Do you want the current Sonic games to be as hard as the cIassic games?

So today I've been playing Sonic CIassic Collection on the DSi and after getting stuck on Marble Zone in Sonic 1, gotten mad to the point where I want to ragequit at Mystic Cave Zone in Sonic 2, it got me into thinking. Most Sonic games are quite easy nowadays like Generations, Colours (not sure about this one but I've heard it's pretty easy) and Unleashed (except Eggmanland in the HD versions, of course), especially when compared to the cIassics. Anyway, do you guys want the current Sonic games to be as hard as the cIassic games? Personally I don't mind it having some difficulty but not to the point where I want to throw my controller or handheld to the ground or ragequit.

Oh and sorry if this thread is pretty stupid, been a long time since I made one on GS. >.> 

The only difference I can think of between the Genesis Era games and the current ones is that when Sonic gets hit, he would lose all his Rings.

Everything else that causes difficulty in the Genesis Era games is still present in the current ones. 

Marble Zone is piss easy. You haven't even gotten to Labyrinth Zone yet.

Most people say they can't beat Sonic 3 because of that barrel in Carnival Night, but that's their fault they just jumped on it like mad men. Most Sonic games are not that hard.

Marble Zone is piss easy. You haven't even gotten to Labyrinth Zone yet.

Soniczero1993

Most people say they can't beat Sonic 3 because of that barrel in Carnival Night, but that's their fault they just jumped on it like mad men.

Soniczero1993

Most Sonic games are not that hard.

TheGuyWhoTook20MinutesToBeatSkySanctuary

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Most Sonic games are not that hard.

sonicphc

Does not count. Emulators are not legit games.

I definitely agree with you that the Old games are harder than the new ones (Anyone who disagrees should go play Metropolis from Sonic 2 again to remind themselves, and if that doesn't do it, go replay the final boss from Sonic 2).sonicphc

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Most Sonic games are not that hard.

Soniczero1993

Does not count. Emulators are not legit games.

Marble Zone is piss easy. You haven't even gotten to Labyrinth Zone yet.

Most people say they can't beat Sonic 3 because of that barrel in Carnival Night, but that's their fault they just jumped on it like mad men. Most Sonic games are not that hard.

Soniczero1993

Don't forget, up and down and all around! :P

Honestly I've never found any Sonic game "hard" at least in terms of reaching "the end" as opposed to the full end with all emeralds or whatever. I mean older games were hard because there was no auto saving, when you died in the original Sonic and had no continues you started over as opposed to say Colors or Generations where you just go back to the hub now. Then there are games like 06 which are hard because you have gliches popping out to send you to your death.

This is a complaint with a lot of modern games being "too easy" but think about things that old ones didn't have. Auto saving, in game hints, patches, etc.

Wow. Either I seriously suck at the classic games or they're that easy. :/ 

Marble Zone is piss easy. You haven't even gotten to Labyrinth Zone yet.

Soniczero1993

I am so not looking forward to it now. >.> :P 

@phc I guess it's best if in the beginning of the games it starts out easy then gradually gets harder and harder. Of course it doesn't have to be so hard one would most likely to throw their controller or something like that. :P Maybe something like Rayman Origins. It's hard but not to the point where you become really frustrated or something. Then again, they placed plenty of checkpoints throughout the levels. Besides I mainly got frustrated with Sonic 2 due to the enemy placement in the levels. They always seem to attack me at the worst times, honestly.

@kbaily Even with the saving (which is available in the Classics Collection) I still find myself struggling to finish the levels, let alone the game itself.

@phc I guess it's best if in the beginning of the games it starts out easy then gradually gets harder and harder. Of course it doesn't have to be so hard one would most likely to throw their controller or something like that. :Pkoolkat14

Besides I mainly got frustrated with Sonic 2 due to the enemy placement in the levels. They always seem to attack me at the worst times, honestly.

koolkat14

Guys, Test of Love in Sonic 2006, hardest S-rank in all of Sonic.

Speaking of things that are difficult, question for phc: do you use a keyboard for Generations? If so, how hard is that massive shortcut as the start of modern Chemical Plant?srbrans

Trying to S rank all of 06, that's a chore in itself. :Pmacrules_640

S ranking for a while was one of the more challenging aspects of modern Sonic games though this greatly depended on the game you were playing. Heroes and Unleashed's day stages were so linear that it was mostly a matter of just dashing as fast as possible and finding all shortcuts to S rank. Hell Unleashed showed you at the top where you're current rank was.

Colors was significantly easier because it wasn't totally based on simply how fast you made it throught he level but based on Power up usage, coin bonuses, trick bonuses, etc. And in a bass ackwards move, playing as Super Sonic didn't guarantee an S rank because Super Sonic couldn't use whisp powers.

Generations or at least the main stages seem to be extremely easy to S rank as long as you get through them relatively fast and don't die. Anyone who saw my PSN trophies saw I got the Big Bang: S rank all levels trophy today.

Sonic 06 S ranking is a challenge though you can always use the glitches to your advantage with it. Jump through walls, use the purple gem...

[QUOTE="macrules_640"]Trying to S rank all of 06, that's a chore in itself. :Pkbaily

S ranking for a while was one of the more challenging aspects of modern Sonic games though this greatly depended on the game you were playing. Heroes and Unleashed's day stages were so linear that it was mostly a matter of just dashing as fast as possible and finding all shortcuts to S rank. Hell Unleashed showed you at the top where you're current rank was. 

Actually, in the HD versions of Unleashed, if you tried to Speedrun a level, you'd get a B Rank. 

Just a little patient is required that's all. :Pmacrules_640

The old Sonic games were hard, (think back to the first time you played it), where the first zone was the only time you could breeze through a stage without dying once. In later games (post 2000) this changed, with the games becoming easier and deaths owing more to frustration inducing elements then actual challenge.

The new games could be harder, but not frustration inducing, and any frustration should feel rewarding.

A good example are these two levels from sonic 3

Marble Garden Zone

Carnival Night Zone

For differant reasons both of these are hard. But one of these zones is better than the other because it's more original, has better music, and is less frustrating due to the amount of options givin to you (branching paths, items) and feels rewarding to play again and get a little furthur than last time.

Can you guess which one? ;)

I'm guessing Carnival Night Zone?