2008 - Playstation 3 vs 360 [Surprising Results]

PS3 [Released]

Metal Gear Solid 4 - 10

Singstar 7.5
GT Prologue 7.5
Hot Shots Golf 7.5
BUZZ! Quiz TV 7.5
Disgaea 3 : AoJ 7.5
Siren: Bloodcurse 7.0

1xAAAA 6xA


PS3 - Upcoming


LittleBigPlanet
Resistance 2
Motorstorm Pacific Rift

Tekken 6
Socom : Confrontation
Naruto Ultimata Ninja Storm
Valkyria Chronicles


360 [Released]

Tales of Vesperia 8.5
Viva Pinata : TiP 8.5
Ninja Gaiden 8

Lost Oddysey 7.5

3xAA 1xA

360 - Upcoming


Gears of War 2
Fable 2
Banjo & Kazooie - Nuts&Bolts

Rules of Listing

I don't list -any- multiplat, time exclusive or otherwise. All titles are available in DISC format. Anything scored below 7 will not be listed. Upcoming titles are Bold/Italic if hyped AAA+, otherwise listed in normal font. ALL titles have been released in 2008, and are set to be released in 2008. Arcade/PSN titles not listed, unless full retail disc versions are available.

Results

I'm actually really surprised by the results. While the 360 has a good back catalogue, for 2008, it's actually done pretty bad in terms of exclusive titles. Most people have ignored the fact that it has actually only received a few exclusive titles this year, with one of their strongest titles recently scoring sub-A.

It's actually looking to be a very good year for Playstation 3 owners this time around, with potentially 4 AAA+ titles, and strong number of A~AA titles.

Overall Numbers [Includes expected/hyped scores]

360

4x A~AA
3x AAA+

PS3 -

10 x A~AA
4 x AAA+

Surprisingly, the PS3 has come out on top in both potential AAA, and A~AA. I've used the general consensus on all hyped scores, so of course, these results should be looked at with a grain of salt. However, if each game scores as people have hyped, then we will have a clear winner for 2008.

Edis - Spelling, format, removed MLB : The Show. Added more to Rules section. Edited in ToV, Viva Pinata scores. Removed Infnite Undiscovery, as scored sub-A.

PS3 destroys X360 in every category.xxThyLordxx

360 has a better online service a superior overall library and genre representation, so no.

PS3 still has a ways to go before destroying it in every category.

Reliability is the only category where the Ps3 destroys the 360 to be honest.

I wouldn't count the predictions...but yea, so far it's easily been the year of the PS3.loganh92

I wouldn't count the predictions...but yea, so far it's easily been the year of the PS3.loganh92

I think who wins the year will come down to the autumn through holiday perfomance of both.

[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]PS3 destroys X360 in every category.Tragic_Kingdom7

360 has a better online service a superior overall library and genre representation, so no.

PS3 still has a ways to go before destroying it in every category.

You counted the predictions :lol:fredyfish

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]PS3 destroys X360 in every category.jonnyt61

360 has a better online service a superior overall library and genre representation, so no.

PS3 still has a ways to go before destroying it in every category.

I thought xxThyLordxx was talking a general sense when he was saying that the PS3 destroys 360 in every category.

My apologies.

[QUOTE="fredyfish"]You counted the predictions :lol:jonnyt61

Yes but those games could flop, we have no idea what score they will get

[QUOTE="jonnyt61"][QUOTE="fredyfish"]You counted the predictions :lol:fredyfish

Yes but those games could flop, we have no idea what score they will get

Exactly.

I personally seeing GeOW getting an 9, Banjo a 6, Fable a 9, Resistance a 10, LBP an 8.5, SOCOM a 6, etc.

I think Banjo and SOCOM look like flops since Slant Six is making SOCOM and Rare hasn't been too great as of late. That doesn't mean they will come true, as I have never played any of the games (Obviously) so I wouldn't count them >_

[QUOTE="fredyfish"]

[QUOTE="jonnyt61"][QUOTE="fredyfish"]You counted the predictions :lol:loganh92

Yes but those games could flop, we have no idea what score they will get

Exactly.

