Pistons @ Celtics

Good game so far, I recorded it and am at half time.

Celtics look nasty, Rondo is looking like a beast.

Meh, looks like Detroit controlled their boring style tempo in the 2nd half. They're down by 5pts, the C's need come 3-pointers to pull this one off.

Edit: Tied game!

Wow. That was the worst called game in the 2nd half. The Celtics were getting raped and had like 90% of the fouls be no calls.

Pierce should have taken that to the rim that was a bad decision.

Lmao @ complaining about the refs, there were bad calls both ways, like the air fouling Garnett, or giving Ray Allen 3 points when his foot was on the line.

These are both great teams and while I am extremely happy we got the win, it's just a regular season game in December, no big deal.

Lmao @ complaining about the refs, there were bad calls both ways, like the air fouling Garnett, or giving Ray Allen 3 points when his foot was on the line.

These are both great teams and while I am extremely happy we got the win, it's just a regular season game in December, no big deal.

shooks20

The first half was called fine, the second half was horrible.

The Pistons shouldn't have won that game.

The Pistons shouldn't have won that game.

Just_Osmo

You realize the two examples I gave were late in the game when it was very close.....you sound very bitter

[QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]

The Pistons shouldn't have won that game.

shooks20

You realize the two examples I gave were late in the game when it was very close.....you sound very bitter

I'm not bitter just a little pissed at some of the calls. It was ana mazing game and the next one between the 2 will be amazing. For a team that had never played together before this season theyw ere pretty impressive. To bring the game down to the wire and almost having won it against the supposive best team in the east is impressive. Especially if youconsider they had the lead through 75% of the game by 5-10 points.

Despite the low score, that was a great game. Celtics fans better get used to this. You can't beat up on weak East teams forever.Gamer556

hahahaha, beat up on weak east teams yet we dominated the game through the first 3 quarters and missed winning the game because pierce missed the shot and tony allen fouled on the pistons shot with .1 seconds left.

To have a game that close when you are the veteren team and the Celtics have played together for 22 games prior to this one is pathetic.

Don't talk crap when you won by luck against a team you just tried to claim is weak.

The Celtics face a quality team, and of course, lose. You can't rack up 70 wins by beating only crap teams.

Hopefully they face the Lakers in the Finals so we can beat the Celtcs like we did in the 80s.

that was a good game

the celtics are doing exactly what they should be doing; beat up on weak teams and play a good competitive games against great teams, remember people this is still a work in progress, anyone who thinks the celtics cant beat a good team or anyone that thinks the celtics are unstoppable should check themselves

The Celtics face a quality team, and of course, lose. You can't rack up 70 wins by beating only crap teams.

Hopefully they face the Lakers in the Finals so we can beat the Celtcs like we did in the 80s.

AHUGECAT

Just liek you beat us liek on the 23rd when the lakers beat us. oh wait no that was a win for the celts.

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]Despite the low score, that was a great game. Celtics fans better get used to this. You can't beat up on weak East teams forever.Just_Osmo

hahahaha, beat up on weak east teams yet we dominated the game through the first 3 quarters and missed winning the game because pierce missed the shot and tony allen fouled on the pistons shot with .1 seconds left.

To have a game that close when you are the veteren team and the Celtics have played together for 22 games prior to this one is pathetic.

Don't talk crap when you won by luck against a team you just tried to claim is weak.

Dominated? Won by luck? Were you even watching the game? :| You obviously have such a bias for the Celtics that you're completely incapable of forming an objective opinion on the game.

The simple fact is that neither team dominated, and the Pistons did not win by luck. Whether you can come to grips with that is up to you...

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

The Celtics face a quality team, and of course, lose. You can't rack up 70 wins by beating only crap teams.

Hopefully they face the Lakers in the Finals so we can beat the Celtcs like we did in the 80s.

Just_Osmo

Just liek you beat us liek on the 23rd when the lakers beat us. oh wait no that was a win for the celts.

Lakers had a bad game.

[QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]Despite the low score, that was a great game. Celtics fans better get used to this. You can't beat up on weak East teams forever.Dutch_Mix

Dude dont even bother. Get use to this guy,

hahahaha, beat up on weak east teams yet we dominated the game through the first 3 quarters and missed winning the game because pierce missed the shot and tony allen fouled on the pistons shot with .1 seconds left.

