5 years old PC (single video card) beats PS4

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#1 leandrro
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5 years old PC beats PS4

single video card, 5 years old PC (not crossfire or sli) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRIXGSKf1Vg
PS4 equivalent PC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su4KbcZ0-_g

stream processors 1600 vs 1152

teraflops 2,4 vs 1,84

 

 

its 2008, ps3 has less than 2 years released and yet a relatively simple PC could beat the PS4 to be released 5 years later

and its not a monster 3000 dollar PC

its a 550 dollar video card in a about 1200 dollars PC

(550 gpu, 200 cpu, 150 motherboard, 100 psu, 60 hdd, 15 dvdrw, 50 ram, 20 case, 15 kb&mouse)

 

 

 

why ps4 is HD7850?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-orbis-unmasked-what-to-expect-from-next-gen-console

 

4870x2 review (2008)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Radeon_R700_.28HD_4xxx.29_Series
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2008/09/03/sapphire-ati-radeon-hd-4870-x2/1

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#3 lostrib
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please no, this will not go well

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#4 mastershake575
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(thread about PC/Console hardware)

In b4 tormentos :lol:

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#5 leandrro
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before anyone say something stupid about console archtecture

im a nice guy and gonna help them skip embarasing themselves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abGW1bk1nmM&list=PLUA_CK7guz95TReNgOnWSQa8oZEviSvox

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E1rvJAMC78&list=PLUA_CK7guz95TReNgOnWSQa8oZEviSvox

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjcXKEc7MsE&list=PLUA_CK7guz95TReNgOnWSQa8oZEviSvox

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#6 legalize82
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and how many bottlenecks ? i bet u lost the count... and ure video said x2 next to gfx card
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#7 TheEroica  Moderator
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.... Does the 5 year old video card demand you pay extra fees for used games like the ps4 will? :P
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#8 jman1553
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5 years old PC beats PS4

single video card, 5 years old PC (not crossfire or sli) leandrro

But doesn't the "x2" signify there are two GPUs on the same card? Sure, it's not crossfire or SLI, but it's still two graphics cards.

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#9 leandrro
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what bottleneck?

the 8 jaguar core bottleneck?

introducing the super-ultra-slow Jaguar core
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6974/amd-kabini-review/3
8 jaguar cores = a 70 dollar amd quad core CPU or a dual core i3 CPU

this low power intel mobile CPU has 2 times the performance of a quad core jaguar CPU @1,5ghz
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-3317U+%40+1.70GHz
also equivalent to a quad core 3,3ghz cheap amd CPU
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Phenom+II+X4+850&id=359

 

its a real life 4870x2 videocard test in bf3, its not a imaginary "all i wish thing"

ps. in 2008 i bought a x360, in 2010 a ps3, in 2011 a wii, in 2012 a 300 dollar PC (best machine so far)

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#10 menes777
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In those 5 years you could easily upgrade for far less than what the PS4 will be hypothetically going for.

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#11 leandrro
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yes it is, i cheated, but still a simple build PC, 1 video card, no sli , no crossfire

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#12 KarateeeChop
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well that explains everything. step your game up sony. :(

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it doesn't have kaz behind it

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#14 legalize82
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what bottleneck?

the 8 jaguar core bottleneck?

introducing the super-ultra-slow Jaguar core
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6974/amd-kabini-review/3
8 jaguar cores = a 70 dollar amd quad core CPU or a dual core i3 CPU

this low power intel mobile CPU has 2 times the performance of a quad core jaguar CPU @1,5ghz
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-3317U+%40+1.70GHz
also equivalent to a quad core 3,3ghz cheap amd CPU
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Phenom+II+X4+850&id=359

 

its a real life 4870x2 videocard test in bf3, its not a imaginary "all i wish thing"

ps. in 2008 i bought a x360, in 2010 a ps3, in 2011 a wii, in 2012 a 300 dollar PC (best machine so far)

leandrro
u know sony has been tweaking the shit out of jaguar huh?
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#15 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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*sigh* The PC fanboys never seem to learn. Last I checked IBMs Deep Blue was way more powerful than the PS4 and that came out like 10 years ago. Gee...I guess everyone should go out and buy super computers then. Since that is what everyone secretly wants if only they were as smart as the PC fanboys.

