to its maximum it will be like the ps4 is out graphics wise?

Look at it this way, the PS3 can have 50gb games and heck even crysis was less than 20.. I think the PS3 has the potential to do better than crysis as there will be more room for the textures and things on the bluray, and the cell should be able to run it when it is figured out

We are already seeing games like MGS4 and KillZone2 which look amazing but they still full short of Crysis, but give it another year and it will be a whole new story!

PS_John

The cell was the greatest failure in console gaming.

After the Sega Saturn.

The cell was the greatest failure in console gaming.

After the Sega Saturn.

Pietrooper

Ooo, that wasn't nice.

[QUOTE="sirk1264"][QUOTE="PS_John"]

Well so far the PS3 is on par with the 360 graphics wise BUT do you guys think when devs work out how to utilise the cell to its maximum it will be like the ps4 is out graphics wise?

Look at it this way, the PS3 can have 50gb games and heck even crysis was less than 20.. I think the PS3 has the potential to do better than crysis as there will be more room for the textures and things on the bluray, and the cell should be able to run it when it is figured out

We are already seeing games like MGS4 and KillZone2 which look amazing but they still full short of Crysis, but give it another year and it will be a whole new story!

PS_John

This made me laugh. Honestly man you have no idea what you're talking about and bought into the cell hype. The ps3 is a solid machine but it cannot do Crysis visuals not mention visuals better than crysis.

Ok I know this is a bit different but the PS3 can run bluray films at 1080p so whats to say it cant run crysis at something like 720p? In theory they are being runned on the same bluray drive

And your lack of knowledge is proven when comparing a movie and a video game. For starters, a movie is a pre-rendered video file. A game is not, not at all.

[QUOTE="PS_John"][QUOTE="sirk1264"][QUOTE="PS_John"]

Well so far the PS3 is on par with the 360 graphics wise BUT do you guys think when devs work out how to utilise the cell to its maximum it will be like the ps4 is out graphics wise?

Look at it this way, the PS3 can have 50gb games and heck even crysis was less than 20.. I think the PS3 has the potential to do better than crysis as there will be more room for the textures and things on the bluray, and the cell should be able to run it when it is figured out

We are already seeing games like MGS4 and KillZone2 which look amazing but they still full short of Crysis, but give it another year and it will be a whole new story!

DarthKalo

This made me laugh. Honestly man you have no idea what you're talking about and bought into the cell hype. The ps3 is a solid machine but it cannot do Crysis visuals not mention visuals better than crysis.

Ok I know this is a bit different but the PS3 can run bluray films at 1080p so whats to say it cant run crysis at something like 720p? In theory they are being runned on the same bluray drive

For you to be able to interact with anything on screen in a videogame, the CPU has to process your request with the gamecode. Bluray HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS, that is just what Sony wants you to believe.

The PS3 interacts with bluray aswell? How else could you rewind pause etc?

[QUOTE="PS_John"][QUOTE="sirk1264"][QUOTE="PS_John"]

Well so far the PS3 is on par with the 360 graphics wise BUT do you guys think when devs work out how to utilise the cell to its maximum it will be like the ps4 is out graphics wise?

Look at it this way, the PS3 can have 50gb games and heck even crysis was less than 20.. I think the PS3 has the potential to do better than crysis as there will be more room for the textures and things on the bluray, and the cell should be able to run it when it is figured out

We are already seeing games like MGS4 and KillZone2 which look amazing but they still full short of Crysis, but give it another year and it will be a whole new story!

The_Crucible

This made me laugh. Honestly man you have no idea what you're talking about and bought into the cell hype. The ps3 is a solid machine but it cannot do Crysis visuals not mention visuals better than crysis.

Ok I know this is a bit different but the PS3 can run bluray films at 1080p so whats to say it cant run crysis at something like 720p? In theory they are being runned on the same bluray drive

And your lack of knowledge is proven when comparing a movie and a video game. For starters, a movie is a pre-rendered video file. A game is not, not at all.

Idk, have you ever played Sewer Shark, it's teh next gen pre-rendered experience of the century! Well, last century.

The cell was the greatest failure in console gaming.

After the Sega Saturn.

Pietrooper

if you're talking about hardware failures, the xbox360 is up in first place, its the most unrealiable piece of hardware (consolewise) ever released... that is a failure...

cell has a different architecture which is hard to program for unless you truly take time, but surely not a failure...

[QUOTE="Pietrooper"]

The cell was the greatest failure in console gaming.

After the Sega Saturn.

-Wheels-

Ooo, that wasn't nice.