I personally seeing GeOW getting an 9, Banjo a 6, Fable a 9, Resistance a 10, LBP an 8.5, SOCOM a 6, etc.

I think Banjo and SOCOM look like flops since Slant Six is making SOCOM and Rare hasn't been too great as of late. That doesn't mean they will come true, as I have never played any of the games (Obviously) so I wouldn't count them >_

Really? a ten

[QUOTE="jonnyt61"][QUOTE="fredyfish"]You counted the predictions :lol:fredyfish

Yes but those games could flop, we have no idea what score they will get

MLB 08:The Show isn't exclusiveopex07

MLB 08:The Show isn't exclusiveopex07

Since when?

I personally seeing GeOW getting an 9, Banjo a 6, Fable a 9, Resistance a 10, LBP an 8.5, SOCOM a 6, etc.loganh92

This is just my opinions, but your predictions seems so far-fetched to me.

This is how I see it (best case scenarios):

Gears of War 2-9.0

Resistance 2-9.0

Banjo-8.5

Fable 2-9.0/possibly a 9.5

Little Big Planet-9.5

Socom-7.5

I believe my predictions are pretty grounded. I have no idea what makes you think Resistance will get a 10.

[QUOTE="opex07"]MLB 08:The Show isn't exclusiveCrazyyyDylan

Since when?

I know its on 2 consoles and a handheld

[QUOTE="fredyfish"]

[QUOTE="jonnyt61"][QUOTE="fredyfish"]You counted the predictions :lol:loganh92

Yes but those games could flop, we have no idea what score they will get

Exactly.

I personally seeing GeOW getting an 9, Banjo a 6, Fable a 9, Resistance a 10, LBP an 8.5, SOCOM a 6, etc.

I think Banjo and SOCOM look like flops since Slant Six is making SOCOM and Rare hasn't been too great as of late. That doesn't mean they will come true, as I have never played any of the games (Obviously) so I wouldn't count them >_

Here Is my list

Banjo- 8.5

SOCOM-8.0

Fable-9.0

Gears 2- 9.5

LBP- 9.0

R2- 8.5

[QUOTE="CrazyyyDylan"]

[QUOTE="opex07"]MLB 08:The Show isn't exclusivefredyfish

Since when?

I know its on 2 consoles and a handheld

Ps2 doesn't count because its last genCrazyyyDylan

But exclusive means its only on one console so MLB the show 08 isnt a exclusive

[QUOTE="CrazyyyDylan"]Ps2 doesn't count because its last genfredyfish

But exclusive means its only on one console so MLB the show 08 isnt a exclusive

[QUOTE="loganh92"]I personally seeing GeOW getting an 9, Banjo a 6, Fable a 9, Resistance a 10, LBP an 8.5, SOCOM a 6, etc.Tragic_Kingdom7

This is just my opinions, but your predictions seems so far-fetched to me.

This is how I see it (best case scenarios):

Gears of War 2-9.0

Resistance 2-9.0

Banjo-8.5

Fable 2-9.0/possibly a 9.5

Little Big Planet-9.5

Socom-7.5

I believe my predictions are pretty grounded. I have no idea what makes you think Resistance will get a 10.

1st console FPS with 60+ players? Check.

8 Player Online Co-Op? Check.

GREAT Storyine? http://www.eurogamer.net/tv_video.php?playlist_id=13547 Check.

Traditional great FPS gameplay? Check.

Outstanding developer behind it all? Insomniac has NO GAMES that weren't at least A. Check.

[QUOTE="loganh92"]I personally seeing GeOW getting an 9, Banjo a 6, Fable a 9, Resistance a 10, LBP an 8.5, SOCOM a 6, etc.Tragic_Kingdom7

This is just my opinions, but your predictions seems so far-fetched to me.

