Retracted: I missread the Carrier Plant Article: Carrier Plant Trump Saved to Lay Off 632 Employees

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#1  Edited By judaspete
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Edit: Sorry everyone, I messed this up earlier. 632 factory jobs are leaving, but the 800 promised before will still stay in Indiana. I misread that it was 632 of the 800 jobs that were supposed to stay. My apologies to everyone on the Political Gamers board.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/05/24/here-is-the-number-of-jobs-carrier-is-moving-to-mexico-after-trump-said-hed-save-them/?utm_term=.c85d6f37a8e9

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#2 horgen  Moderator
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Well I don't know how much of that tax break they have already received, but they have to pay it back now.

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#3 Serraph105
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Oh shit, I doubt the majority of his supporters will ever hear about that. Not really surprised though, we saw the same thing happen when a company called Whirlpool where I'm at moved to Mexico a few years ago as well. I honestly wonder if I would be better off at this point if I just got the hell out of the state.

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#4  Edited By tjandmia
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SO MUCH WINNING!!!

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Sad!

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In all seriousness, this was always going to happen lol. The supporters who were praising him for this are clueless.

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#7 LJS9502_basic  Online
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No surprise. It wasn't a secret....yet those fools believed he'd save their jobs. Now they will be unemployed and probably without medical care if the conservatives get their way.

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#8 Drunk_PI
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In before:

"WAPOST is fake news."

"ConservativePATRIOT2ndAmendment News" says Trump saved a bajillion jobs within teh U.S.

"Stop making fun of Trumpettes, Obama did the same thing in teh Middle East too, no wait, wrong topic."

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#9  Edited By mattbbpl
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It's really the fault of those damn unions. If they weren't around the workers could work for Mexico level wages and their jobs would still be around.

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#10 mrbojangles25
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Yeah, who didn't see this coming?

The real question is...how many Trump supporters even have the smarts or memory to recall this being an issue a short few months ago? I can totally see them going "What? What Carrier planet? Indiana?!"

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#11  Edited By lamprey263
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Republicans love to bitch about Democrats "tax and spend", especially when it benefits the middle class and poor and vast majority of Americans. Republicans tax and give it to the rich. And somehow this is the party people in braindead rural US think has their best interests at heart.

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@judaspete said:

That's 632 out of the 800 that were "saved". The jobs are going to Mexico after all. Does this mean Indiana can back out of that $7 million in tax breaks?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/05/24/here-is-the-number-of-jobs-carrier-is-moving-to-mexico-after-trump-said-hed-save-them/?utm_term=.c85d6f37a8e9

You are reading this like someone is reading the bible.

Trump said 1100 jobs would remain , and 800 + administrative/engineering staff will remain according to that article. Which totals 1100.

So not sure where the hell you are getting that 632 jobs out of the trump estimate..

Carrier wanted to close that plant completely and cut 1400 jobs , now 800 is remaining, which is not the 1100. but 800 is better than 0.

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@Jacanuk: Carrier never said they were closing that plant completely. This is the outcome they wanted to do....and are still doing.

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#14 judaspete
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@Jacanuk said:
@judaspete said:

That's 632 out of the 800 that were "saved". The jobs are going to Mexico after all. Does this mean Indiana can back out of that $7 million in tax breaks?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/05/24/here-is-the-number-of-jobs-carrier-is-moving-to-mexico-after-trump-said-hed-save-them/?utm_term=.c85d6f37a8e9

You are reading this like someone is reading the bible.

Trump said 1100 jobs would remain , and 800 + administrative/engineering staff will remain according to that article. Which totals 1100.

So not sure where the hell you are getting that 632 jobs out of the trump estimate..

Carrier wanted to close that plant completely and cut 1400 jobs , now 800 is remaining, which is not the 1100. but 800 is better than 0.

Crap, you're right, I did misread this like a Bible thumper. 632 is the number of factory jobs leaving, 800 will stay. I guess Carrier still gets their $7 million.

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@horgen said:

Well I don't know how much of that tax break they have already received, but they have to pay it back now.

Hahaha, that's not going to happen. They played Trump like a fiddle.

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The other 800 are going to leave eventually, as well. Conservatives don't understand that there is nothing that anyone can do to make these workers less expensive to carrier than $3.90 per day. No red trucker hat rallies will change that. All those jobs are going to Mexico, every single one of them, and I don't blame carrier one bit.

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#17 judaspete
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@tjandmia said:

The other 800 are going to leave eventually, as well. Conservatives don't understand that there is nothing that anyone can do to make these workers less expensive to carrier than $3.90 per day. No red trucker hat rallies will change that. All those jobs are going to Mexico, every single one of them, and I don't blame carrier one bit.

Not all the jobs. Some of them will be automated :)

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#18 Jacanuk
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@judaspete said:
@Jacanuk said:
@judaspete said:

That's 632 out of the 800 that were "saved". The jobs are going to Mexico after all. Does this mean Indiana can back out of that $7 million in tax breaks?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/05/24/here-is-the-number-of-jobs-carrier-is-moving-to-mexico-after-trump-said-hed-save-them/?utm_term=.c85d6f37a8e9

You are reading this like someone is reading the bible.

Trump said 1100 jobs would remain , and 800 + administrative/engineering staff will remain according to that article. Which totals 1100.

So not sure where the hell you are getting that 632 jobs out of the trump estimate..

Carrier wanted to close that plant completely and cut 1400 jobs , now 800 is remaining, which is not the 1100. but 800 is better than 0.

Crap, you're right, I did misread this like a Bible thumper. 632 is the number of factory jobs leaving, 800 will stay. I guess Carrier still gets their $7 million.

Yup they will, but only by being clever tho, they are counting the administrative and engineering jobs in the 1100 jobs that has to stay.

Jobs that was not supposed to be canned at any point.