Republican legislators in Wyoming propose banning sale of electric cars by 2035

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Granted it doesn't directly ban the sale of those cars. The source is a little longer article than what I have copy/paste below.

Republican legislators in Wyoming have decided it is time to take the discussion surrounding the sale of electric vehicles in the state directly into the political sphere.A bill proposal (SJ0004) has been presentedby two state representatives and four state senators and calls for “phasing out the sale of new electric vehicles in Wyoming by 2035”

It’s a little, straightforward bill that doesn’t actually forbid the sale of EVs but instead offers drastically biased perspectives on their advantages and disadvantages. At least not yet. The law would only accomplish two things if it was passed. First, it would compel the legislature to set a deadline of 2035 for the phase-out of new electric car sales in Wyoming. The legislation would ” Wyoming’s industry and citizens to limit the sale and purchase of new electric vehicles in Wyoming,” according to its text.

Republican State Senator Jim Anderson said, “The Legislature would be saying, ‘If you don’t like our petroleum automobiles, well, we don’t like your electric cars.'” Anderson was the resolution’s sponsor,according to the Cowboy State Daily. For the installation of EV charging stations in the state, Wyoming is set to receive $24 million from the federal government, according to a report published late last year.

While claiming that the extraction of these resources “has long been one of Wyoming’s proud and treasured businesses,” the “whereas” portion of the proposed measure is full of sentimental affection for the oil and gas sector.

Additionally, it discusses how “throughout the state’s history, the oil and gas business in Wyoming has supplied revenues to the state of Wyoming and produced much employment”. However, according to the state’s official review of the legislation, there would be “no monetary or personnel consequence”.

Tell me you are bought by oil and gas without telling me you are bought by oil and gas.

Thoughts? Imo this sounds backwards.

I was going to post this, but then decided it was pointless. It's just stupid Republicans grandstanding again.

There's a reason they're called backwards red states.

This is silly even by Republican standards.

And yes, it is a sales ban...in 2035. They're trying to downplay the extremism by saying "Oh well it's not a ban" but it is, ultimately.

Republicans have become nothing but a punchline to a joke. The actual political party from the past is dead.

yup. a state w/ 0.175% of the population of the country is going to move the needle on anything here.

also, LOL what?

"Section 3.That the Secretary of State of Wyoming transmit copies of this resolution to the President of the United States, each member of Wyoming's congressional delegation, the President of the United States Senate, the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, the governor of Wyoming and the governor of California."

why do republicans have such a hard-on for california?

Can't we just relocate the few people who live there and turn Wyoming into a big lithium mine so we can make more batteries?

See? We can all make jokes, Wyoming.

Sure it isn’t on par?

I think It's a trap for those who try to ban petroleum vehicles in the future. Shut this down by legal means, the precident would be set to not allow government to phase out/ban gas run vehicles.

To be clear I'm against phasing out ANY vehicles.

But muh free market!

@sargentd: A trap. I laughed. Republican version of virtue signaling. That's it, that's all.

Regardless, the market will take care of itself and once the tipping point is reached used ICE vehicles will be worthless and the market for new ones will quickly dry up. Capitalism is fun.

This is the exact same state that set up a 1.2 million legal fund to sue states who don't want to buy their coal

https://coloradosun.com/2021/05/02/wyoming-coal-lawsuits-law-colorado/

It is because of politicians like these Rockstar didn't want to release a new GTA game. :P

@THUMPTABLE: is it really that wild of a thought? Politicians have already been trying to ban diesel vehicles. Which alot of people don't like or want that.

Is it that crazy to think someone might pull a fliparoonie on EVs to make a point?

Hybrid vehicles are just superior. The advancement of combustion + electric energy (almost) fuels an entire industry.

They are taking a page from California.

How?

iirc california is set to ban sale of new ICE autos in the coming decade or two

When a liberal state wants to ban ICE it's fine to many here but the SHTF when it's EV's taking the hit.

It reminds me of some of the dumb legislation I'd see in West Virginia. Wyoming is the top coal producing state in the country. EVs would increase demand for that product; at least in certain areas. They're not doing themselves any favors in the long run.

@Solaryellow: But they aren't really taking a hit and it is nothing more than Republican virtue signaling. I have no idea how anyone could possibly take this seriously as it is obviously a political stunt.

Which makes sense considering the damage they do.

Many people don't want/can't afford to pay 3x as much for an EV.

The infrastructure is built around gas powered vehicles.

It makes more sense to not phase out aka (have government force you to buy a more expensive vehicle)

If EVs take over eventually in the free market then fine. But the government shouldn't be legislating the competition out in favor of some global warming agenda.

California is banning the sale of gas powered vehicles by 2035. Wyoming jsut changed to EV. Same thing.

Yeah but California is the good guy here😂😋

@mrbojangles25: government shouldn't ban either one of them. The market will change over time. As costs come down on EVs they will get a greater market share and once more infrastructure is in place for them as well.