To have a game that close when you are the veteren team and the Celtics have played together for 22 games prior to this one is pathetic.

Don't talk crap when you won by luck against a team you just tried to claim is weak.

Dominated? Won by luck? Were you even watching the game? :| You obviously have such a bias for the Celtics that you're completely incapable of forming an objective opinion on the game.

The simple fact is that neither team dominated, and the Pistons did not win by luck. Whether you can come to grips with that is up to you...

[QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]Despite the low score, that was a great game. Celtics fans better get used to this. You can't beat up on weak East teams forever.Dutch_Mix

hahahaha, beat up on weak east teams yet we dominated the game through the first 3 quarters and missed winning the game because pierce missed the shot and tony allen fouled on the pistons shot with .1 seconds left.

To have a game that close when you are the veteren team and the Celtics have played together for 22 games prior to this one is pathetic.

Don't talk crap when you won by luck against a team you just tried to claim is weak.

Dominated? Won by luck? Were you even watching the game? :| You obviously have such a bias for the Celtics that you're completely incapable of forming an objective opinion on the game.

The simple fact is that neither team dominated, and the Pistons did not win by luck. Whether you can come to grips with that is up to you...

The Celtics had the lead for the majority of the game. A lead that ranged from 2-10. They didnt give up the lead until mid 4th quarter if memory servers me.

..and they didnt win by luck? Pierce missing an easy 2 instead of going for the layup with 1.7 left on the clock and having tony allen give you an idiotic foul to win isnt luck? If you call that skill on the pistons part then wow.

I'm not impressed with the Celtics yet. They seem to lose against the elite teams. Cavaliers WITH James, Pistons and Magic when they were gelling.manningbowl135

How can you not be impressed with a team playing with a 20-3 record in their first year playign together?

[QUOTE="manningbowl135"]I'm not impressed with the Celtics yet. They seem to lose against the elite teams. Cavaliers WITH James, Pistons and Magic when they were gelling.Just_Osmo

[QUOTE="manningbowl135"]I'm not impressed with the Celtics yet. They seem to lose against the elite teams. Cavaliers WITH James, Pistons and Magic when they were gelling.Just_Osmo

How can you not be impressed with a team playing with a 20-3 record in their first year playign together?

I don't care what year they're playing together! Why would I? It's not like a young team that shows promise in first year and I'm impressed b/c they have a bright future. This team does not have a bright future. Their chances to win is now and with 3 superstars, losing 3 times against 3 elite teams (Magic when they were) is not good. They have to win this year. Noone will cut them a break b/c it's their first year playing together, unlike the blazers.

[QUOTE="Just_Osmo"][QUOTE="manningbowl135"]I'm not impressed with the Celtics yet. They seem to lose against the elite teams. Cavaliers WITH James, Pistons and Magic when they were gelling.bluezy

lol at that comparison.

[QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]

[QUOTE="manningbowl135"]I'm not impressed with the Celtics yet. They seem to lose against the elite teams. Cavaliers WITH James, Pistons and Magic when they were gelling.manningbowl135

How can you not be impressed with a team playing with a 20-3 record in their first year playign together?

I don't care what year they're playing together! Why would I? It's not like a young team that shows promise in first year and I'm impressed b/c they have a bright future. This team does not have a bright future. Their chances to win is now and with 3 superstars, losing 3 times against 3 elite teams (Magic when they were) is not good. They have to win this year. Noone will cut them a break b/c it's their first year playing together, unlike the blazers.

Everyone knows thatwhen a team has had a few years together they play 10x better because they know what the others are doing before they even do it.

No one really gave the Celtics much of a chance this year because they hadnt ever played together, but look at them right now they are wrecking bad teams and having very close games with the elites. Tonight should have been a win, but the last play didnt go their way. I still see them in the finals. Do I think they will win it? i don't know the west is still the elites.

