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#1 oreojones18
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i just looked at the launch titles for kinect and its just awful. i dont se how they expect kinect to outsell the ipads launch with crap games like that

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#2 racing1750
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Both deserve to fail.
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#3 Riverwolf007
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sw opinion about move and kinect is about a relevant as my opinion on feminine hygene products. if it's not made for you why bother?

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#4 campzor
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they are both horrible...but at least move is going to be compatible with core games (killzone 3 for example)
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#5 Miroku32
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Both deserve to fail.racing1750
I go with him.
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#6 heretrix
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"And they said Move's launch titles were bad."

They are. I'm still picking up a full Move set this weekend though.

It's all about the future, baby.

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they are both horrible...but at least move is going to be compatible with core games (killzone 3 for example)campzor

This. Also RE5, MAG, and heavy rain. And SOCOM 4... all built in or as a part of a free patch.

Kinect?

Ummm yeah, nothing.

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#8 clr84651
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Kinect will not sell as well as many xfans think. Then those who buy it will feel at a loss trying to like it without any controllers to behold.

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#9 ahnzz
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kinect is awesome, the move is awesome, they're both great ...id choose ps move just becauseyou can usethe motion controls in some games that enable motion controls.. looking at xboxkinect there games are entirely in kinect, motion control use only

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Both deserve to fail.racing1750
Agreed. Motion controls aren't good for console gaming.
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#11 clr84651
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I am glad The Move has controllers. I wouldn't be interested at all if Sony did what MS has done.

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#12 mattuk69
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[QUOTE="racing1750"]Both deserve to fail.Miroku32
I go with him.

^this^ And they will both fail. The sooner Sony and M$ relise the keyboard and mouse is the best gaming device the better.
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#13 soapandbubbles
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why do people think Move should or will fail, it's a superior wiimote, we all know the wiimote works and is accepted, move will follow....common sense. Move has got some great reviews out there...people should be worried about kinect a no controller device that relys heavily on motion.
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#14 soapandbubbles
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[QUOTE="Miroku32"][QUOTE="racing1750"]Both deserve to fail.mattuk69
I go with him.

^this^ And they will both fail. The sooner Sony and M$ relise the keyboard and mouse is the best gaming device the better.

err and the wiimote? Move isn't failing...kinect, most likely.
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#15 Ninja-Hippo
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We need to at least wait for reviews first for Kinect's games, but there's certainly nothing remotely hardcore in there.
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[QUOTE="Miroku32"][QUOTE="racing1750"] I go with him.

[QUOTE="racing1750"]Both deserve to fail.aaronmullan
Agreed. Motion controls aren't good for console gaming.

I disagree with you guys.
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they are both horrible...but at least move is going to be compatible with core games (killzone 3 for example)campzor
I just hope that it'll be responsive. If not then it failed. But what about RE5 Gold Edition!? I believe it already come out!
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[QUOTE="campzor"]they are both horrible...but at least move is going to be compatible with core games (killzone 3 for example)KillerWabbit23

This. Also RE5, MAG, and heavy rain. And SOCOM 4... all built in or as a part of a free patch.

Kinect?

Ummm yeah, nothing.

wouldn't it just be better to play those games with a controller?

i'm just saying, if you're going to make games for move and kinect at least make games that are supposed to play to it's controller strenghts

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#19 lbjkurono23
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[QUOTE="KillerWabbit23"]

[QUOTE="campzor"]they are both horrible...but at least move is going to be compatible with core games (killzone 3 for example)ohthemanatee

This. Also RE5, MAG, and heavy rain. And SOCOM 4... all built in or as a part of a free patch.

Kinect?

Ummm yeah, nothing.

wouldn't it just be better to play those games with a controller?

i'm just saying, if you're going to make games for move and kinect at least make games that are supposed to play to it's controller strenghts

Resident evil 4 with motion controls was a lot better than the GC/ps2 version.
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[QUOTE="campzor"]they are both horrible...but at least move is going to be compatible with core games (killzone 3 for example)KillerWabbit23

This. Also RE5, MAG, and heavy rain. And SOCOM 4... all built in or as a part of a free patch.

Kinect?

Ummm yeah, nothing.

kinect hasnt launched yet. they can put patches easy for some kinect features. just be glad you can go back to normal controls after you get bored with motion controls in ur core games. the wii owners are stuck with em. ms was smart to not even bothering to add on motion controls. only thing core games will get is if devs think of some cool features to add to the game.
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="KillerWabbit23"]

This. Also RE5, MAG, and heavy rain. And SOCOM 4... all built in or as a part of a free patch.