Realistically a ban on gas powered vehicles will hit the poor and working class the hardest. Imo it's foolish to force a change in in the market share by using government legislation on automobiles. This needs to happen naturally and not be forced.

CA and Wyoming are both virtue signaling for political points without thinking about who this is going to hurt the most. CA is setting the precedent to be able to do this. It's stupid and I don't agree with it.

Oh I actually kind of agree to an extent; I think EV adoption should occur naturally and shouldn't be forced, and they are too expensive on average.

However the issue here is that while California is doing something out of ignorance (but for good), Wyoming is doing something out of willful ignorance (and for bad). Those are not the kind of people you want in power.

I mean both options are sort of silly in their own way, but there's only one asshole here, and it's Wyoming.

GOP = this is why we can't have nice things

Yes. It's horribly stupid. I'm amazed anyone could even think it, never mind actually type it out...

It doesn't matter either way.

2035 bans on ICE cars is just politics. ICE is already into unstoppable decline and new ICE vehicles will not be made by then. Democratic virtue signaling on EVs is just using timelines that are already expected to be met. There is nothing particularly aggressive about 2035.

Similarly, Republican virtue signaling on ICE is also just that: short term politics.

If you closely follow the auto industry this should already be apparent to you. If not, you might want to invest a few minutes to see what is happening in the industry.

Also, Japan is fcuked as their autoindustry is ill prepared on EVs; especially Toyota, which is ironic given the Prius. But let's face it, Japan is fcuked no matter what because of major population decline.

Electric cars aren't the future.. hydrogen fuel is. Put it on the board.

hydrogen fuel is used to generate electricity. hydrogen cars are electric cars

Isn't that the Republican way though? lol

Since when?

We dont tend to say that out loud. :P

@comp_atkins: Comparing hydrogen fuel to a charging station is asinine at best. Let's not split hairs when two things are incomparable. Hydrogen is not only clean, but is also renewable, doesn't put a strain on the power grid, and is cheap to produce. Not to mention it's only byproduct is water.

All fuels including our current gasoline produce elctricty.. let's not pretend there isn't a difference.

Hydrogen gas can be stored as both a gas and a liquid.

At this point anyone still investing in plug and play cars is an idiot. It's only a matter of time before it's proven ineffective. Hell they have already called for the ban of all electric vehicles by a certain year in some places...

@horgen: lol this won't go anywhere. ICE cars are going down whether people like it or not. The EVs and the infrastructure around them are getting better and better in everyway imaginable, and the limitations will get less and less. They are much cheaper to operate, and this will play a huge role in deciding what people want to drive.

On top of that, many liberal states have already set a ban on ICE vehicles for 2035, including California and New York. What will people in wyoming drive in 2035? Old beat up gas cars? No car maker will keep making gas cars for such a small market, its unprofitable.

Oh I know. Here it was a lot of talk about ending the sale of personal ICE cars as early as 2025. If that is still the plan I don't know.

This isn't a ban, it's merely political clout for a market that's effectively non-existent in the state.

Wyoming car buyers purchased only 228 EVs in the first 11 months of 2022, the most recent time frame for which Experian has data. That's the second-lowest total of any state, according to the data. Only North Dakota, at 213 EV units sold, had fewer. - link

Must be a very slow news day if we care about this.

Political stunt that won't amount to anything. Just makes them look extra dumb.

But the thing that makes these arguments invalid is climate change. There is no hypocrisy or double standards due to that.

It's what makes this political stunt seem so absurd.

Marjorie Taylor Green: "President Biden abused his power to sell our oil, reduce gas prices, so that the midterm elections would swing Democrats' way. It's a shame to trick the American people just to win an election. No president should be able to use their emergency powers for politics."

What the ****? What? How does anyone in the House listen to that and not grin at the absurdity?

Know it's only very loosely related, but I don't make threads here.

Climate change is the excuse to destroy our way of life. According to the science even if the UA went totally green it would have no effect on the climate. In fact it would do more harm to environment. Theses climate change measures are for control of the people it is what it has always been about.. but since you were scared as kids in school that the planet is going to be destroyed by global warming you haven't been able to think logically.

Why do you gaslight all the time??

shit.

that reminds me. i need to read the minutes from the last "control the world by getting people to use energy more efficiently" cabal meeting. i missed the last one.

This is quite literally fan-fiction and you are lying:

Annual 2020 Global Climate Report | National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI) (noaa.gov)

New Report—by 13 Federal Agencies—Reaffirms Need for Urgent Climate Action | NRDC

Summary for Policymakers of IPCC Special Report on Global Warming of 1.5°C approved by governments — IPCC

Gonna be difficult to get into the next meeting. The memo from this meeting included time and date for next meeting of this type. Including the password O=

I wonder if Night City from Cyberpunk 2077 is a republican utopia. Lack of regulations made the waters around the city toxic among other things.