Falcons' Vick indicted by grand jury in dogfighting probe

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#2 mestizoman
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i have only two things to say

1. at least there is going to be huge outrage and pressure put on dogfighting/dogfighters

2. M vick is going to lose the falcons a lot of fans if they dont impose punishment on vick

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#3 sieg6529
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"rape stand"??? What kind of sick bastards do this?
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#4 Knowledge33
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DUDE!?
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#5 mestizoman
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"rape stand"??? What kind of sick bastards do this?sieg6529
thats not even the worst of it

strangling and drowning losing dogs??!!! this is utterly horrible

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#6 m3ss
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Funny how people used to think Mike was the "good" Vick compared to the problems Marcus was having at Virginia Tech, but I think flipping off WVU fans or stomping on a player pales in comparison to murdering dogs. I have a feeling that due to this indictment, Vick will be released from the Falcons. I'm pretty sure the Falcons owner is a huge dog lover, like much of the rest of America. Truely sad and disgraceful on Vick's part.
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#7 Rhazakna
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Michael Vick is scum.
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#8 UssjTrunks
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Michael Vick is scum.Rhazakna

Agreed.

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#9 kdt55
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This is just an indictment, its not like the judge slammed the hammer down and shouted 'guilty'. Oh wait, the NFL doesn't care about due process now that Goodell is in charge, he is the all mighty judge.
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#10 nolzwin
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holy crap ! , the feds must be pretty sure to go after an indictment , vicks career is over ,the public outcry is going to be deafening.
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#11 subject117
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I hope he gets punished to the full extent of the law.
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#13 romocop33
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**** him. if any of this is true, anyone who still roots for the guy or wears his jersey should be ashamed. what horrible human beings.
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**** him. if any of this is true, anyone who still roots for the guy or wears his jersey should be ashamed. what horrible human beings.romocop33

Because all who wear his jersey are aware of these charges. :roll:

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#15 kdt55
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Why do I get the feeling that everyone wants Vick to be guilty?
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#16 Renegade_Fury
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"Sigh" Silly Ron Mexico....

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#17 -Karmum-
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"Sigh" Silly Ron Mexico....

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Maybe it's just me, but I did not find that funny. But then again, I'm not a fan of bad jokes.

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#18 Renegade_Fury
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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

"Sigh" Silly Ron Mexico....

-Karmum-

Maybe it's just me, but I did not find that funny. But then again, I'm not a fan of bad jokes.

What?!! Some nobody on the internet didn'tlike my joke!. Oh whatever shall I do?!!

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#19 gatorforlife07
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God iv'e always hated that ****** now i hate him more
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I can't wait to see all Vick's sponsorship deals get pulled.

I honestly hope he get's maimed by a rabid dog.

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#21 LP_beats_Led_Z
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I hope he rots in jail.
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#22 duxup
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Yeah Vick was letting plenty of hints slip about his character for a while with dumb moves here or there, but this stuff is just horrible.
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If Vick is cleared of all charges, will someone create a topic titled..."We had Vick all wrong". Probably not. Everyone is declaring him guilty as we speak (type).
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[QUOTE="romocop33"]**** him. if any of this is true, anyone who still roots for the guy or wears his jersey should be ashamed. what horrible human beings.-Karmum-

Because all who wear his jersey are aware of these charges. :roll:

anyone who wears his jersey, if and when he gets convicted, would have to be either living in somewhere with no electricity, or an absolute moron to not know what he is/was/may have been involved with.