Kinect?

Ummm yeah, nothing.

lbjkurono23

wouldn't it just be better to play those games with a controller?

i'm just saying, if you're going to make games for move and kinect at least make games that are supposed to play to it's controller strenghts

Resident evil 4 with motion controls was a lot better than the GC/ps2 version.

yeah but didn't IGN say that you needed the PS3 controller on one hand and the move controller on another? to play RE5 with move?

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#22 monson21502
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[QUOTE="campzor"]they are both horrible...but at least move is going to be compatible with core games (killzone 3 for example)Kleeyook
I just hope that it'll be responsive. If not then it failed. But what about RE5 Gold Edition!? I believe it already come out!

yeah its already out. ign hated it..... cows keep praising it as a killer ap for move
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#23 campzor
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[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

wouldn't it just be better to play those games with a controller?

i'm just saying, if you're going to make games for move and kinect at least make games that are supposed to play to it's controller strenghts

ohthemanatee

Resident evil 4 with motion controls was a lot better than the GC/ps2 version.

yeah but didn't IGN say that you needed the PS3 controller on one hand and the move controller on another? to play RE5 with move?

isnt that what the nav controllers for?
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#24 ohthemanatee
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"] Resident evil 4 with motion controls was a lot better than the GC/ps2 version.campzor

yeah but didn't IGN say that you needed the PS3 controller on one hand and the move controller on another? to play RE5 with move?

isnt that what the nav controllers for?

dunno, it was an old article, so they could have improved on it

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#25 lbjkurono23
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[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

wouldn't it just be better to play those games with a controller?

i'm just saying, if you're going to make games for move and kinect at least make games that are supposed to play to it's controller strenghts

ohthemanatee

Resident evil 4 with motion controls was a lot better than the GC/ps2 version.

yeah but didn't IGN say that you needed the PS3 controller on one hand and the move controller on another?

If you don't have the move navigation controller.

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[QUOTE="Kleeyook"][QUOTE="campzor"]they are both horrible...but at least move is going to be compatible with core games (killzone 3 for example)monson21502
I just hope that it'll be responsive. If not then it failed. But what about RE5 Gold Edition!? I believe it already come out!

yeah its already out. ign hated it..... cows keep praising it as a killer ap for move

link?

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#27 lbjkurono23
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[QUOTE="monson21502"][QUOTE="Kleeyook"] I just hope that it'll be responsive. If not then it failed. But what about RE5 Gold Edition!? I believe it already come out!ohthemanatee

yeah its already out. ign hated it..... cows keep praising it as a killer ap for move

link?

Couldn't find anything on ign, but here are some reviews ;)

9/10

9/10

8/10

yeah horrible 8)

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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="monson21502"] yeah its already out. ign hated it..... cows keep praising it as a killer ap for movelbjkurono23

link?

Couldn't find anything on ign, but here are some reviews ;)

9/10

9/10

8/10

yeah horrible 8)

yeah, that's what I thought as well

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Both deserve to fail.racing1750
Yes, yes they do. [QUOTE="aaronmullan"] Agreed. Motion controls aren't good for console gaming.

You, however, are wrong. Nintendo makes it work. Nintendo makes it good.
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wow wiiHD has failed.
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#31 TheXFiles88
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i just looked at the launch titles for kinect and its just awful. i dont se how they expect kinect to outsell the ipads launch with crap games like that

oreojones18

Really? This single game alone will destroy the entire Move launch titles:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sE9bT2eFNI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUu_puk511k&feature=related

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Dance Central is AAA. 8)

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Im looking forward to kinect because it looks like a cool piece of tech that has some possibilitys for the future.Also i enjoy playing the casual games with family and friends so the launch line up isnt exactly dissapointing to me unless they turn out to be total unresponsive garbage.If kinect works the way they say it does im sure ill have some fun with it.

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#34 DethSkematik
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sw opinion about move and kinect is about a relevant as my opinion on feminine hygene products. if it's not made for you why bother?