[QUOTE="bluezy"][QUOTE="Just_Osmo"][QUOTE="manningbowl135"]I'm not impressed with the Celtics yet. They seem to lose against the elite teams. Cavaliers WITH James, Pistons and Magic when they were gelling.Just_Osmo

[QUOTE="Just_Osmo"][QUOTE="bluezy"][QUOTE="Just_Osmo"][QUOTE="manningbowl135"]I'm not impressed with the Celtics yet. They seem to lose against the elite teams. Cavaliers WITH James, Pistons and Magic when they were gelling.bluezy

Any NBA team can suck if the stars get injured.

[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"][QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]Despite the low score, that was a great game. Celtics fans better get used to this. You can't beat up on weak East teams forever.Just_Osmo

hahahaha, beat up on weak east teams yet we dominated the game through the first 3 quarters and missed winning the game because pierce missed the shot and tony allen fouled on the pistons shot with .1 seconds left.

To have a game that close when you are the veteren team and the Celtics have played together for 22 games prior to this one is pathetic.

Don't talk crap when you won by luck against a team you just tried to claim is weak.

Dominated? Won by luck? Were you even watching the game? :| You obviously have such a bias for the Celtics that you're completely incapable of forming an objective opinion on the game.

The simple fact is that neither team dominated, and the Pistons did not win by luck. Whether you can come to grips with that is up to you...

The Celtics had the lead for the majority of the game. A lead that ranged from 2-10. They didnt give up the lead until mid 4th quarter if memory servers me.

..and they didnt win by luck? Pierce missing an easy 2 instead of going for the layup with 1.7 left on the clock and having tony allen give you an idiotic foul to win isnt luck? If you call that skill on the pistons part then wow.

A 10 point lead in the second quarter and you have the audacity to say they dominated? :|

Again, did you even watch the game? Honestly, your claims that the Pistons won by luck (or lack of skill) is absurd and unfounded.

[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"][QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]Despite the low score, that was a great game. Celtics fans better get used to this. You can't beat up on weak East teams forever.Just_Osmo

hahahaha, beat up on weak east teams yet we dominated the game through the first 3 quarters and missed winning the game because pierce missed the shot and tony allen fouled on the pistons shot with .1 seconds left.

To have a game that close when you are the veteren team and the Celtics have played together for 22 games prior to this one is pathetic.

Don't talk crap when you won by luck against a team you just tried to claim is weak.

Dominated? Won by luck? Were you even watching the game? :| You obviously have such a bias for the Celtics that you're completely incapable of forming an objective opinion on the game.

The simple fact is that neither team dominated, and the Pistons did not win by luck. Whether you can come to grips with that is up to you...

The Celtics had the lead for the majority of the game. A lead that ranged from 2-10. They didnt give up the lead until mid 4th quarter if memory servers me.

..and they didnt win by luck? Pierce missing an easy 2 instead of going for the layup with 1.7 left on the clock and having tony allen give you an idiotic foul to win isnt luck? If you call that skill on the pistons part then wow.

how is that luck? It's not liek pierce and allen didn't have control over what they were doing, they just didn't make the right plays. ive never seen anyone get this defensive over a loss in an otherwise well played game. Looks like someones bitter that their team lost...

that was a good game

the celtics are doing exactly what they should be doing; beat up on weak teams and play a good competitive games against great teams, remember people this is still a work in progress, anyone who thinks the celtics cant beat a good team or anyone that thinks the celtics are unstoppable should check themselves

BeanTownBrown86

This is the truth here. I'm upset they lost but that was an entertaining, physical game, much more entertaining than the usual blowouts ;). This Celtics team needs to face a few bumps in the road already, they will learn lessons and be better off later on because of games like this. Looking forward to the rematch @ the Palace.

[QUOTE="Just_Osmo"][QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"][QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]Despite the low score, that was a great game. Celtics fans better get used to this. You can't beat up on weak East teams forever.Dutch_Mix

hahahaha, beat up on weak east teams yet we dominated the game through the first 3 quarters and missed winning the game because pierce missed the shot and tony allen fouled on the pistons shot with .1 seconds left.

To have a game that close when you are the veteren team and the Celtics have played together for 22 games prior to this one is pathetic.

Don't talk crap when you won by luck against a team you just tried to claim is weak.

Dominated? Won by luck? Were you even watching the game? :| You obviously have such a bias for the Celtics that you're completely incapable of forming an objective opinion on the game.

