94 Days later: FIFA 15 still not cracked....

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#101  Edited By DEadliNE-Zero0
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@Ben-Buja: No, it won't:

Thank god for that.

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#102 Ben-Buja
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@deadline-zero0 said:

@Ben-Buja: No, it won't:

Thank god for that.

That's good to hear

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#103 True_Gamer_
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@bolkaxtd said:

@True_Gamer_: idk , but it there are problems with fifa cracks since fifa 10 (which splinter cell are u reffering to??)

last year there was a fifa14 crack from an anonymous chinese group..

its a game that sells 500k copies for pc anyway, and we can rule out coding issues cause every other origin game gets cracked instantly..

I can bet that FIFA is protected 10 times better than any game out there...

Heck EA pays millions of sterlings to UK Football Association to get exclusive rights (Same to german too)...

Oh and 46 days lol!

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#104 UnbiasedPoster
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@True_Gamer_ said:

Before the european illegal immigrants to the american continent (known as muricans) start shouting "bleh teh sokah!"...

I must inform you that FIFA is the No1 game in Europe that people buy ONLY FIFA and a console and NOTHING ELSE...

Each year FIFA hits millions of downloads though warez.

For a game of such magnitude to not be cracked for OVER a MONTH! Its a true testament that PC piracy isnt the monster that everyone thinks it to be.

Uh, what?

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#106 HalcyonScarlet
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TC, you still going to be updating this till the end of the gen, or will you start again with Fifa 16? :-)

@True_Gamer_ said:

@MirkoS77 said:

Christ.

Just buy it already.

Its about PC gaming finally beating piracy!!!

Oh and 45 days LOL!!! Victrious!!

Good news if it works out like that without detriment to the consumer.

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#107  Edited By RyviusARC
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@Ben-Buja said:

@faizanhd said:

The DRM they're using is damaging performance and stability. It's what's causing problems with Lords Of The Fallen.

I think that's still just speculation.

Fifa 15 doesn't seem to have any problems.

@topic: GTA V will use the same DRM on PC

Hopefully this won't screw up performance or cause any problems to legit customers. It can't be as bad as GTA IV *knocks on wood*

"Hi guys got some news for PC players.

Rockstar will use new DRM system in GTA 5 for PC. This system is Denuvo, which also used in FIFA 15 and Lords of the Fallen.

This System uses special code which changes every time so this DRM is still not hacked, and I think it wont be.

No more piracy on PC and only way you can play GTA 5 its Steam.

Got this info today. Also today Denuvo updated partners on their site. Rockstar now here too. So its confirmed."

I heard differently.

There was already a statement made that GTA 5 would not use Denuvo.

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#108 GarGx1
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Weird how some people seem to be insinuating that this is a victory against PC gamers, it's not. It's a nail in the box against software piracy, which is a good thing for everyone, as long as it doesn't affect legitimate end users.

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#109 cainetao11
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@Heil68 said:

EVERY game is cracked on PC.

I knew there was a reason my disc of Skyrim wouldn't read :)

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#110 invister
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"Hi guys got some news for PC players.

Rockstar will use new DRM system in GTA 5 for PC. This system is Denuvo, which also used in FIFA 15 and Lords of the Fallen.

This System uses special code which changes every time so this DRM is still not hacked, and I think it wont be.

No more piracy on PC and only way you can play GTA 5 its Steam.

Got this info today. Also today Denuvo updated partners on their site. Rockstar now here too. So its confirmed."

this is bad news because I don't prefer paying for games xD

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#111 True_Gamer_
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@UnbiasedPoster said:

@True_Gamer_ said:

Before the european illegal immigrants to the american continent (known as muricans) start shouting "bleh teh sokah!"...

I must inform you that FIFA is the No1 game in Europe that people buy ONLY FIFA and a console and NOTHING ELSE...

Each year FIFA hits millions of downloads though warez.

For a game of such magnitude to not be cracked for OVER a MONTH! Its a true testament that PC piracy isnt the monster that everyone thinks it to be.