This is how I see it (best case scenarios):

Gears of War 2-9.0

Resistance 2-9.0

Banjo-8.5

Fable 2-9.0/possibly a 9.5

Little Big Planet-9.5

Socom-7.5

I believe my predictions are pretty grounded. I have no idea what makes you think Resistance will get a 10.

Those are pretty generous numbers.

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="loganh92"]I personally seeing GeOW getting an 9, Banjo a 6, Fable a 9, Resistance a 10, LBP an 8.5, SOCOM a 6, etc.loganh92

This is just my opinions, but your predictions seems so far-fetched to me.

This is how I see it (best case scenarios):

Gears of War 2-9.0

Resistance 2-9.0

Banjo-8.5

Fable 2-9.0/possibly a 9.5

Little Big Planet-9.5

Socom-7.5

I believe my predictions are pretty grounded. I have no idea what makes you think Resistance will get a 10.

1st console FPS with 60+ players? Check.

8 Player Online Co-Op? Check.

GREAT Storyine? http://www.eurogamer.net/tv_video.php?playlist_id=13547 Check.

Traditional great FPS gameplay? Check.

Outstanding developer behind it all? Insomniac has NO GAMES that weren't at least A. Check.

Well, it's your opinion than Insomniac is an outstanding developer, but I think you have a simplistic view on how a game gets a 10. What you're describing is 8-9 material. The fact that you say "traditional" great FPS gameplay speaks volumes. Even if it is great, that doesn't make it groundbreaking.

I predicted GTAIV's perfect 10. The GTA franchise has been steadily working towards AAAA status since it went 3D. All it needed was extra polish to get the perfect score.

The MGS franchise (although I didn't expect the 10) is another franchise that has a history of greatness and needed polish and refinement to grab an AAAA.

Resistance is way too new and the first games score was too typical (there are lots of AA games) for Resistance 2 to shoot up to 10 all of a sudden. With past 10's, you either saw groundbreaking stuff in games or you get refinements to something that was all ready groundbreaking.

Resistance doesn't fit either criteria. It is not groundbreaking, the series is still new and cannot have been working toward AAAA status with each subsequent volume, etc. It is merely a bigger and improved Resistance 1. That does not add up to AAAA.

It will get AAA at best.

This thread seems to be geared by a ps3 fanboy. Where is halo wars? You left out Braid because it's not in disc format? You leave out Left 4 Dead because its also on the pc but include MLB the show? Seems like someone is just trying to weight things the ps3 way and they predict the ps3 exclusives coming are going to be better? How do you know that?piercetruth34

[QUOTE="loganh92"][QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="loganh92"]I personally seeing GeOW getting an 9, Banjo a 6, Fable a 9, Resistance a 10, LBP an 8.5, SOCOM a 6, etc.Tragic_Kingdom7

This is just my opinions, but your predictions seems so far-fetched to me.

This is how I see it (best case scenarios):

Gears of War 2-9.0

Resistance 2-9.0

Banjo-8.5

Fable 2-9.0/possibly a 9.5

Little Big Planet-9.5

Socom-7.5

I believe my predictions are pretty grounded. I have no idea what makes you think Resistance will get a 10.

1st console FPS with 60+ players? Check.

8 Player Online Co-Op? Check.

GREAT Storyine? http://www.eurogamer.net/tv_video.php?playlist_id=13547 Check.

Traditional great FPS gameplay? Check.

Outstanding developer behind it all? Insomniac has NO GAMES that weren't at least A. Check.

Well, it's your opinion than Insomniac is an outstanding developer, but I think you have a simplistic view on how a game gets a 10. What you're describing is 8-9 material. The fact that you say "traditional" great FPS gameplay speaks volumes. Even if it is great, that doesn't make it groundbreaking.

I predicted GTAIV's perfect 10. The GTA franchise has been steadily working towards AAAA status since it went 3D. All it needed was extra polish to get the perfect score.

