First Protected DREAMer gets deported under Trump.

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Source: USA Today

Federal agents ignored President Trump's pledge to protect from deportation undocumented immigrants brought to the United States as children by sending a young man back to his native Mexico, the first such documented case, a USA TODAY examination of the new administration's immigration policies shows.

After spending an evening with his girlfriend in Calexico, Calif., on Feb. 17, Juan Manuel Montes, 23, who has lived in the U.S. since age 9, grabbed a bite and was waiting for a ride when a U.S. Customs and Border Protection officer approached and started asking questions.

Montes was twice granted deportation protections under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program created by President Barack Obama and left intact by President Trump.

Montes had left his wallet in a friend's car, so he couldn't produce his ID or proof of his DACA status and was told by agents he couldn't retrieve them. Within three hours, he was back in Mexico, becoming the first undocumented immigrant with active DACA status deported by the Trump administration's stepped-up deportation policy.

"Some people told me that they were going to deport me; others said nothing would happen," Montes told USA TODAY in his aunt and uncle's home in western Mexico where he's been staying. "I thought that if I kept my nose clean nothing would happen." He asked that the exact location of their home be withheld.

Since taking office, Trump has followed through on his campaign pledge to crack down on illegal immigration by signing executive orders to step up enforcement against the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. The new policy calls for expanding the criteria for detaining and deporting undocumented immigrants and hiring thousands of new agents.

Yet Trump declined to revoke the DACA protections Obama had granted to more than 750,000 undocumented immigrants, repeatedly saying he had a soft spot for these young people who are leading productive lives and have few, if any, ties to the countries of their birth.

"They shouldn't be very worried," he told ABC News in January. "I do have a big heart."

Even so, DACA enrollees are being targeted by immigration authorities.At least 10 are in federal custody, according to United We Dream, an advocacy organization made up of DACA enrollees and other young immigrants.

The group's advocacy director, Greisa Martinez, who has DACA protection, said Montes' case is proof that people like herself are at risk despite what Trump said.

"We've seen Trump and (Department of Homeland Security Secretary) John Kelly say, 'The DACA program is alive and well.' We've seen (House Speaker) Paul Ryan look straight into the eyes of one of our members and say, 'You have nothing to worry about,'" she said. "And then this happens."

Customs and Border Protection said Tuesday it could not discuss Montes' case because of the department's privacy policy.

A group of attorneys filed a lawsuit in federal court in California on Tuesday requesting that a judge force Customs and Border Protection to release details of the agent's encounter with Montes.

Marielena Hincapié, executive director of the National Immigration Law Center, part of Montes' legal team, said it has requested information for months but has gotten no response.

"Even in this administration, because of Trump's comments about loving these people, the integrity of the government's promises are at stake," Hincapié said. "How does an immigrant family today know that this is not going to happen to them?"

So much for "protecting it".

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#2  Edited By LJS9502_basic  Online
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Trump is a lying jack ass.

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Rather than rely on an executive order like DACA, a better option would have been passing the actual DREAM Act through Congress so that they could be granted lawful status that wouldn't depend on who was in the White House.

Of course, we know how that ended up. At least they were still able to get rid of DADT around the same time.

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Our country is a dipshit parade led by a clown car.

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This is the most disgusting, unAmerican administration I have ever seen in my life.

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@hillelslovak said:

Our country is a dipshit parade led by a clown car.

Perhaps we deserve it.

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@HoolaHoopMan said:
@hillelslovak said:

Our country is a dipshit parade led by a clown car.

Perhaps we deserve it.

Nobody deserves this.

@nintendoboy16 said:

Source: USA Today

Montes had left his wallet in a friend's car, so he couldn't produce his ID or proof of his DACA status and was told by agents he couldn't retrieve them. Within three hours, he was back in Mexico, becoming the first undocumented immigrant with active DACA status deported by the Trump administration's stepped-up deportation policy.

So much for "protecting it".

WTF, are these agents sociopaths? I would think the first thing they would want is ID, and any relevant paperwork pertaining to immigration. I'm sure they hear it a lot, but when your job is immigration and someone says "Hey, I have some information about my immigration status!" you would think they would listen.

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Looks like a communist manifesto to me. USA today is known for that.

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He didn't belong in the USA

Blame his parent(s) for breaking our laws and bringing him here in the first place.

The USA is a sovereign nation with laws and a border and the authority to enforce the former and control the latter.

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Enforcing laws is bad. Thanks for the memo.

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@Solaryellow said:

Enforcing laws is bad. Thanks for the memo.

Just because it's the law, doesn't make it right.

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Federal agents ignored Trump's orders. Last time I checked federal agents do their own thing. As if Trump could tell the FBI to do anything.

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Seems like an unlawful deportation. Whoever was involved in his proceedings should be fired for abuse of authority.

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After reading some other sources, it states that Mr. Montes has no record of getting his DACA renewed after it expired in August 2015. He is suing the federal government over his deportation and claims that his DACA permit was renewed until 2018.

This situation can turn interesting. If he can prove that he did renew and back it up with proper documentation, then he could have a possible case. That is assuming that his documentation isn't fraudulent.

On the other hand, if he makes too much of a ruckus over this, what is stopping the president from reacting to the lawsuit by revoking DACA, screwing over other people being kept here by DACA? DACA was put in place by an executive order, not an act of Congress.