Uh, what?

Lol you have no idea how many of the warez scene wait for fifa...

47 days

Soo close to 50 and marching towards a record of 2 months.

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#112 GhoX
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Keep a counter for "Lords of the Fallen" as well. That's the other game using Denuvo and not cracked. It's also less popular than FIFA 15.

Denuvo's code is supposedly constantly changing, so in theory Lords of the Fallen should take just as long to crack, even after FIFA 15 is cracked. It'll be interesting to see if the warez scene gains any acceleration to their cracking speed after FIFA 15, or if Denuvo will stand firm to its 40+ days protection.

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#113 True_Gamer_
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@GhoX said:

Keep a counter for "Lords of the Fallen" as well. That's the other game using Denuvo and not cracked. It's also less popular than FIFA 15.

Denuvo's code is supposedly constantly changing, so in theory Lords of the Fallen should take just as long to crack, even after FIFA 15 is cracked. It'll be interesting to see if the warez scene gains any acceleration to their cracking speed after FIFA 15, or if Denuvo will stand firm to its 40+ days protection.

Will start after FIFA is cracked (IF IT IS) !!

48 days! HAHHAHAH

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#114  Edited By Paolot
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it's just a matter of time.....denuvo engineers they are skilled team which they found a great solution.

BUT, as they knows how does it the code works, also the cracker knows it as well, there is no "magic" on this latest protection solution, crackers they'll never give up, it's just a matter of time.

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#115 GarGx1
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@paolot:

Normally it is just a matter of time but they may just move on from Fifa with all the big releases coming out. They'll only spend so much time on cracking one game when they have lots of easy targets to hit. Of course there will be some who will persevere for the glory and pride from being the one to break the coding.

I'm not 100% sure but I doubt the crackers make much money from hacking games and making cracks, most people who pirate games don't pay for their services, if they did they wouldn't download pirated versions. The money making from piracy comes from the market stalls selling the cracked disks and jail broken consoles.

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#116 True_Gamer_
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@GarGx1 said:

@paolot:

Normally it is just a matter of time but they may just move on from Fifa with all the big releases coming out. They'll only spend so much time on cracking one game when they have lots of easy targets to hit. Of course there will be some who will persevere for the glory and pride from being the one to break the coding.

I'm not 100% sure but I doubt the crackers make much money from hacking games and making cracks, most people who pirate games don't pay for their services, if they did they wouldn't download pirated versions. The money making from piracy comes from the market stalls selling the cracked disks and jail broken consoles.

I have no doubt that Nvidia/Intel and hardware corps in general might pay crackers....

Hardware CORPS are the only party FINANSIALLY benefitting from pc piracy...NONE can doubt that.

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#117  Edited By aroxx_ab
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Oh hackers have taste i see, they not even bother crack this shit :D

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#118 StormyJoe
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How about you buy the software instead of waiting for someone to crack it so you can steal it?

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#119 mikhail
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@True_Gamer_ said:

I have no doubt that Nvidia/Intel and hardware corps in general might pay crackers...

Uhh what? You just said you think it is true and isn't true in the same sentence.

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#120 True_Gamer_
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@StormyJoe said:

How about you buy the software instead of waiting for someone to crack it so you can steal it?

Equalizing peeping to rape...

Believe me you wouldnt like to live in such insane asylum legal system....

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#122  Edited By mikhail
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Everything gets cracked eventually. The only truly effective DRM is always-online stuff like Diablo 3 and we saw how well that worked out, the game STILL has problems with lag, disconnects, and busy servers.

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#123 invister
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crazy, crazy crazy days.. PES 2015 was cracked on the day of release. And here we are still waiting on fifa's crack.

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#124  Edited By stuff238
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That's awesome. I am glad the pirates are crying.

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#125 True_Gamer_
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@scottpsfan14 said:
@True_Gamer_ said:

@StormyJoe said:

How about you buy the software instead of waiting for someone to crack it so you can steal it?

Equalizing peeping to rape...