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#16 leandrro
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i dont recomend nobody buying a 1200 dollar PC, its a waste

but it was possible for entusiasts back them

for us smart people a 500 dollar PC is more than enough

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#17 leandrro
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you said right, "the shit" about jaguar, its a tablet cpu, a real shame for me as a sony fan

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#18 legalize82
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i dont recomend nobody buying a 1200 dollar PC, its a waste

but it was possible for entusiasts back them

for us smart people a 500 dollar PC is more than enough

leandrro
no ure cheating..
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#19 leandrro
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i tried to build a deep blue for myself back in 2008, didnt end well, they said i would need 1,2 billion instead of the 1,2 thousand i had

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#20 legalize82
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you said right, "the shit" about jaguar, its a tablet cpu, a real shame for me as a sony fan

leandrro
a tablet cpu pushinb killzone sf call me impressed.. see if my tablet cando it...nopewhat a shame
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*sigh* The PC fanboys never seem to learn. Last I checked IBMs Deep Blue was way more powerful than the PS4 and that came out like 10 years ago. Gee...I guess everyone should go out and buy super computers then. Since that is what everyone secretly wants if only they were as smart as the PC fanboys.

ZIMdoom

 

Wrong on so many levels. Even the Cell on the Ps3 had as much processing power as the whole Deep Blue did. Throw in the GPU and CUDA into the mix means PS3 is several hundred times more powerful than Deep Blue. Shh peasant, play sum moar cod

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#22 leandrro
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if you fit a 7970m inside a brand new 2014 tablet it will, batery life will be 30 seconds LOL

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#23 call_of_duty_10
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Single card,but 2 GPUs
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[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

*sigh* The PC fanboys never seem to learn. Last I checked IBMs Deep Blue was way more powerful than the PS4 and that came out like 10 years ago. Gee...I guess everyone should go out and buy super computers then. Since that is what everyone secretly wants if only they were as smart as the PC fanboys.

ClassicRockFTW

 

Wrong on so many levels. Even the Cell on the Ps3 had as much processing power as the whole Deep Blue did. Throw in the GPU and CUDA into the mix means PS3 is several hundred times more powerful than Deep Blue. Shh peasant, play sum moar cod

The PS3's gpu was not cuda capable
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#25 leandrro
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its like a dumb PC noob get in a shop in 2008 with 1200 dollars and say, i want the best video card possible

the guy sells him a simple PC with a 550 dollar video card a 200 dollar cpu... with easy to assemble parts, no crossfire no complications and the noob gets a pc that beats the best next gen console 5 years later

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#26 mastershake575
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But doesn't the "x2" signify there are two GPUs on the same card? Sure, it's not crossfire or SLI, but it's still two graphics cards.

jman1553

Yeah its strange to define what exactly it is. Its crossfire in the sense that its two GPU's but its also classified as a single card since it only takes one slot and you can technically crossfire another 4870x2

Regardless this thread would of made more sense if the user had just said 4 year old PC (since the 5970 actually had Direct X 11 support and the amd X6 series wasn't that expensive)

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#27 timbers_WSU
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And not a shit was given.

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#28 lostrib
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it's like if a heewee alt actually got to a level to make a thread

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A 4870x2 does not support dx11 which puts it a huge capability disadvantage to the console GPUs, and won't last very long on PC as well since we are already starting to get dx11 only games (Crysis 3). It also is a dual GPU single card set up which will have tons of issues and poor driver support, especially after 5 years

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#30 StrongBlackVine
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Hermits are so desperate for console players to make PC their main platform.  Why I have no idea.

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#31 lostrib
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Hermits are so desperate for console players to make PC their main platform.  Why I have no idea.

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me either

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#32 lostrib
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A 4870x2 does not support dx11 which puts it a huge capability disadvantage to the console GPUs, and won't last very long on PC as well since we are already starting to get dx11 only games (Crysis 3). It also is a dual GPU single card set up which will have tons of issues and poor driver support, especially after 5 years

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i'm not even sure the 4xxx series is even really supported anymore

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#33 FPSfan1985
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i dont recomend nobody buying a 1200 dollar PC, its a waste

but it was possible for entusiasts back them

for us smart people a 500 dollar PC is more than enough

leandrro
If by smart you mean poor people I agree. 1200 will get you more than 500 fact.
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#34 Cyberdot
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Yeah. It does show how outdated the next-gen consoles are.

It also proves that consolites are wrong when they claimed that you need to upgrade the PC "every year". A gaming PC can continue without upgrading for at least 5 years.

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#35 FPSfan1985
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Yeah. It does show how outdated the next-gen consoles are.

It also proves that consolites are wrong when they claimed that you need to upgrade the PC "every year". A gaming PC can continue without upgrading for at least 5 years.