I love how 1.5 years or so into a console's life fanboys seem to know its tapped. They call it a failure when it hasn't hardly shown anything yet. :lol:

I agree the TC is off his rocker but you, Pietrooper, are just as bad.

[QUOTE="Pietrooper"]

The cell was the greatest failure in console gaming.

After the Sega Saturn.

Malta_1980

if you're talking about hardware failures, the xbox360 is up in first place, its the most unrealiable piece of hardware (consolewise) ever released... that is a failure...

cell has a different architecture which is hard to program for unless you truly take time, but surely not a failure...

I curtain that these consoles can both sirpass the vizuals that Crisis has sett... but befour we try and figuer out when this will accore I think that it would be bettar for all of usa to help me get my IQ up after reading this fread it fell and know I canknot speilberg:|.

[QUOTE="PS_John"]i google searched a screenshot of crysis and it is 400kb and then i searched mario and they are like 50kb

So more room does mean better graphics

VoodooGamer

That doesn't mean anything. It could have been that the screenshot wasn't compressed as well or it's of a different format. What is more, what is the resolution of each screenshot?

And, storage DOES NOT equal better graphics. I guess you could say that more storage would have the capability to store more textures of a determined size but unless the PS3 can process all those textures or a few texture taken from Crysis(Which it can't) then it is all for not. It's the GPU that processes textures and thus is the most important vehicle in that department. Ram just makes all those textures faster to access which decreases load times and pop-ups but as someone else has already said, the consoles lack enough RAM to run Crysis or anything on it's level.

[QUOTE="-Wheels-"][QUOTE="Pietrooper"]

The cell was the greatest failure in console gaming.

After the Sega Saturn.

The_Crucible

Ooo, that wasn't nice.

I love how 1.5 years or so into a console's life fanboys seem to know its tapped. They call it a failure when it hasn't hardly shown anything yet. :lol:

I agree the TC is off his rocker but you, Pietrooper, are just as bad.

No, seriously. All the cell did was cut off tons of PC/Console exclusives and forced developers to have to learn a totally new hardware structure. The way foward is obviously a standard DirectX capable console for ease of cross-platform development.

And according to Sony, it's the main thing that jacked the price of the Playstation 3 up, even above the blu-ray drive.

[QUOTE="The_Crucible"][QUOTE="-Wheels-"][QUOTE="Pietrooper"]

The cell was the greatest failure in console gaming.

After the Sega Saturn.

Pietrooper

Ooo, that wasn't nice.

I love how 1.5 years or so into a console's life fanboys seem to know its tapped. They call it a failure when it hasn't hardly shown anything yet. :lol:

I agree the TC is off his rocker but you, Pietrooper, are just as bad.

No, seriously. All the cell did was cut off tons of PC/Console exclusives and forced developers to have to learn a totally new hardware structure. The way foward is obviously a standard DirectX capable console for ease of cross-platform development.

And according to Sony, it's the main thing that jacked the price of the Playstation 3 up, even above the blu-ray drive.

oh, and i forgot, a 1000mb of ram (which i know niether the 360 or the ps3 has)delta3074

Being saying this since page 1.

[QUOTE="ejstrup"]

[QUOTE="-Wheels-"]Nope, MGS4 uses the cell to its full ability apparently.xgraderx

do you really think that?

It does not use the full potential of th PS3, nothing has come close to the PS3's full potential, not even Killzone 2.He said it himself afterwards, that MGS4 did not use the full potential of the PS3 and was happy with the finish product.

[QUOTE="-Wheels-"][QUOTE="Pietrooper"]

The cell was the greatest failure in console gaming.

After the Sega Saturn.

The_Crucible

Ooo, that wasn't nice.

I love how 1.5 years or so into a console's life fanboys seem to know its tapped. They call it a failure when it hasn't hardly shown anything yet. :lol:

I agree the TC is off his rocker but you, Pietrooper, are just as bad.

There is the problem right there. 'Nuff said.

[QUOTE="The_Crucible"][QUOTE="-Wheels-"][QUOTE="Pietrooper"]

The cell was the greatest failure in console gaming.

After the Sega Saturn.

Pietrooper

Ooo, that wasn't nice.

I love how 1.5 years or so into a console's life fanboys seem to know its tapped. They call it a failure when it hasn't hardly shown anything yet. :lol:

I agree the TC is off his rocker but you, Pietrooper, are just as bad.

No, seriously. All the cell did was cut off tons of PC/Console exclusives and forced developers to have to learn a totally new hardware structure. The way foward is obviously a standard DirectX capable console for ease of cross-platform development.