Believe me you wouldnt like to live in such insane asylum legal system....

Stop justifying it by comparing it to rape you weirdo. Piracy's bad mkay.

Ok youre walking on the street...

You see a girl walking in front of you sporting a god like butt that makes you cry...

You whistle and shout "Wow your ass is like an ONION!"

A policeman passes by arrests you and charges you with rape...

Youre sentenced to 30 years just because the judge can....

Guess what they do to rapists in prison....

Im not defending copyright infringement....Im defending your legal rights to be treated in a sane manner.

50 days people records are set....And records are breaking every single day!!!

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#126 MirkoS77
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At this point the DRM's done its job. The majority of all software sales happen within the first few weeks. Anyone who's holding out this long probably wouldn't have bought it anyway.

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#127 True_Gamer_
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@MirkoS77 said:

At this point the DRM's done its job. The majority of all software sales happen within the first few weeks. Anyone who's holding out this long probably wouldn't have bought it anyway.

51 days and we keep laughing!!!

VERY POWERFUL PROTECTION!!!

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#128 invister
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unbelievable stuff this is! My uncle in computer sciences used to tell me that someday the piracy was gonna end and now this could be just the beginning.

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#129 godzellax
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@True_Gamer_:

Please keep laughing while we are waiting here seems for nothing!!!!!!

I have three questions only for you:

1. Did you purchase the game ?

2. If not, Are you planning to purchase it ?

3. Do you play Fifa ?

I bet you completely don't play Fifa at all and you just doing this for fun False_Gamer

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#130 GhoX
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@mikhail: 40-50 days is very strong and will most certainly influence launch day sales, which also happens to be when most sales are made for titles with sufficient marketing (i.e. AAA titles).

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#131 KillzoneSnake
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Maybe they dont want to crack it because the king is back, pes15.

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#132  Edited By True_Gamer_
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@godzellax said:

@True_Gamer_:

Please keep laughing while we are waiting here seems for nothing!!!!!!

I have three questions only for you:

1. Did you purchase the game ?

2. If not, Are you planning to purchase it ?

3. Do you play Fifa ?

I bet you completely don't play Fifa at all and you just doing this for fun False_Gamer

No need to add anything....

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#133 deco_1020
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@invister: And my college teachers say to your uncle or you to stop smoking to mutch weed.

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#134 True_Gamer_
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52 Days and growing strong!!!

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#135  Edited By Ten_Pints
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Everything is hackable, all you need to do is tell the copy protection what it want's to hear, or you need to bypass it entirely by jumping to the main part of the code which is obviously harder here.

Also it has been claimed that DA:I uses the same copy protection, that should get the crackers interested.

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#136  Edited By DarthRamms
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@ten_pints said:

Everything is hackable, all you need to do is tell the copy protection what it want's to hear, or you need to bypass it entirely by jumping to the main part of the code which is obviously harder here.

Also it has been claimed that DA:I uses the same copy protection, that should get the crackers interested.

The codes changes frequently for this DRM

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#137  Edited By elessarGObonzo
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.................

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#138  Edited By elessarGObonzo
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@ps4hasnogames said:

@thehig1 said:

the game is much better on pc too

LOL hell no. The game is way more fun on consoles. I get drunk and play fifa with my friends on a couch with controllers. Its the only way to play. pc is shit.

are there still people out here this stupid? my PC is, as are many others, always connected to a 47" 3D 1080p television and a wireless 360 Gamepad for Windows. 3 clicks and my desktop is on the TV, with a couch in front of it, and a gamepad ready to go. also a 2nd Logitech gamepad for any friend wanting to participate.

@Yangire said:

I hear EA pays groups to not crack it for a set period of time, I'm not sure how true that is.

if they could contact these groups don't you think they'd intervene with them stealing all their games?

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#139 deco_1020
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I can only laugh at naive people thinking this is a factor at all.