Riverwolf007
love that quote! :D Anyway, I have to agree with this guy...other than seeing how either turn out in the end (just out of curiosity) it doesn't matter which one is better or worse because I've got no interest in either.
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Im looking forward to kinect because it looks like a cool piece of tech that has some possibilitys for the future.Also i enjoy playing the casual games with family and friends so the launch line up isnt exactly dissapointing to me unless they turn out to be total unresponsive garbage.If kinect works the way they say it does im sure ill have some fun with it.

loudharley

Kinect Sports is the right choice for party games. TheBeach Volleyball game looks super fun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H2eFy8XXtY

http://en.akihabaranews.com/61755/gaming/tgs-2010-kinect-sports-and-kinect-joy-ride-on-xbox360

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#36 coasterguy65
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How is Kinect worse...both systems have some of the suckiest games I've ever seen for a launch. At least both systems seem to have a good included game.

I will say I do expect Dance Central and that fitness game by Ubisoft to sell well once they come out. A fitness game where you don't have to hold a Wiimote, or a Wiimote+ball will go over well.

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[QUOTE="campzor"]they are both horrible...but at least move is going to be compatible with core games (killzone 3 for example)KillerWabbit23

This. Also RE5, MAG, and heavy rain. And SOCOM 4... all built in or as a part of a free patch.

Kinect?

Ummm yeah, nothing.

Project Draco and Steel Battalionseem pretty core Kinect titles.

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#38 campzor
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[QUOTE="KillerWabbit23"]

[QUOTE="campzor"]they are both horrible...but at least move is going to be compatible with core games (killzone 3 for example)-RPGamer-

This. Also RE5, MAG, and heavy rain. And SOCOM 4... all built in or as a part of a free patch.

Kinect?

Ummm yeah, nothing.

Project Draco and Steel Battalionseem pretty core Kinect titles.

u gathered project draco is a core title from a 30-40 second cgi trailer which shows absolutely no gameplay footage whatsoever?
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#39 SecretPolice
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All night Tiger fights FTW. :P

I would think we need reviews and trying Kinect games for ourselves before passing judgement.

We shall see.

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[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="KillerWabbit23"]

This. Also RE5, MAG, and heavy rain. And SOCOM 4... all built in or as a part of a free patch.

Kinect?

Ummm yeah, nothing.

campzor

Project Draco and Steel Battalionseem pretty core Kinect titles.

u gathered project draco is a core title from a 30-40 second cgi trailer which shows absolutely no gameplay footage whatsoever?

I guess the word "seem" was missed. I mean based on the pedigree I would say the same. It's obviously not pandering to the casuals at this point. :|

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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="monson21502"] yeah its already out. ign hated it..... cows keep praising it as a killer ap for movelbjkurono23

link?

Couldn't find anything on ign, but here are some reviews ;)

9/10

9/10

8/10

yeah horrible 8)

http://www.ign.com/videos/2010/09/10/resident-evil-5-gold-edition-video-preview-move-controls-put-to-the-test

took me 2 seconds to search for this on google...

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they are both horrible...but at least move is going to be compatible with core games (killzone 3 for example)campzor

Exept it shouldn't even be for core gamers.

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#43 markinthedark
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move is never going to be for core gamers... it will allow casual controls on core games. As we can see with killzone 3 where they add in auto lock on targeting for the move controller... it turns core games into casual games. Cows are kidding themselves thinking it will have hardcore games.

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#44 BrunoBRS
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it's not because one has awful launch titles that the other isn't just as bad.
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#45 JohnF111
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none will fail... Move did better than expected so not a flop... Sony like to stay loyal to a product longer into the next gen so Sony will continue to create good titles for Move, plus Move is only an accessory so titles don't HAVE to be Move compatible where as Kinect pretty much has to design it's games with Kinect in mind, MS are putting buckets of money into Kinect so it won't fail either but generally speaking i am not too hot for either but Move definitely has the upperhand if you ask me.
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#46 campzor
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[QUOTE="campzor"]they are both horrible...but at least move is going to be compatible with core games (killzone 3 for example)roflcopter317

Exept it shouldn't even be for core gamers.

its merely to promote the technology if they implement it in sonys heavy hitters. I for one dont care as i dont like casual stuff like this/kinect/touchscreens/3d
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The dance game will be it's killer app. Mark my words.
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#48 110million
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[QUOTE="racing1750"]Both deserve to fail.aaronmullan
Agreed. Motion controls aren't good for console gaming.

Yeah, Wii's best games don't make heavy obscure use of it either. I mean Metroid uses the pointer, but thats not motion controls.
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#49 110million
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The dance game will be it's killer app. Mark my words. Bread_or_Decide
Combining the 2 things I hate most in gaming. Motion and music games. :D
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#50 Half-Way
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kinect is getting a game by suda51, so it wins in my book