3DS Technical specs leak!!

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#1 fend_oblivion
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For the lazy, here's some of the info :P , "According to IGN's anonymous source, 3DS is powered by twin ARM11 CPUs clocked at a relatively meagre 266MHz, while overall system storage (sans SD card) is 1.5GB. Onboard RAM is 64MB, with 4MB of video memory. DMP's PICA-200 graphics chip is said to be running at a relatively lightweight 133MHz."

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#2 KevinButlerVP
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I think these sepcs were leaked a while ago, and people were disappointed
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I think these sepcs were leaked a while ago, and people were disappointedKevinButlerVP

"One very fast central processor would be preferable. I don't think all programmers have the ability to program two CPUs—most can only get about one-and-a-half times the speed you can get from one SH-2. I think that only 1 in 100 programmers are good enough to get this kind of speed [nearly double] out of the Saturn."

Yu Suzuki and countless complained about the Sega Saturn's two cpu design.

It baffles me why nintendo would do this. And the GPU is kind of weak.

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#4 fend_oblivion
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I think these sepcs were leaked a while ago, and people were disappointedKevinButlerVP

Oh... I never saw a thread on this.

Anyways, never mind :)

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I think these sepcs were leaked a while ago, and people were disappointedKevinButlerVP
Yeah They were pissed because they didn't get their 1080p graphics (over exaggeration ALERT), which is insane!

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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]I think these sepcs were leaked a while ago, and people were disappointedfend_oblivion

Oh... I never saw a thread on this.

Anyways, never mind :)

Then why did you make a thread on this.

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#8 fend_oblivion
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[QUOTE="fend_oblivion"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]I think these sepcs were leaked a while ago, and people were disappointeddavidkamayor

Oh... I never saw a thread on this.

Anyways, never mind :)

Then why did you make a thread on this.

Because I didn't see a thread on this...

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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]I think these sepcs were leaked a while ago, and people were disappointedfend_oblivion

Oh... I never saw a thread on this.

Anyways, never mind :)


How about this 152 page thread that was stickied not long ago.

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this and gibberish are the same to me. all i know is that games look good.
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#11 fend_oblivion
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I don't frequent SW like I used to so please, forgive me. I didn't know.

I'll contact the mods to delete this thread.

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Should've stuck with Tegra 2, but the graphics will still be amazing in 3D.

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[QUOTE="fend_oblivion"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]I think these sepcs were leaked a while ago, and people were disappointedDahaka-UK

Oh... I never saw a thread on this.

Anyways, never mind :)


How about this 152 page thread that was stickied not long ago.

10 posts per page?

Anyway, I, too am disappointed. But whatever, the results are still pretty decent.

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]this and gibberish are the same to me. all i know is that games look good.

That's what I always thought.
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#15 TheColbert
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For some reason people were expecting a portable Xbox 360 but it looks fine to me. Just look at the 3DS games. MGS and Resident Evil prove the point.
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For some reason people were expecting a portable Xbox 360 but it looks fine to me. Just look at the 3DS games. MGS and Resident Evil prove the point. TheColbert
Yeah it's pretty ridiculous some peoples expectations for a handheld console. 3DS graphics look amazing huge step up from the DS.
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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]I think these sepcs were leaked a while ago, and people were disappointeddavidkamayor

"One very fast central processor would be preferable. I don't think all programmers have the ability to program two CPUs—most can only get about one-and-a-half times the speed you can get from one SH-2. I think that only 1 in 100 programmers are good enough to get this kind of speed [nearly double] out of the Saturn."

Yu Suzuki and countless complained about the Sega Saturn's two cpu design.