A certain team managed to emulate the syncrosoft protection for steinbergs cubase. I think it was circa 2007, 2009 maybe? Turns out, besides the need for a proprietary usb dongle, as much as 25% of the program code was copy protection related. They still managed to do it, even having to deal with a hardware/software combination and people thinking it would be uncrackable.

As I see it it's more about how many groups and how much these groups are interested in cracking a certain program than it is about the quality of the protection.

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#140  Edited By True_Gamer_
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@deco_1020 said:

I can only laugh at naive people thinking this is a factor at all.

A certain team managed to emulate the syncrosoft protection for steinbergs cubase. I think it was circa 2007, 2009 maybe? Turns out, besides the need for a proprietary usb dongle, as much as 25% of the program code was copy protection related. They still managed to do it, even having to deal with a hardware/software combination and people thinking it would be uncrackable.

As I see it it's more about how many groups and how much these groups are interested in cracking a certain program than it is about the quality of the protection.

I doubt that No1 selling game on PC in EU over the course of the year doesnt attract cracking group attention :D

53 DAYS LETS DO IT PEOPLE !!! 60 Days only week away!!

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#141  Edited By mikhail
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@ten_pints said:

Also it has been claimed that DA:I uses the same copy protection, that should get the crackers interested.

It does; Inquisition uses Denuvo. EA is one of the main clients (if not THE main client) of Denuvo.

This protection definitely is not uncrackable as it was used in FIFA 14 and that was cracked after 46 days or something. Now that a big game is using it, I suspect the crack for Inquisition will be coming much sooner than that.

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#143 elessarGObonzo
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have seen a lot of complaints and freak outs about Denuvo being on every game that's coming out. why is it scaring everyone? unless you're a pirate it shouldn't matter. it's not like SecuRom and it shouldn't affect performance.

Bioware DA: Inquisition forums had plenty of threads with people crying about canceling their preorders and returning the game unopened because someone mentioned Denuvo. there was a moderator post about any Origin based games not including it because their game launcher has to be online to run so they don't need it.

...there are Origin and Uplay emulators out there that the hackers manipulate though

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#144  Edited By DarthRamms
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@mikhail said:

@ten_pints said:

Also it has been claimed that DA:I uses the same copy protection, that should get the crackers interested.

This protection definitely is not uncrackable as it was used in FIFA 14 and that was cracked after 46 days or something. Now that a big game is using it, I suspect the crack for Inquisition will be coming much sooner than that.

The recent Denuvo DRM in newer games could be a different version than what was used in FIFA 14. They can easily make improvements to make it much harder to crack that's probably why FIFA 15 is lasting longer and its already a big game.

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#145 True_Gamer_
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@DarthRamms said:

@mikhail said:

@ten_pints said:

Also it has been claimed that DA:I uses the same copy protection, that should get the crackers interested.

This protection definitely is not uncrackable as it was used in FIFA 14 and that was cracked after 46 days or something. Now that a big game is using it, I suspect the crack for Inquisition will be coming much sooner than that.

The recent Denuvo DRM in newer games could be a different version than what was used in FIFA 14. They can easily make improvements to make it much harder to crack that's probably why FIFA 15 is lasting longer and its already a big game.

It is obvious that GTA V will have this protection....

I doubt R* will lets this go...

54 days LOL!

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#146  Edited By deco_1020
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lol, now i seen who made denuvo, need to talk to my hakers friend to see if this opens backdoors :D

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#147 lightleggy
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@LustForSoul said:

Hey guys, let's just ignore the fact you need a PC before you get the 360 and ps3 versions illegally. PC piracy is very much rampant, it doesn't matter what platform it is for. We all know it's just a matter of time before the PC version is cracked as well.

lmao, 'mericans and their "the entire world rolls the way 'merica rolls" mindset. Guess what? In pretty much EVERY country outside of 'merica you got stores in every corner which sells pirated discs, nobody needs a PC, most people in my country don't even a PC, let alone a fast internet connection to be downloading games, they just buy a console and buy the pirated games from stores which only do this. Literally the biggest video game retailers in the country do this, they even sell bundles of a hacked console with 1 original game and 10 pirated.