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@nintendoboy16 said:

Just because it's the law, doesn't make it right.

Even though you don't believe immigration laws need to be followed and enforced, it will happen. Change the laws if you are troubled by enforcement.

What do you feel is wrong with the situation?

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@LJS9502_basic said:

Trump is a lying jack ass.

What did he lie about? did Trump personally detain this illegal and deport him?

Also if people in this thread have such a big problem with deporting illegals, then you should work on getting them all a legal status or stop your whining.

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@Jacanuk said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Trump is a lying jack ass.

What did he lie about? did Trump personally detain this illegal and deport him?

Also if people in this thread have such a big problem with deporting illegals, then you should work on getting them all a legal status or stop your whining.

They should also be mad at Obama for deporting so many as well.

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@n64dd said:
@Jacanuk said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Trump is a lying jack ass.

What did he lie about? did Trump personally detain this illegal and deport him?

Also if people in this thread have such a big problem with deporting illegals, then you should work on getting them all a legal status or stop your whining.

They should also be mad at Obama for deporting so many as well.

Yup, but it´s Obama the Messiah of the alt-left snowflake movement :D

Can do no wrong and is the worlds best president just because he could hang with the kids, it's not like he was one of the worst presidents in the american history.

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@Jacanuk said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Trump is a lying jack ass.

What did he lie about? did Trump personally detain this illegal and deport him?

Also if people in this thread have such a big problem with deporting illegals, then you should work on getting them all a legal status or stop your whining.

He's lied about almost everything......you know he's lying cause his lips are moving.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@Jacanuk said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Trump is a lying jack ass.

What did he lie about? did Trump personally detain this illegal and deport him?

Also if people in this thread have such a big problem with deporting illegals, then you should work on getting them all a legal status or stop your whining.

He's lied about almost everything......you know he's lying cause his lips are moving.

Sure, but what does that have to do with this?

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@Jacanuk said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@Jacanuk said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Trump is a lying jack ass.

What did he lie about? did Trump personally detain this illegal and deport him?

Also if people in this thread have such a big problem with deporting illegals, then you should work on getting them all a legal status or stop your whining.

He's lied about almost everything......you know he's lying cause his lips are moving.

Sure, but what does that have to do with this?

Read my initial post. Read yours and then tell me.

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Why did they not want to see his ID? I thought that was crucial in this line of work.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@Jacanuk said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@Jacanuk said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Trump is a lying jack ass.

What did he lie about? did Trump personally detain this illegal and deport him?

Also if people in this thread have such a big problem with deporting illegals, then you should work on getting them all a legal status or stop your whining.

He's lied about almost everything......you know he's lying cause his lips are moving.

Sure, but what does that have to do with this?

Read my initial post. Read yours and then tell me.

Again i fail to see how Trump has anything to do with a overzealous agent who did not care about ID.

Which seems a bit "far fetched" to be fair.

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@horgen said:

Why did they not want to see his ID? I thought that was crucial in this line of work.

Ya it feels strange

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@Jacanuk: Always sad to see people that just can't get it............

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@LJS9502_basic said:

@Jacanuk: Always sad to see people that just can't get it............

Or maybe i just didn't care that you made a general statement.

After all someone might suggest that was just a troll comment then and last i checked the mods didn´t like that...

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#28  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@Solaryellow said:
@nintendoboy16 said:

Just because it's the law, doesn't make it right.

Even though you don't believe immigration laws need to be followed and enforced, it will happen. Change the laws if you are troubled by enforcement.

What do you feel is wrong with the situation?

What's wrong is that immigration laws are a clusterf*** to begin with. What's wrong is how ICE handled this situation on someone LEGALLY allowed to stay in the states and Trump saying he'll protect it, when he's not.

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@nintendoboy16 said:

What's wrong is that immigration laws are a clusterf*** to begin with. What's wrong is how ICE handled this situation on someone LEGALLY allowed to stay in the states and Trump saying he'll protect it, when he's not.

Is the Dream Act law?

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#30  Edited By LJS9502_basic  Online
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@Jacanuk said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

@Jacanuk: Always sad to see people that just can't get it............

Or maybe i just didn't care that you made a general statement.

After all someone might suggest that was just a troll comment then and last i checked the mods didn´t like that...

Damn you cry quite a bit about Trump.....

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I'm almost certain when it comes to something as obnoxious as wanting to deport dreamers it mostly has to do with race. Basically they don't like Mexicans.

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The agents who didn't give him the opportunity to get his wallet are at fault. And besides, don't they have records of this kind of shit to prevent deporting those who are allowed to stay? Someone fucked up processing this guy's deportation and should be fired. And I don't see how this is Trump's fault.

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@ssvegeta555 said:

The agents who didn't give him the opportunity to get his wallet are at fault. And besides, don't they have records of this kind of shit to prevent deporting those who are allowed to stay? Someone fucked up processing this guy's deportation and should be fired. And I don't see how this is Trump's fault.

I would assume. From the article you get the idea that these agents randomly stops people and just ships them back to Mexico without checking anything.

So it sounds like we are only hearing a small clip of the entire story.

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Is this the case that Judge Gonzalo Curiel is going to oversee?

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@PraetorianMan said:

Is this the case that Judge Gonzalo Curiel is going to oversee?

Yes, same judge

So who wants to bet that soon this man will be on US soil again.