Cyberdot
Which is sad. I miss the days when devs actually tried to push technology.
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#36 consoletroll
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all you need to be on even footing with ps4 is a 150-200$ gpu.

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#37 Rocker6
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Such an useless thread... this won't end well, wait until a few crazy hermits, tormentos and Lowe0 show up, and you have yourself a mess...

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#38 call_of_duty_10
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Yeah. It does show how outdated the next-gen consoles are.

It also proves that consolites are wrong when they claimed that you need to upgrade the PC "every year". A gaming PC can continue without upgrading for at least 5 years.

Cyberdot
While I do not agree that you have to upgrade every year,THIS card definitely does not prove it.It cannot run any dx11 features,and you cannot even start crysis 3 if you have it.
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#39 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]

Yeah. It does show how outdated the next-gen consoles are.

It also proves that consolites are wrong when they claimed that you need to upgrade the PC "every year". A gaming PC can continue without upgrading for at least 5 years.

FPSfan1985

Which is sad. I miss the days when devs actually tried to push technology.

Consoles dictate the evolution of gaming because PC versions of multiplats can only go so far ahead.

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#40 Jipset
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well that explains everything. step your game up sony. :(

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#41 Heil68
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Good thing I have a gaming PC. PS4 is a go, locked and loaded, Better strap one on brah, it's gonna be a wild muther fvcking thrill ride. It will offer a barn bursting amount of world class, high scoring exclusives....awwww yeahhhh
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#42 consoleonlyLMAO
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it's like if a heewee alt actually got to a level to make a thread

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You think a cpu designed for tablets is more powerful than a desktop cpu, how dumb can you get? Tablet technology is decades behind desktop.
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#43 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

it's like if a heewee alt actually got to a level to make a thread

consoleonlyLMAO
You think a cpu designed for tablets is more powerful than a desktop cpu, how dumb can you get? Tablet technology is decades behind desktop.

He's back:lol:
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Yes i have ps3,360 and pc's i have built from 10 years old that outperform ps3 and 360 in any game with a modern graphics card. I think i would know better.
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#45 lostrib
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Yes i have ps3,360 and pc's i have built from 10 years old that outperform ps3 and 360 in any game with a modern graphics card. I think i would know better.consoleonlyLMAO

no you wouldn't. you probably don't even have a PC, poser

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

it's like if a heewee alt actually got to a level to make a thread

consoleonlyLMAO

You think a cpu designed for tablets is more powerful than a desktop cpu, how dumb can you get? Tablet technology is decades behind desktop.

 

>Implying that wasn't the point from the beginning 

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[QUOTE="consoleonlyLMAO"]Yes i have ps3,360 and pc's i have built from 10 years old that outperform ps3 and 360 in any game with a modern graphics card. I think i would know better.lostrib

no you wouldn't. you probably don't even have a PC, poser

*I only game on a console i dont own a 10 year old pc with a graphics card that's capable of gaming i know more than you!* That's how you sound and it's very dumb.
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#48 MrGeezer
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Yeah. It does show how outdated the next-gen consoles are.

It also proves that consolites are wrong when they claimed that you need to upgrade the PC "every year". A gaming PC can continue without upgrading for at least 5 years.

Cyberdot
That's all true, but we have to consider the reason for gaming on a PC. If one's reason for gaming on PC is "PC's have the best graphics", then things are a little bit different. Sure their PC won't need to be upgraded for years, but they'll have to upgrade a lot more often if they want their games to look as good as possible. Personally I'm fine playing PC games on lower settings (theoretically: my current PC is so old that it won't run $hit). I'm not a graphics whore. That's what allows me to be okay with using a PC for years without upgrading, but that also makes me okay with console graphics. Either way, I'm settling for less.
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Good thing I have a gaming PC. PS4 is a go, locked and loaded, Better strap one on brah, it's gonna be a wild muther fvcking thrill ride. It will offer a barn bursting amount of world class, high scoring exclusives....awwww yeahhhhHeil68
All we got so far that looks enticing is the new Infamous...I dunno if I'd count KZ4 after how stale 2 and 3 were lol. E3 will come. MS and Sony will have games.
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#50 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="consoleonlyLMAO"]Yes i have ps3,360 and pc's i have built from 10 years old that outperform ps3 and 360 in any game with a modern graphics card. I think i would know better.consoleonlyLMAO

no you wouldn't. you probably don't even have a PC, poser

*I only game on a console i dont own a 10 year old pc with a graphics card that's capable of gaming i know more than you!* That's how you sound and it's very dumb.

herp derp derp

that's how you sound, and it's very dumb