The simple fact is that neither team dominated, and the Pistons did not win by luck. Whether you can come to grips with that is up to you...

The Celtics had the lead for the majority of the game. A lead that ranged from 2-10. They didnt give up the lead until mid 4th quarter if memory servers me.

..and they didnt win by luck? Pierce missing an easy 2 instead of going for the layup with 1.7 left on the clock and having tony allen give you an idiotic foul to win isnt luck? If you call that skill on the pistons part then wow.

A 10 point lead in the second quarter and you have the audacity to say they dominated? :|

Again, did you even watch the game? Honestly, your claims that the Pistons won by luck (or lack of skill) is absurd and unfounded.

The Pistons winning because of a missed easy 2 (or even easier lay up if he would have done that) and leaving 1.7 seconds on the clock and then having Tony Allen fouling on the final shot is not luck? i don't see how that win had anything to do with skill. Sure keeping the game close took skill but they didnt win with skill. the win was luck.

[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"][QUOTE="Just_Osmo"][QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"][QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]Despite the low score, that was a great game. Celtics fans better get used to this. You can't beat up on weak East teams forever.Just_Osmo

hahahaha, beat up on weak east teams yet we dominated the game through the first 3 quarters and missed winning the game because pierce missed the shot and tony allen fouled on the pistons shot with .1 seconds left.

To have a game that close when you are the veteren team and the Celtics have played together for 22 games prior to this one is pathetic.

Don't talk crap when you won by luck against a team you just tried to claim is weak.

Dominated? Won by luck? Were you even watching the game? :| You obviously have such a bias for the Celtics that you're completely incapable of forming an objective opinion on the game.

The simple fact is that neither team dominated, and the Pistons did not win by luck. Whether you can come to grips with that is up to you...

The Celtics had the lead for the majority of the game. A lead that ranged from 2-10. They didnt give up the lead until mid 4th quarter if memory servers me.

..and they didnt win by luck? Pierce missing an easy 2 instead of going for the layup with 1.7 left on the clock and having tony allen give you an idiotic foul to win isnt luck? If you call that skill on the pistons part then wow.

A 10 point lead in the second quarter and you have the audacity to say they dominated? :|

Again, did you even watch the game? Honestly, your claims that the Pistons won by luck (or lack of skill) is absurd and unfounded.

The Pistons winning because of a missed easy 2 (or even easier lay up if he would have done that) and leaving 1.7 seconds on the clock and then having Tony Allen fouling on the final shot is not luck? i don't see how that win had anything to do with skill. Sure keeping the game close took skill but they didnt win with skill. the win was luck.

*ahem* A win is a win

[QUOTE="shooks20"][QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]

The Pistons shouldn't have won that game.

Just_Osmo

You realize the two examples I gave were late in the game when it was very close.....you sound very bitter

I'm not bitter just a little pissed at some of the calls. It was ana mazing game and the next one between the 2 will be amazing. For a team that had never played together before this season theyw ere pretty impressive. To bring the game down to the wire and almost having won it against the supposive best team in the east is impressive. Especially if youconsider they had the lead through 75% of the game by 5-10 points.

They weren't supposed by anyone to be the best--that title was with the Celtics the whole month.

[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"][QUOTE="Just_Osmo"][QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"][QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]Despite the low score, that was a great game. Celtics fans better get used to this. You can't beat up on weak East teams forever.Just_Osmo

hahahaha, beat up on weak east teams yet we dominated the game through the first 3 quarters and missed winning the game because pierce missed the shot and tony allen fouled on the pistons shot with .1 seconds left.

To have a game that close when you are the veteren team and the Celtics have played together for 22 games prior to this one is pathetic.

Don't talk crap when you won by luck against a team you just tried to claim is weak.

Dominated? Won by luck? Were you even watching the game? :| You obviously have such a bias for the Celtics that you're completely incapable of forming an objective opinion on the game.

The simple fact is that neither team dominated, and the Pistons did not win by luck. Whether you can come to grips with that is up to you...

The Celtics had the lead for the majority of the game. A lead that ranged from 2-10. They didnt give up the lead until mid 4th quarter if memory servers me.