It baffles me why nintendo would do this. And the GPU is kind of weak.

dude that was like ... 15 years ago.. 3D games were new so people could barely program for one 3D cpu at that time, which isnt the case, AT ALL now.... As the games clearly show.. the 2 CPU design is not an issue :I ....And the 2 CPUs is NOT why the Saturn was so godly difficult to program for, yeah for the time it was a contributing factor but sega did like everything you can possibly do wrong, wrong when designing hardware back then. Geometry was based on cubes not triangles, the parts didnt "work" together, they were all thrown in a melting pot hoping putting more crap in it last minute would make it more powerful.

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Pretty dissapointing considering it is weaker than most modern cellphones.

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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]I think these sepcs were leaked a while ago, and people were disappointeddavidkamayor

"One very fast central processor would be preferable. I don't think all programmers have the ability to program two CPUs-most can only get about one-and-a-half times the speed you can get from one SH-2. I think that only 1 in 100 programmers are good enough to get this kind of speed [nearly double] out of the Saturn."

Yu Suzuki and countless complained about the Sega Saturn's two cpu design.

It baffles me why nintendo would do this. And the GPU is kind of weak.

Putting multiple cores was a smart choice, we have much better tools for multicore programming now. However the GPU was a terrible decision, the Nvidia Tegra will fly circles around the PICA 200.
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Pretty dissapointing considering it is weaker than most modern cellphones.

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How many of those cellphones run console quality games and in 3D as their main feature? Well they wouldn't really be phones at that rate.
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I think these sepcs were leaked a while ago, and people were disappointedKevinButlerVP
Of course the Sony fanboy would say it's disappointing, even though hype for the 3DS is clearly through the roof.
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#22 windsquid9000
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[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

Pretty dissapointing considering it is weaker than most modern cellphones.

tomarlyn
How many of those cellphones run console quality games and in 3D as their main feature? Well they wouldn't really be phones at that rate.

[By console quality, I assume you mean last gen consoles] The iPhone pwns the 3DS graphically and I'll take the retina display over 3D any day.
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

Pretty dissapointing considering it is weaker than most modern cellphones.

windsquid9000
How many of those cellphones run console quality games and in 3D as their main feature? Well they wouldn't really be phones at that rate.

[By console quality, I assume you mean last gen consoles] The iPhone pwns the 3DS graphically and I'll take the retina display over 3D any day.

Um the 3DS has buttons and a touch screen that actually works with a stylus. I'll take that + 3D + all the best games over gaming on my iPhone any day. Also I could never play a hardcore game on my iPhone... the bumper broke and now if I throw it out of frustration it'll break since it has no case :P.
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Nintendo is such a joke. It's quite obvious that 3DS is on par with PSP at best, and the PSP launched back in 2004 for $185 in Japan. Yet 7 years later the 3DS with similar spec will launch at $300. What an utter shameless rip-off! Nintendo's hubris knows no bound.
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#25 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="windsquid9000"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

Pretty dissapointing considering it is weaker than most modern cellphones.

How many of those cellphones run console quality games and in 3D as their main feature? Well they wouldn't really be phones at that rate.

[By console quality, I assume you mean last gen consoles] The iPhone pwns the 3DS graphically and I'll take the retina display over 3D any day.

Only If by last gen consoles you mean much better than the PS2, RE Revelations looks better than most Wii games too. But how much of the iPhone's specs are dedicated to gaming? And how long does the battery last during one of these 'better than 3DS graphics' games (I've never seen one)?.
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[QUOTE="windsquid9000"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"] How many of those cellphones run console quality games and in 3D as their main feature? Well they wouldn't really be phones at that rate.oldkingallant
[By console quality, I assume you mean last gen consoles] The iPhone pwns the 3DS graphically and I'll take the retina display over 3D any day.

Um the 3DS has buttons and a touch screen that actually works with a stylus. I'll take that + 3D + all the best games over gaming on my iPhone any day. Also I could never play a hardcore game on my iPhone... the bumper broke and now if I throw it out of frustration it'll break since it has no case :P.