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#25 kdt55
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Romo, you would be very surprised how many people here in the ATL wear his jersey for fashion purposes only. They don't know crap about sports, and they don't know crap about current events, they just know about 'whats hot right now'. Hard to explain, but these people exist by the bunches. There are times when I see someone with a #7 jersey, and I try to talk sports, and they're like "What??? Oh this jersey, it goes with my shoes, thats all". No lie.
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#26 deactivated-618bc23e9b1c9
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If he is found guilty or he pleads guilty not only will the Falcons cut him but he should be banned from the NFL for LIFE. If people continue to wear his jersey after this they should get the #@$#% out of them.
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#27 Powerhitter0418
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I have lost all respect for him, I hope he goes to prison and is forced to retire. Hanging,drowning, and beating dogs or any animal to death is horrible and I hope he gets what he deserves.
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#28 madman683
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That's a terrible thing to do. Hanging, electricuting and slamming dogs is just cruel.
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#29 Ray2259
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guilty or not.. i think he's an idiot...

i dont get it.. celebs have all this money.. and to still continuously get wrapped up in this type of crap is ridiculous.. and his defense is "i wasnt there and i didnt know" really? thats it.. i spend (insert waste of money) for some house i let someone else just bide thier time in it and i dont come bck to check on the place....?

i expect that kinda bs from a teenager.. not a grown ass man

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#30 Decessus
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If Vick is cleared of all charges, will someone create a topic titled..."We had Vick all wrong". Probably not. Everyone is declaring him guilty as we speak (type).kdt55

Did you know that the Feds have a conviction rate greater than 95%?

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#31 romocop33
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[QUOTE="kdt55"]If Vick is cleared of all charges, will someone create a topic titled..."We had Vick all wrong". Probably not. Everyone is declaring him guilty as we speak (type).Decessus

Did you know that the Feds have a conviction rate greater than 95%?

not to mention the mounds of evidence against him.

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#32 Sants412
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wow saw this on sportscenter this morning

dog fighting for 40,000$+ and killing his dogs that lose

i dont even have the words for that one

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#33 Decessus
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not to mention the mounds of evidence against him.

romocop33

Innocent until proven guilty is all well and good when sitting on a jury. I however have no such obligation, and feel no guilt whatsoever for proclaiming Michael Vick to be the despicable person that he is.

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#34 romocop33
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[QUOTE="romocop33"]

not to mention the mounds of evidence against him.

Decessus

Innocent until proven guilty is all well and good when sitting on a jury. I however have no such obligation, and feel no guilt whatsoever for proclaiming Michael Vick to be the despicable person that he is.

i agree. atlanta's most beloved herpes sufferer may not be so beloved in the coming months.

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#35 sixringz1
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first of all even if he is found not guilty he still is around it. He breeds dogs and he owns the house where all this happened. Whether he was part of it or not, he DID know what was going on. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... . All that being said, face it, he's guilty. As a player i don't think atlanta will miss too much. He is definitely the most overated "super star" of my lifetime. The guy is a glorified kick returner/scat back who is allowed to throw the ball. Hell he hasn't even been the best qb on his own team over the last few years. And if Atlanta didn't pay him so much money, and feel forced to play him, maybe they would have had the balls to put Shwaab in to play qb. Now Shwaab is gone.
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I'm pretty darn sure that the humane society will put pressure on the Atlanta Falcons and M.Vick's sponsors to drop him and public pressure as well should be enough to send that s.o.b. packing. Anyone who continues to support him after this should not be considered a human being.
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#37 matrix_hiei
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as a dog lover, i hope vick never plays football in the nfl again. what an absolutely dispicable thing to do. vick is a murderer, and i have no sympathy or respect for him.
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#38 GamerForca
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It was only a matter of time.......

Well, at least the Falcons still have Matt Schaub. Oh, that's right, he's with the Texans. :lol: So, who will startfor the Falcons now? Joey Harrington? LOL. Maybe they'll wisen up and start DJ Shockley instead. I mean, he can't be any worse at passing than Harrington and he can run. The Falcons are doomed either way unless Vick is miraculously cleared of charges. But by week eight or so they'll fall to pieces and miss the playoffs anyway.

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#39 -Dionysus-
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Vick is done. First of all, you don't get indicted by the feds unless you have some serious evidence against you. After all his legal worries, I doubt he ever plays in the NFL again. Endorsements are way gone. Yet, I have no sympathy whatsoever for him.
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Horrible, just horrible...
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I was one to really support Vick when he was being criticized for not being able to throw the ball last seaon. I said that if he had receivers, he may actually sit back and throw 4 TDs a game. Crumpler being the #1 receiver should be a concern for Falcon fans. In any event, I completely have no respect for Vick anymore! He can join his child molesting little brother and hide his head in his hands. What a waste of talent!