The MGS franchise (although I didn't expect the 10) is another franchise that has a history of greatness and needed polish and refinement to grab an AAAA.

Resistance is way too new and the first games score was too typical (there are lots of AA games) for Resistance 2 to shoot up to 10 all of a sudden. With past 10's, you either saw groundbreaking stuff in games or you get refinements to something that was all ready groundbreaking.

Resistance doesn't fit either criteria. It is not groundbreaking, the series is still new and cannot have been working toward AAAA status with each subsequent volume, etc. It is merely a bigger and improved Resistance 1. That does not add up to AAAA.

It will get AAA at best.

I would agree, but the first one was a rushed launch title, this one had had over two years to perfect it.

I don't think GS will give it a perfect 10, however if the story is as good as the first one, and the MP is as good as they say it is...I think it will deserve a 10.

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="loganh92"]I personally seeing GeOW getting an 9, Banjo a 6, Fable a 9, Resistance a 10, LBP an 8.5, SOCOM a 6, etc.hakanakumono

This is just my opinions, but your predictions seems so far-fetched to me.

This is how I see it (best case scenarios):

Gears of War 2-9.0

Resistance 2-9.0

Banjo-8.5

Fable 2-9.0/possibly a 9.5

Little Big Planet-9.5

Socom-7.5

I believe my predictions are pretty grounded. I have no idea what makes you think Resistance will get a 10.

Those are pretty generous numbers.

Maybe so, but they are best case scenarios I still think they are far more probable than logan's numbers.

There is no way Resistance is getting AAAA. I wouldn't feel uncomfortable betting my life on that.

That being said, since Resistance 1 was high AA, I feel that some exciting features might be able to boost it up to AAA. I don't think I'll like the game, but I'm trying to look at this objectively.

The fist Gears was mid AAA and the next one seems to be more of the same, so I don't see Gears dropping to AA. I don't think the quality will drop like with Ninja Gaiden 2.

I don't see why Banjo can't get an 8.5. It looks like a very capable platformer.

If Fable 2 can do what the first one didn't, I'd say 9.5 is definitely possible.

Little Big Planet looks to do some very innovate things and it seems to do them well, so I don't think 9.5 is totally out of the question.

You forgot Culdcept Saga for the 360 , and just take MLB The Show off ..... and Siren probably shouldn't be in there until it comes on a disc in NA.

This year isn't even over and the cows are already calling winners :lol:Toriko42

Did you even READ the initial post?
It's based ENTIRELY on what current Fanboy groups are hyping their games at. This means, that everyone sees it this way. Like I said, if you want to argue the level of hype i've indicated, then do so.

But according to general consensus in terms of hype for upcoming titles, the PS3 is set to be on top.

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]This year isn't even over and the cows are already calling winners :lol:jonnyt61

Did you even READ the initial post?
It's based ENTIRELY on what current Fanboy groups are hyping their games at. This means, that everyone sees it this way. Like I said, if you want to argue the level of hype i've indicated, then do so.

But according to general consensus in terms of hype for upcoming titles, the PS3 is set to be on top.

okay so scores dont matter anymore, the hype level does

You forgot Culdcept Saga for the 360 , and just take MLB The Show off ..... and Siren probably shouldn't be in there until it comes on a disc in NA.

Nike_Air

I would agree, but the first one was a rushed launch title, this one had had over two years to perfect it.loganh92

But that's the case for lots of games, but you don't see many tens.

Basically, I just don't see a pretty typical but capable FPS preceding a generation-defining AAAA game in a very short time. It just seems like a weird scenario.

If that happens, I will ban myself from System Wars.

[QUOTE="jonnyt61"]

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]This year isn't even over and the cows are already calling winners :lol:fredyfish

Did you even READ the initial post?
It's based ENTIRELY on what current Fanboy groups are hyping their games at. This means, that everyone sees it this way. Like I said, if you want to argue the level of hype i've indicated, then do so.