Fair enough. Enjoy your 3D jaggies/blurry textures, unreliable buttons, and fingerprint-free single touch screen :P

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Nintendo is such a joke. It's quite obvious that 3DS is on par with PSP at best, and the PSP launched back in 2004 for $185 in Japan. Yet 7 years later the 3DS with similar spec will launch at $300. What an utter shameless rip-off! Nintendo's hubris knows no bound.runbleduck

It isnt at all. Its clearly more powerful than the psp.. MGS3 looks alot better than peace walker, and that came out 6 years after the psp and the 3DS isnt even out yet. I think everyone is forgetting how much psp graphics improved over time. Compare launch PSP games with launch 3DS games.. Not even a competition

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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

Pretty dissapointing considering it is weaker than most modern cellphones.

windsquid9000
How many of those cellphones run console quality games and in 3D as their main feature? Well they wouldn't really be phones at that rate.

[By console quality, I assume you mean last gen consoles] The iPhone pwns the 3DS graphically and I'll take the retina display over 3D any day.

The only game for iphone I've seen that truely might exceed 3DS graphics is that tech demo. No clue what it's called but thats about it.
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Nintendo is such a joke. It's quite obvious that 3DS is on par with PSP at best, and the PSP launched back in 2004 for $185 in Japan. Yet 7 years later the 3DS with similar spec will launch at $300. What an utter shameless rip-off! Nintendo's hubris knows no bound.runbleduck
Not sure if serious...again.
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[QUOTE="oldkingallant"][QUOTE="windsquid9000"] [By console quality, I assume you mean last gen consoles] The iPhone pwns the 3DS graphically and I'll take the retina display over 3D any day.windsquid9000

Um the 3DS has buttons and a touch screen that actually works with a stylus. I'll take that + 3D + all the best games over gaming on my iPhone any day. Also I could never play a hardcore game on my iPhone... the bumper broke and now if I throw it out of frustration it'll break since it has no case :P.

Fair enough. Enjoy your 3D jaggies/blurry textures, unreliable buttons, and fingerprint-free single touch screen :P

but if the iPhone is just one big screen, wouldn't that make it a single touch screen either? :P
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Only If by last gen consoles you mean much better than the PS2, RE Revelations looks better than most Wii games too.But how much of the iPhone's specs are dedicated to gaming?And how long does the battery last during one of these 'better than 3DS graphics' games (I've never seen one)?.tomarlyn

Last gen quality everything except good shaders and normal mapping.

Does it matter? It's still A LOT more powerful than the 3DS

*coughthreehourscough*

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I would take a ban bet with anyone who is crazy enough to think the 3DS will cost $300. You're crazy if you think they are gonna do a 1 - 100 dolllar to yen conversion. Not a chance in hell.

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Nintendo is such a joke. It's quite obvious that 3DS is on par with PSP at best, and the PSP launched back in 2004 for $185 in Japan. Yet 7 years later the 3DS with similar spec will launch at $300. What an utter shameless rip-off! Nintendo's hubris knows no bound.runbleduck

I have a PSP, I reallylike my PSP

There is nothing close to this running on it:

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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]I think these sepcs were leaked a while ago, and people were disappointeddavidkamayor

"One very fast central processor would be preferable. I don't think all programmers have the ability to program two CPUs-most can only get about one-and-a-half times the speed you can get from one SH-2. I think that only 1 in 100 programmers are good enough to get this kind of speed [nearly double] out of the Saturn."

Yu Suzuki and countless complained about the Sega Saturn's two cpu design.

It baffles me why nintendo would do this. And the GPU is kind of weak.

wait wait wait...your pulling up programming talk and discussion from the Sega Saturn generation when there were no dual cpu consumer pcs? Programming talk from the Saturn generation does not apply to this generation in anyway shape or form...PC's today dual even Quad core is standard, ps3 has multiple process capable units on it, there are handheld items like phones and such with dual cpus.... So programming has caught up easily with what was being talked about... Multiple cpu programming is pretty much a requirement in this day and age.
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]Only If by last gen consoles you mean much better than the PS2, RE Revelations looks better than most Wii games too.But how much of the iPhone's specs are dedicated to gaming?And how long does the battery last during one of these 'better than 3DS graphics' games (I've never seen one)?.windsquid9000

Last gen quality everything except good shaders and normal mapping.