That's why I'm an avid believer that console piracy is actually bigger than PC piracy, ignorant americans think that a single torrent equals to a single pirated copy, but knowing that there are thousands of stores which sell pirated games, then you also know that a single xbox game torrent can be equal to over 100 pirated copies.

Buying the PC pirated games on disc is not popular here btw, since those who have PCs to run them are usually smart enough to download the games themselves.

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#148  Edited By lightleggy
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@thehig1 said:
@ps4hasnogames said:
@thehig1 said:

the game is much better on pc too

LOL hell no. The game is way more fun on consoles. I get drunk and play fifa with my friends on a couch with controllers. Its the only way to play. pc is shit.

I play Fifa o Couch with Controller too, and can pick between X1,360 or even a Ds4 controller, but my single player career mode is not broken because its been fixed with the "BetterCareerMod"

So Players don't retire at 29 on my game like in the default, you don't get shit loads of crazy transfers, other teams have smarter manager AI si they actually sign players they need etc.

PC version of Fifa is objectively better.

There are mods for the fifa pc version? Damn! I need to get it on PC then...seriously it's horrible on consoles, career mode at least. Playing a pro career on bayern munich and my manager decided ribery, robben and my pro (striker-finisher) were not enough for the offensive and he signed Cavani, Suarez, Cazorla and the news thing says he is aiming for dimaria AND BALE.

I'M NOT EVEN KIDDING, HE BOUGHT 3 OF THE BIGGEST FORWARD PLAYERS AND WANTS TO BUY 2 MORE. It's not only that the formation is scrambled as **** and that my pro barely gets to play any bundes games (Guess what? manager doesn't think my 72 pro is better than Cavani and Suarez) but the other good teams are destroyed because the transfers got so retarded...

Fifa... eww.. thats casual noob game like COD. Also PC damn.. the competition is on consoles not PC. I play PES (15 finally beast), the sales are nearly all on playstation and if you look at tourneys, they are done on consoles of course.

Thats actually funny because PES is the casual football game.

It actually takes skill to score in FIFA, unlike in PES. And things like penalties are hard.

Why do you think that every match in PES, be it amateur or pro, ends with both teams over the 5 goals mark?

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#149 True_Gamer_
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lol, now i seen who made denuvo, need to talk to my hakers friend to see if this opens backdoors :D

I doubt that it will get cracked soon...

55 Days and counting people!!!

2 month record is near!!!

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#150  Edited By deco_1020
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@True_Gamer_: sorry to crack your shell but denuvo is not the cause of the game is not cracked, and here is why

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Listen, we all have our opinion on this, and that is cool. I don't get why there needs to be so much arguing. Here is the main thing I take from this, and at the very least, it should include all the proof that anybody needs.

http://www.twitch.tv/lotfgame/b/583496891 Now the second the movie loads, find 13 minutes in, and jump to there. Listen very carefully to what they say, and how they say it.

In my opinion, and that is all it is, it sounds like they are trying to downplay the DRM. However, the main thing to take away from that, is that the Lead Dev, not only admitted to there being a hidden DRM, he also admitted to it having a performance impact.

From there, let's look at what other facts we know. It's been a week and half, and the game hasn't been cracked yet. Regardless of what you see when you google it, as those are fake cracks, probably malware/viruses with 'LotF Crack' as click-bait. I know for a fact it hasn't been cracked yet.

So from there, we get other speculation, like this thread, as well as many others. We also get articles like this:

http://www.dsogaming.com/news/grand-theft-auto-v-may-use-denuvo-drm-fifa-15-lords-of-the-fallen-still-not-cracked/

I don't know if this 'Denuvo' or whatever it's called, is what's in this game, and I don't know how much of a performance hit the DRM that IS in this game actually causes. All that I know is, this game has yet to be cracked, the Dev's admitted that there is a second, Hidden DRM, and that it causes a performance hit. That is what we factually know right now. By itself this information is not much, but at the same time, and if you really think about it, it's kind of a lot.