..and they didnt win by luck? Pierce missing an easy 2 instead of going for the layup with 1.7 left on the clock and having tony allen give you an idiotic foul to win isnt luck? If you call that skill on the pistons part then wow.

A 10 point lead in the second quarter and you have the audacity to say they dominated? :|

Again, did you even watch the game? Honestly, your claims that the Pistons won by luck (or lack of skill) is absurd and unfounded.

The Pistons winning because of a missed easy 2 (or even easier lay up if he would have done that) and leaving 1.7 seconds on the clock and then having Tony Allen fouling on the final shot is not luck? i don't see how that win had anything to do with skill. Sure keeping the game close took skill but they didnt win with skill. the win was luck.

Luck? Cleverly drawing a foul from a pump fake isn't a skill especially when the guy never misses a single crunch-time free throw?

All these people saying that Detroit was the Highest rated team in the East, go to SportsIllustrated, ESPN, and many other sportswebsitesand see that the BOSTON CELTICS were expected to be the best team this year. They were expected to be the best of the EAST, not the Detroit Pistons. While the Detroit Pistons have 4 guys who have been together for a few years now they also have one big hole in the lineup. The loss of ben still has not truly been filled yet. The Pistons won, that it. I am from Detroit, I honestly expected to see the Celtics blow us out tonight, but once again Boston proved that they are not ready for a team like Detroit. The Celtics have lost now 9 straight matches against the Pistons. The Celitcs will continue to be an amazing team but just wait until your boys hit some of the best in the West. The East is a weak this year. Pistons won Woohooo. quit your complaining and quit calling it luck. Oh yea Celtics, Luck of the Irish, thats where all this junk about luck is coming from. zeldafan00013

9 straight wins lol. 8 of those being durign the years when we barely ever won a game.

[QUOTE="Just_Osmo"][QUOTE="shooks20"][QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]

The Pistons shouldn't have won that game.

dkhw

You realize the two examples I gave were late in the game when it was very close.....you sound very bitter

I'm not bitter just a little pissed at some of the calls. It was ana mazing game and the next one between the 2 will be amazing. For a team that had never played together before this season theyw ere pretty impressive. To bring the game down to the wire and almost having won it against the supposive best team in the east is impressive. Especially if youconsider they had the lead through 75% of the game by 5-10 points.

They weren't supposed by anyone to be the best--that title was with the Celtics the whole month.

The Pistons are considered by many analists to be the best in the east.

[QUOTE="Just_Osmo"][QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"][QUOTE="Just_Osmo"][QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"][QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]Despite the low score, that was a great game. Celtics fans better get used to this. You can't beat up on weak East teams forever.dkhw

hahahaha, beat up on weak east teams yet we dominated the game through the first 3 quarters and missed winning the game because pierce missed the shot and tony allen fouled on the pistons shot with .1 seconds left.

To have a game that close when you are the veteren team and the Celtics have played together for 22 games prior to this one is pathetic.

Don't talk crap when you won by luck against a team you just tried to claim is weak.

Dominated? Won by luck? Were you even watching the game? :| You obviously have such a bias for the Celtics that you're completely incapable of forming an objective opinion on the game.

The simple fact is that neither team dominated, and the Pistons did not win by luck. Whether you can come to grips with that is up to you...

The Celtics had the lead for the majority of the game. A lead that ranged from 2-10. They didnt give up the lead until mid 4th quarter if memory servers me.

..and they didnt win by luck? Pierce missing an easy 2 instead of going for the layup with 1.7 left on the clock and having tony allen give you an idiotic foul to win isnt luck? If you call that skill on the pistons part then wow.

A 10 point lead in the second quarter and you have the audacity to say they dominated? :|

Again, did you even watch the game? Honestly, your claims that the Pistons won by luck (or lack of skill) is absurd and unfounded.

The Pistons winning because of a missed easy 2 (or even easier lay up if he would have done that) and leaving 1.7 seconds on the clock and then having Tony Allen fouling on the final shot is not luck? i don't see how that win had anything to do with skill. Sure keeping the game close took skill but they didnt win with skill. the win was luck.

Luck? Cleverly drawing a foul from a pump fake isn't a skill especially when the guy never misses a single crunch-time free throw?