Does it matter? It's still A LOT more powerful than the 3DS

*coughthreehourscough*

RE Revelations doesn't have good shaders or mapping bwhaaa ? Yes it matters, this about gaming not being a phone at the same time, so iPhone's true gaming specs are gimped by comparison in that case only 3? :P
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[QUOTE="runbleduck"]Nintendo is such a joke. It's quite obvious that 3DS is on par with PSP at best, and the PSP launched back in 2004 for $185 in Japan. Yet 7 years later the 3DS with similar spec will launch at $300. What an utter shameless rip-off! Nintendo's hubris knows no bound.tomarlyn

I have a PSP, I reallylike my PSP

There is nothing close to this running on it:

The 3rd Birth Day

God of War: Ghost of Sparta

Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker

Not too shabby :P

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RE Revelations doesn't have good shaders or mapping bwhaaa ?

No, I'm saying it has good shaders and normal mapping. Everything else is last gen.

Yes it matters, this about gaming not being a phone at the same time, so iPhone's true gaming specs are gimped by comparison in that case

Yet it still outperforms the 3DS.

only 3? :P

So thin...

tomarlyn

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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

[QUOTE="runbleduck"]Nintendo is such a joke. It's quite obvious that 3DS is on par with PSP at best, and the PSP launched back in 2004 for $185 in Japan. Yet 7 years later the 3DS with similar spec will launch at $300. What an utter shameless rip-off! Nintendo's hubris knows no bound.windsquid9000

I have a PSP, I reallylike my PSP

There is nothing close to this running on it:

The 3rd Birth Day

God of War: Ghost of Sparta

Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker

Not too shabby :P

Not even close lol. For PSP hardware those are very pretty games but they actually don't compare to RE:R

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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

Pretty dissapointing considering it is weaker than most modern cellphones.

windsquid9000

How many of those cellphones run console quality games and in 3D as their main feature? Well they wouldn't really be phones at that rate.

[By console quality, I assume you mean last gen consoles] The iPhone pwns the 3DS graphically and I'll take the retina display over 3D any day.

Jaggies are completely negated by the 3D effect (they're automatically smoothed out when your vision system combines the two images). And yeah, whilst the iPhone is more powerful than the 3DS, the iPhone is also $800, has acrap battery life, and the games still look terrible thanks to the bottleneck of all the 2nd gen iPod Touch's and iPhone 3G's out there. Let's not forget howterribly genres such as FPSs have worked so far.

Also, to everyone out there, you can't compare 3DS launch games to PSP games near the end of its life.

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My smartphone has better hardware.
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#41 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

[QUOTE="runbleduck"]Nintendo is such a joke. It's quite obvious that 3DS is on par with PSP at best, and the PSP launched back in 2004 for $185 in Japan. Yet 7 years later the 3DS with similar spec will launch at $300. What an utter shameless rip-off! Nintendo's hubris knows no bound.windsquid9000

I have a PSP, I reallylike my PSP

There is nothing close to this running on it:

The 3rd Birth Day

God of War: Ghost of Sparta

Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker

Not too shabby :P

I'm getting the 3rd birthday, but the actual gameplay footage in their is barely PS2 quality, awful textures

GOW: GoS, does look a beast but its not 3D

Peace Walker is vastly inferior to MGS3DS on all fronts

Hazza

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#42 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]RE Revelations doesn't have good shaders or mapping bwhaaa ?

No, I'm saying it has good shaders and normal mapping. Everything else is last gen.

Yes it matters, this about gaming not being a phone at the same time, so iPhone's true gaming specs are gimped by comparison in that case

Yet it still outperforms the 3DS.

only 3? :P

So thin...