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ime

Vick is done. First of all, you don't get indicted by the feds unless you have some serious evidence against you. After all his legal worries, I doubt he ever plays in the NFL again. Endorsements are way gone. Yet, I have no sympathy whatsoever for him.-Dionysus-

not always true.. the grounds for being indicted are not as weighty as many may think... all that is needed is probable cause

here is how it goes

simply put....

a Federal Crime has been commitited

it is pssible that he is involved

thats all they needed for Vick to be indicted...

now the prollem is.. they found a BOAT LOAD f ecidence on op of that.. it only makes the case stronger

but the requirements for a grand jury indictment are very broad

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Hard to believe a multi-millionaire football player has nothing better to do in his free time... pathetic.
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I was one to really support Vick when he was being criticized for not being able to throw the ball last seaon. I said that if he had receivers, he may actually sit back and throw 4 TDs a game. Crumpler being the #1 receiver should be a concern for Falcon fans. In any event, I completely have no respect for Vick anymore! He can join his child molesting little brother and hide his head in his hands. What a waste of talent!

mrvic87
Four TDs a game is a bit much I think. Sometimes his passes were so wild, his receivers didn't know what to expect half of the time. It does not matter anyway because Vince Young will be what mv will never be, a winner.
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#45 Ngamer05
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I can't wait to see all Vick's sponsorship deals get pulled.

I honestly hope he get's maimed by a rabid dog.

Netherscourge

I think his endorsement deals with Nike is still intact, which is hard to believe...

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ime[QUOTE="-Dionysus-"]Vick is done. First of all, you don't get indicted by the feds unless you have some serious evidence against you. After all his legal worries, I doubt he ever plays in the NFL again. Endorsements are way gone. Yet, I have no sympathy whatsoever for him.Ray2259

not always true.. the grounds for being indicted are not as weighty as many may think... all that is needed is probable cause

here is how it goes

simply put....

a Federal Crime has been commitited

it is pssible that he is involved

thats all they needed for Vick to be indicted...

now the prollem is.. they found a BOAT LOAD f ecidence on op of that.. it only makes the case stronger

but the requirements for a grand jury indictment are very broad

Not when it comes to a high-profile person like Mike Vick. Regardless, he's so done. His cousin was arrested on federal drug charges and "when" he's convicted he faces absolute jail time, he will cut a deal to bring down Vick. Especially when it's just conspiracy to commit, Vick didn't have to physically do any of that stuff.

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ime[QUOTE="-Dionysus-"]Vick is done. First of all, you don't get indicted by the feds unless you have some serious evidence against you. After all his legal worries, I doubt he ever plays in the NFL again. Endorsements are way gone. Yet, I have no sympathy whatsoever for him.Ray2259

not always true.. the grounds for being indicted are not as weighty as many may think... all that is needed is probable cause

here is how it goes

simply put....

a Federal Crime has been commitited

it is pssible that he is involved

thats all they needed for Vick to be indicted...

now the prollem is.. they found a BOAT LOAD f ecidence on op of that.. it only makes the case stronger

but the requirements for a grand jury indictment are very broad

While the grounds for actually being indicted may not be high, there is a reason that the Feds have a conviction rate that is greater than 95%. They do not indict someone unless they know they are going to have a guilty verdict returned.

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#48 kdt55
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I wonder if the feds are just out to get Vick like that one dude was out to get those Duke players. Hmmm. Also, I hope the Feds arent depending on testimony from dudes already in jail, that would be stupid on their part.
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#49 Master_Live
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I wonder if the feds are just out to get Vick like that one dude was out to get those Duke players. Hmmm. Also, I hope the Feds arent depending on testimony from dudes already in jail, that would be stupid on their part.kdt55

Son, the guy from the Duke case wasn't a Fed, this are the Feds, they know what there doing. 95% conviction rate, I rest my case.

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#50 kdt55
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Does that 95% conviction rate include plea bargains....SON.