It was lucky. he was lucky that Tony Allen wasn't thinking and fell for it instead of letting him take the shot like your suppost to. You should never let a game be won with a free throw.

The Pistons winning because of a missed easy 2 (or even easier lay up if he would have done that) and leaving 1.7 seconds on the clock and then having Tony Allen fouling on the final shot is not luck?Just_Osmo

No, that isn't luck. Man, your so up above the clouds that you can't even see things like they are. If i remember correctly, the Pistons were the one that had the lead most of the 4th quarter.

Luck? Easy 2 as you say, but he missed it, it's called a missed shot, not "oh i had bad luck, that's why i missed". And Tony Allen's foul was a mix of stupidity from his part and a great pump-fake by Billups. He still had to make at least one shot with virtually no time left on the clock, and he made both of them

[QUOTE="manningbowl135"][QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]

[QUOTE="manningbowl135"]I'm not impressed with the Celtics yet. They seem to lose against the elite teams. Cavaliers WITH James, Pistons and Magic when they were gelling.Just_Osmo

How can you not be impressed with a team playing with a 20-3 record in their first year playign together?

I don't care what year they're playing together! Why would I? It's not like a young team that shows promise in first year and I'm impressed b/c they have a bright future. This team does not have a bright future. Their chances to win is now and with 3 superstars, losing 3 times against 3 elite teams (Magic when they were) is not good. They have to win this year. Noone will cut them a break b/c it's their first year playing together, unlike the blazers.

Everyone knows thatwhen a team has had a few years together they play 10x better because they know what the others are doing before they even do it.

No one really gave the Celtics much of a chance this year because they hadnt ever played together, but look at them right now they are wrecking bad teams and having very close games with the elites. Tonight should have been a win, but the last play didnt go their way. I still see them in the finals. Do I think they will win it? i don't know the west is still the elites.

Problem is they don't have a few years. They'll be too old by then.

Holy crap, I've never seen someone whine so much about a loss in December before.

Chill out, Osmo. Chances are, the Celtics and Pistons will be the top 2 seeds in the East anyway -- this game is basically meaningless.

[QUOTE="dkhw"][QUOTE="Just_Osmo"][QUOTE="shooks20"][QUOTE="Just_Osmo"]

The Pistons shouldn't have won that game.

Just_Osmo

You realize the two examples I gave were late in the game when it was very close.....you sound very bitter

I'm not bitter just a little pissed at some of the calls. It was ana mazing game and the next one between the 2 will be amazing. For a team that had never played together before this season theyw ere pretty impressive. To bring the game down to the wire and almost having won it against the supposive best team in the east is impressive. Especially if youconsider they had the lead through 75% of the game by 5-10 points.

They weren't supposed by anyone to be the best--that title was with the Celtics the whole month.

The Pistons are considered by many analists to be the best in the east.

who? The sports guy? He predicts a second round exit from the Detroit. ESPN? They rank Pistons below Boston in their power rankings. CNN? Yahoo? Which anaylst are we talking about here?

The Pistons have been playing together for years, and they're a veteran team if that wasn't the case Celtics would have blown them out. The Pistons have the edge right now b/c of that, and wtf happened to theOrlando Magic?D3s7rUc71oN

Not according to some peopel in this thread. The playing together for years thing doesn't matter.

[QUOTE="D3s7rUc71oN"]The Pistons have been playing together for years, and they're a veteran team if that wasn't the case Celtics would have blown them out. The Pistons have the edge right now b/c of that, and wtf happened to theOrlando Magic?Just_Osmo

Not according to some peopel in this thread. The playing together for years thing doesn't matter.

TBH, some jump at the opportunity to bash and discredit their 20-3 record regardless who they've played. Funny thing is they've lost in the final minutes of those 3 losses, 2 on the road(one in OT) and the other at the last few seconds of the game. Finally last night with .1 second left :| so I don't get the stupid comments how they can't compete with the Elite teams. The've just started playing 23 games together! and people discredit them already?!

As for playing together in a few years, they'll be too old argument. Do people realize Steve Nash is 34yrs old and look how he's playing. People sure make dumb comments in order to reinforce what they want to believe. Lastly, forget about the Big Three they should be called The Big Four.