Can I pweeez see one of these 3DS killing iPhone apps.... err games? :)
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Although saying that I'll be back tomorrow for more fun and frolics, sorry, its 6am in sweden. Yes I've been up that long :(
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#44 windsquid9000
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[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

I have a PSP, I reallylike my PSP

There is nothing close to this running on it:

tomarlyn

The 3rd Birth Day

God of War: Ghost of Sparta

Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker

Not too shabby :P

I'm getting the 3rd birthday, but the actual gameplay footage in there is barely PS2 quality, awful textures

GOW: GoS, does look a beast but its not 3D

Peace Walker is vastly inferior to MGS3DS on all fronts

Hazza

1. While still not as good as MGS3, Snakes character model in Peace Walker looks notably better than that

2. PSP 2000/Go's screen is gorgeous. I can live with it not being 3D.

3. Even though they're not as good, they still hold up surprisingly well

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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]The 3rd Birth Day

God of War: Ghost of Sparta

Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker

Not too shabby :P

windsquid9000

I'm getting the 3rd birthday, but the actual gameplay footage in there is barely PS2 quality, awful textures

GOW: GoS, does look a beast but its not 3D

Peace Walker is vastly inferior to MGS3DS on all fronts

Hazza

1. While still not as good as MGS3, Snakes character model in Peace Walker looks notably better than that

I really can't see how you can say that. It looks more or less on par. The hardware specs speak for themselves anyway, clearly better than the PSPs hardware. The games are only going to look much better eventually. RE 3D destroys anything on the PSP hands down.

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#46 ChubbyGuy40
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Direct from GS' own screenshots. Looks like a lower-res version of MGS3's snake on PS3.

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#47 mariokart64fan
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um psp really you just said psp looks better you must be joking ,,

because psp doesnt even display 3d and lets talk battery life and games line up

psp hardly has any worth while games for being out 5 -6 yrs

the ds kills it

and the 3ds will be the first ever 3d glases less handheld

no less have a metal stylus that is retractable

and iphone is called an i phone for a reason ------it makes phone calls thats its main use

it will never be a ds nor will it even bea psp which is -dedicated to gaming first

it will never sell 150 million units world wide and it wont ever be tracked on a sales chart!

another thing ive seen iphone graphics looks not even on par with the nintendo gamecube !

re4 for example , ugh i was disgusted by how low res they were ,

why do you think it only cost 10 bucks a game on a iphone

haha

because iphone is not really for gamers

and they know it

the 3ds specs they leaked could be wrong

as i dont believe them until nintendo tells you that then good luck

another thing does iphone have multiplayer functiosn like mariokart

ds has or psp has

does any one even use the service!

also dont you need to be online for iphone to [play /download games

i dont think they sell those in stores do they! think before you compare the 2

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#48 GreenGoblin2099
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Nintendo is such a joke. It's quite obvious that 3DS is on par with PSP at best, and the PSP launched back in 2004 for $185 in Japan. Yet 7 years later the 3DS with similar spec will launch at $300. What an utter shameless rip-off! Nintendo's hubris knows no bound.runbleduck

It's quite obvious that you don't know what you're talking about.

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#49 bowser3
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]The 3rd Birth Day

God of War: Ghost of Sparta

Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker

Not too shabby :P

windsquid9000

I'm getting the 3rd birthday, but the actual gameplay footage in there is barely PS2 quality, awful textures

GOW: GoS, does look a beast but its not 3D

Peace Walker is vastly inferior to MGS3DS on all fronts

Hazza

1. While still not as good as MGS3, Snakes character model in Peace Walker looks notably better than that

2. PSP 2000/Go's screen is gorgeous. I can live with it not being 3D.

3. Even though they're not as good, they still hold up surprisingly well

Actually the 3DS version of MGS3 look way better than the PS2 version.