He has sad a lot of things that I don’t agree with. I have also said here more than once, to deaf ears, that if a candidate that I thought would be a better leader went against him in 2020 then I may consider voting for that candidate. Instead I’m just called alt-right and outside of the forum called an Uncle Tom. You will not always agree with the candidate but you will obviously be more concerned with what their publicly declared goals while in power are. In terms of holding his words about intel agencies and certain military leaders against him, I would consider that a serious criticism if nearly this entire forum didn’t do the exact same thing when leaders from the military and intel agencies said things they didn’t agree with. Most of this forum was ready to burn the NSA down when the Snowden leaks came out, for example. That doesn’t mean I don’t cringe and think that he needs to listen to them in most occasions.
If people want Trump supporters to “stand up” and turn against him for the reasons you posted, then they need to get the Democratic Party and their new de facto leader Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (who says a lot of cringeworthy stuff on camera and on Twitter like Trump but she gets a pass from the media because she’s a Democrat) to act like they care what those people want, rather than to keep pushing them away, pushing the “Blame America First” narrative, and hoping that enough people vote Democrat to make their opinions irrelevant on Election Day. No amount of “Trump is immoral” speeches will overcome Democrats looking at them as flyover scum that doesn’t know what is good for them.
AOC threatening to put Democrats on a “list” to be primaried out over them voting for things they believe their constituents would want is not something that makes her look good. Let any Republican say that the people are “yelling from the cheap seats” or “I’m the boss, how bout that” and see how fast they would have been destroyed by Cooper, Maddow, Lemon, Morning Joe, etc. as well as all of the late night talk show hosts and SNL skits instead of it only being mentioned on Tucker Carlson, Hannity, and Laura Ingraham.
It also doesn’t help when Democrats intentionally schedule a hearing with Trump’s disgraced lawyer (the subject of this thread) the same week he is in Vietnam trying to cut a deal with Kim Jong Un because they knew Cohen’s testimony would dominate the news instead of the summit. In a way, they indirectly helped take some of the heat off of him when he walked away from Kim because the news was still talking about Cohen instead, and many Trump supporters see Democrats putting a guy about to start a three year sentence for lying to Congress in front of Congress again just because he promised to say some bad things about Trump as a joke. Did you know that we secured 21 billion dollars in deals with Vietnam’s aviation industry during Trump’s visit, with the deals being signed in the presence of both Trump and the Vietnamese President? Probably not, because the news was more concerned with how Trump may or may not have paid off a porn star he may or man not have slept with while Melania was pregnant with Barron.
For the people on this forum that are in their mid-30s or older, a lot of them probably voted for Al Gore instead of George W. Bush during the 2000 election. Gore’s running mate was THE face of the movement to ban violent video games in the 90s, Senator Joe Lieberman. There is no way that fact would have gone over their heads, because nearly every video game magazine popular in the 90s from GamePro to EGM were talking about his crusade, but they probably voted for Gore anyway because they felt that he would be a better choice than Bush. Until Democrats give Republicans a reason to abandon Trump that doesn’t involve calling him racist or a Russian spy they‘re probably going to feel the same way even when he does say some of his most cringeworthy statements.
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