But according to general consensus in terms of hype for upcoming titles, the PS3 is set to be on top.

okay so scores dont matter anymore, the hype level does

Scores do matter. There just are NO SCORES for UPCOMING games. Hence why we need to use HYPE and PREDICTED scores. I'm not sure why this is so difficult to grasp for you.

If fans of the console are hyping the titles to the scores I've used, that means they see the upcoming lineup as such. So talking from a middle ground, you'd take the hype that each console has, and use it as a way to show the current view on what the upcoming lineups have.

[QUOTE="loganh92"]I would agree, but the first one was a rushed launch title, this one had had over two years to perfect it.Tragic_Kingdom7

But that's the case for lots of games, but you don't see many tens.

Basically, I just don't see a pretty typical but capable FPS preceding a generation-defining AAAA game in a very short time. It just seems like a weird scenario.

If that happens, I will ban myself from System Wars.

Me too I will leave SW forever if R2 get a 10

[QUOTE="fredyfish"][QUOTE="jonnyt61"]

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]This year isn't even over and the cows are already calling winners :lol:jonnyt61

Did you even READ the initial post?
It's based ENTIRELY on what current Fanboy groups are hyping their games at. This means, that everyone sees it this way. Like I said, if you want to argue the level of hype i've indicated, then do so.

But according to general consensus in terms of hype for upcoming titles, the PS3 is set to be on top.

okay so scores dont matter anymore, the hype level does

Scores do matter. There just are NO SCORES for UPCOMING games. Hence why we need to use HYPE and PREDICTED scores. I'm not sure why this is so difficult to grasp for you.

If fans of the console are hyping the titles to the scores I've used, that means they see the upcoming lineup as such. So talking from a middle ground, you'd take the hype that each console has, and use it as a way to show the current view on what the upcoming lineups have.

man. if every fanboy hyped every game as AAAA then it would be the best system of all time.

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="loganh92"]I would agree, but the first one was a rushed launch title, this one had had over two years to perfect it.fredyfish

But that's the case for lots of games, but you don't see many tens.

Basically, I just don't see a pretty typical but capable FPS preceding a generation-defining AAAA game in a very short time. It just seems like a weird scenario.

If that happens, I will ban myself from System Wars.

Me too I will leave SW forever if R2 get a 10

It's sad that sequels to games with virtually no storyline can get AAA hype, yet one that has everything anybody could ask for in th FPS genre and nobody can believe it could get a 10.

Sigh, I guess stories don't matter anymore in an FPS game.

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

You forgot Culdcept Saga for the 360 , and just take MLB The Show off ..... and Siren probably shouldn't be in there until it comes on a disc in NA.

jonnyt61

MLB The Show doesn't count as an exclusive because it can be played on another system , just like Zelda TP , or the 360's shared PC games.

We don't predict the future regarding Siren based on "plans" , anything can happen ...... errrr not happen. No need to pad the list with these , just add in Siren later when (if) it does happen.

90% of those games no one cares about. Gears 2, Banjo, Fable 2, Braid, Left 4 dead compete and more than likely beat anything the ps3 has going this year.... You can't play those games on the ps3. Plus it has a huge library of games. So the ps3 released 5 mediocre exclusives. Who cares? Like I said it just seems like you are grasping at straws trying to spin things the ps3's way any way you can. Plus the 360 has Halo Wars, Socom and several other games coming early 2009.piercetruth34

[QUOTE="fredyfish"][QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="loganh92"]I would agree, but the first one was a rushed launch title, this one had had over two years to perfect it.loganh92

But that's the case for lots of games, but you don't see many tens.

Basically, I just don't see a pretty typical but capable FPS preceding a generation-defining AAAA game in a very short time. It just seems like a weird scenario.

If that happens, I will ban myself from System Wars.