And according to Sony, it's the main thing that jacked the price of the Playstation 3 up, even above the blu-ray drive.

While i agree that the price was an issue, it has dropped. And most of that is due to lower cost in cell production. Yes, that should have been done before launch but it wasn't. Early adopters got a little screwed, like ALL early adopters do. But don't act like it was leaps and bounds over the 360. And don't act like the features are on par with each other.

Does that say ANYTHING about the power of the cell? The future of the cell? What the cell will do for games the rest of this gen? NO! For all we know, MGS4 is a great as we've read. And that right there is great proof of the cell's power.

Peace.

[QUOTE="xgraderx"][QUOTE="ejstrup"]

[QUOTE="-Wheels-"]Nope, MGS4 uses the cell to its full ability apparently.Nonstop-Madness

do you really think that?

It does not use the full potential of th PS3, nothing has come close to the PS3's full potential, not even Killzone 2.He said it himself afterwards, that MGS4 did not use the full potential of the PS3 and was happy with the finish product.

Link please. I'm pretty sure I don't remember hearing that.

[QUOTE="Pietrooper"][QUOTE="The_Crucible"][QUOTE="-Wheels-"][QUOTE="Pietrooper"]

The cell was the greatest failure in console gaming.

After the Sega Saturn.

DarthKalo

Ooo, that wasn't nice.

I love how 1.5 years or so into a console's life fanboys seem to know its tapped. They call it a failure when it hasn't hardly shown anything yet. :lol:

I agree the TC is off his rocker but you, Pietrooper, are just as bad.

No, seriously. All the cell did was cut off tons of PC/Console exclusives and forced developers to have to learn a totally new hardware structure. The way foward is obviously a standard DirectX capable console for ease of cross-platform development.

And according to Sony, it's the main thing that jacked the price of the Playstation 3 up, even above the blu-ray drive.

Not really if you compare the PS3 to 360..

Xbox 360 Elite - $450
Wireless Adapter - $100
2 Years Xbox live - $100
Battery Pack - $12
Quick Charge Kit - $30

Total - $692

PS3 - $400 Total

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"][QUOTE="Pietrooper"]

The cell was the greatest failure in console gaming.

After the Sega Saturn.

delta3074

if you're talking about hardware failures, the xbox360 is up in first place, its the most unrealiable piece of hardware (consolewise) ever released... that is a failure...

cell has a different architecture which is hard to program for unless you truly take time, but surely not a failure...

Ask MS first how much money it lost with the harware problems on Xbox360 before stating it made the most money...

[QUOTE="DarthKalo"][QUOTE="Pietrooper"][QUOTE="The_Crucible"][QUOTE="-Wheels-"][QUOTE="Pietrooper"]

The cell was the greatest failure in console gaming.

After the Sega Saturn.

PS_John

Ooo, that wasn't nice.

I love how 1.5 years or so into a console's life fanboys seem to know its tapped. They call it a failure when it hasn't hardly shown anything yet. :lol:

I agree the TC is off his rocker but you, Pietrooper, are just as bad.

No, seriously. All the cell did was cut off tons of PC/Console exclusives and forced developers to have to learn a totally new hardware structure. The way foward is obviously a standard DirectX capable console for ease of cross-platform development.

And according to Sony, it's the main thing that jacked the price of the Playstation 3 up, even above the blu-ray drive.

Not really if you compare the PS3 to 360..

Xbox 360 Elite - $450
Wireless Adapter - $100
2 Years Xbox live - $100
Battery Pack - $12
Quick Charge Kit - $30

Total - $692

PS3 - $400 Total

Do not start that crap. Out of the box the 360 pro (which is all you need to get into gaming on the 360, elite is not worth another 100 dollars) is cheaper than the ps3. Do not start with the add on crap saying you need this and this and this because its all optional.

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"][QUOTE="xgraderx"][QUOTE="ejstrup"]

[QUOTE="-Wheels-"]Nope, MGS4 uses the cell to its full ability apparently.-Wheels-

do you really think that?

It does not use the full potential of th PS3, nothing has come close to the PS3's full potential, not even Killzone 2.He said it himself afterwards, that MGS4 did not use the full potential of the PS3 and was happy with the finish product.

Link please. I'm pretty sure I don't remember hearing that.

would like if you give us a link whee you heard/read that MGSIV used the PS3's full potential.... because I didnt read that anywhere, you might have mistaken that MGSIV used the full capacity of the Bly-ray but definately not the PS3's hardware potential....

you should know better, that no console has its full potential tapped/used in the first year and a half...