Red Sox and their fans....

Boston can look at this trade by saying Manny is getting old and Bay is better for the future, but is it really necessary? Boston has won 2 championships in the past 4 years, and they have had years of consecutive sell outs at Fenway; in other words, all that should really matter in Boston is the spirit.

I can only imagine what the next home game is going to be like with all the booing. Sure David Ortiz and Beckett represent the franchise, but when you hear Red Sox, you think of Manny, so why did the Red Sox give up what really matters in Boston, the fun of playing?

Boston can look at this trade by saying Manny is getting old and Bay is better for the future, but is it really necessary? Boston has won 2 championships in the past 4 years, and they have had years of consecutive sell outs at Fenway; in other words, all that should really matter in Boston is the spirit.

I can only imagine what the next home game is going to be like with all the booing. Sure David Ortiz and Beckett represent the franchise, but when you hear Red Sox, you think of Manny, so why did the Red Sox give up what really matters in Boston, the fun of playing?

RyuHayabusaX

The Sox didn't give up... Manny did. They had to trade him because he was bringing the club house down and made it clear he didn't want to play for the Sox.

Actually when I hear Red Sox, I think of Ortiz. Different people I guess.manningbowl135

Yeah me too.

Bay's no spring chicken himself, he's 30. His numbers actually declined last year, and this year he's hitting 215. with RISP. Manny is still the best right handed batter in the game. Anyone trying to spin this trade is dellusional. dru26

As a one for one objective trade, clearly Manny outshines Bay drastically, theres no arguing about that. But do you know what its been like here? The team, the managment, the players, everyone was plagued by Manny these last few weeks. For every offensive plus he added, he hurt others ability to play or focus on winning. Bay can't replace him solely on an offensive level, but with Manny gone the team can start to focus on whats important again. Im not saying its a good trade per se, but its one that had to happen

^Lol oh here comes the Sox fans turning on Manny. "Oh he quit!" lol but before it was "Oh its just Manny being Manny!". Cute.Espurs117

Yeah now they will be thinking like the rest of us. :lol:

The Sox didn't give up... Manny did. They had to trade him because he was bringing the club house down and made it clear he didn't want to play for the Sox.

[QUOTE="manningbowl135"]Actually when I hear Red Sox, I think of Ortiz. Different people I guess.RoslindaleOne

Yeah me too.

Yup.

[QUOTE="Espurs117"]^Lol oh here comes the Sox fans turning on Manny. "Oh he quit!" lol but before it was "Oh its just Manny being Manny!". Cute.mrgab

Yeah now they will be thinking like the rest of us. :lol:

Boston can look at this trade by saying Manny is getting old and Bay is better for the future, but is it really necessary? Boston has won 2 championships in the past 4 years, and they have had years of consecutive sell outs at Fenway; in other words, all that should really matter in Boston is the spirit.

I can only imagine what the next home game is going to be like with all the booing. Sure David Ortiz and Beckett represent the franchise, but when you hear Red Sox, you think of Manny, so why did the Red Sox give up what really matters in Boston, the fun of playing?

RyuHayabusaX

There was a lot more that went down this time around than Manny just going into the green monster and getting lost for 5 minutes during a pitching change. Manny being Manny is something that everyone I think even the Red Sox organization hasn't really minded throughout the years. What really got to them this time, is his confrontations with team mates and the upper management, which was unprofessional if you ask me. The bottom line is he got mad and all pissy that the Red Sox would not give him a new contract worth big dollars, which in reality they didn't have to in the first place. They were already doling out $20 mil a year as is, so why give a 36 year old player who is clearly not what he use to be (He still is indeed a force, but no where near 03-04 material) A-Rod like money? Its just not wise and was not a good business decision if they did.

The bottom line is that he was becoming a distraction and they were fearing that he was not going to play to the fullest extent for the rest of the year and just complain that he is injured. It is what it is, I appreciate all the good stuff that he did here while he was in Boston and for all the laughs

[QUOTE="Espurs117"]^Lol oh here comes the Sox fans turning on Manny. "Oh he quit!" lol but before it was "Oh its just Manny being Manny!". Cute.mrgab

Yeah now they will be thinking like the rest of us. :lol:

If you only were here in Boston and knew what he did you would understand why a lot of people are upset with him. The guy complains he is injured during a huge series against the Yankees and sits out when clearly he wasn't injuried at all, hence why the Sox were going to fine him if he didn't play. I personally don't care that he stood at the play to watch a homerun or the fact that he didn't bomb down to first base (Considering half the league doesn't do it either if they know its going to be an out or a single). Some of that stuff is nit picky, but the actions that he did in fact show over the last two months is just unprofessional and disappointing.

Bay's no spring chicken himself, he's 30. His numbers actually declined last year, and this year he's hitting 215. with RISP. Manny is still the best right handed batter in the game. Anyone trying to spin this trade is dellusional. dru26

Bay had a lot of nagging injuries last year.

29 year olds aren't declining. 36 year olds are.

Bay's no spring chicken himself, he's 30. His numbers actually declined last year, and this year he's hitting 215. with RISP. Manny is still the best right handed batter in the game. Anyone trying to spin this trade is dellusional. dru26

I'd put Pujols and A-rod over him any day.

[QUOTE="dru26"]Bay's no spring chicken himself, he's 30. His numbers actually declined last year, and this year he's hitting 215. with RISP. Manny is still the best right handed batter in the game. Anyone trying to spin this trade is dellusional. whatever9992

Bay had a lot of nagging injuries last year.

29 year olds aren't declining. 36 year olds are.

[QUOTE="dru26"]Bay's no spring chicken himself, he's 30. His numbers actually declined last year, and this year he's hitting 215. with RISP. Manny is still the best right handed batter in the game. Anyone trying to spin this trade is dellusional. manningbowl135

I'd put Pujols and A-rod over him any day.

Manny has been so clutch for the red sox regular season, and most importantly he has always come up BIG in the playoffs. i'll take manny any day because he produces when it counts

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[QUOTE="dru26"]Bay's no spring chicken himself, he's 30. His numbers actually declined last year, and this year he's hitting 215. with RISP. Manny is still the best right handed batter in the game. Anyone trying to spin this trade is dellusional. andyboiii

I'd put Pujols and A-rod over him any day.

Manny has been so clutch for the red sox regular season, and most importantly he has always come up BIG in the playoffs. i'll take manny any day because he produces when it counts

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[QUOTE="dru26"]Bay's no spring chicken himself, he's 30. His numbers actually declined last year, and this year he's hitting 215. with RISP. Manny is still the best right handed batter in the game. Anyone trying to spin this trade is dellusional. UssjTrunks

I'd put Pujols and A-rod over him any day.

Manny has been so clutch for the red sox regular season, and most importantly he has always come up BIG in the playoffs. i'll take manny any day because he produces when it counts

keyword regular season. I'd rather have a guy who can produce in the regular season AS WELL as the playoffs