Me too I will leave SW forever if R2 get a 10

It's sad that sequels to games with virtually no storyline can get AAA hype, yet one that has everything anybody could ask for in th FPS genre and nobody can believe it could get a 10.

Sigh, I guess stories don't matter anymore in an FPS game.

Stories never mattered that much in FPS games. They are far more important in RPG's. Actually, RPG is the only genre in which story is even absolutely neccesary.

Also, the quality of a story is so subjective most of the time.

[QUOTE="piercetruth34"]90% of those games no one cares about. Gears 2, Banjo, Fable 2, Braid, Left 4 dead compete and more than likely beat anything the ps3 has going this year.... You can't play those games on the ps3. Plus it has a huge library of games. So the ps3 released 5 mediocre exclusives. Who cares? Like I said it just seems like you are grasping at straws trying to spin things the ps3's way any way you can. Plus the 360 has Halo Wars, Socom and several other games coming early 2009.jonnyt61

No I'm not deluded. You are because I was talking about the games that scored in the 7's. I wasn't talking about Resistance 2, or LBP, or Motorstorm. They should be decent. But Gears 2, BAnjo and Fable should be just as good if not better. . Plus I was just saying you can't play LEft 4 dead and Braid on the ps3. Who's deluded? You are the one trying to spin this somehow like the ps3's lineup is somehow better, saying games don't count because they aren't "truly" exclusive. You can't play them on the ps3. Can you honestly tell me those games that scored in the 7's anyone cares about, compared the library that the 360 already has?

[QUOTE="jonnyt61"][QUOTE="fredyfish"]

okay so scores dont matter anymore, the hype level does

CaseyWegner

Scores do matter. There just are NO SCORES for UPCOMING games. Hence why we need to use HYPE and PREDICTED scores. I'm not sure why this is so difficult to grasp for you.

If fans of the console are hyping the titles to the scores I've used, that means they see the upcoming lineup as such. So talking from a middle ground, you'd take the hype that each console has, and use it as a way to show the current view on what the upcoming lineups have.

man. if every fanboy hyped every game as AAAA then it would be the best system of all time.

[QUOTE="jonnyt61"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

You forgot Culdcept Saga for the 360 , and just take MLB The Show off ..... and Siren probably shouldn't be in there until it comes on a disc in NA.

Nike_Air

MLB The Show doesn't count as an exclusive because it can be played on another system , just like Zelda TP , or the 360's shared PC games.

We don't predict the future regarding Siren based on "plans" , anything can happen ...... errrr not happen. No need to pad the list with these , just add in Siren later when (if) it does happen.

[QUOTE="loganh92"][QUOTE="fredyfish"][QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="loganh92"]I would agree, but the first one was a rushed launch title, this one had had over two years to perfect it.Tragic_Kingdom7

But that's the case for lots of games, but you don't see many tens.

Basically, I just don't see a pretty typical but capable FPS preceding a generation-defining AAAA game in a very short time. It just seems like a weird scenario.

If that happens, I will ban myself from System Wars.

Me too I will leave SW forever if R2 get a 10

It's sad that sequels to games with virtually no storyline can get AAA hype, yet one that has everything anybody could ask for in th FPS genre and nobody can believe it could get a 10.

Sigh, I guess stories don't matter anymore in an FPS game.

Stories never mattered that much in FPS games. They are far more important in RPG's. Actually, RPG is the only genre in which story is even absolutely neccesary.

Also, the quality of a story is so subjective most of the time.

Ehh, I guess I'm the only one that cares anymore. I think FPS games with storylines are excellent if done right (Halo was fantastic at the time, as was Half Life 2) and hold them in much higher regard than ones without such a storyline.

And that would be utterly ridiculous now, wouldn't it? Now, if all the predicted scores I've used were "beyond normal beleif" then I'd understand Lemmings point of contention. But that's not true now, is it?
jonnyt61

upcoming games should not be used at all because we really have zero idea how they will turn out.