Bolton exposé makes Trump figure of mockery

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#1  Edited By Zaryia
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How true do you think this book is? Facts mixed with fiction? Pure events that he recounts? Or all BS?

Bolton exposé makes Trump figure of mockery

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/503287-the-memo-bolton-expose-makes-trump-figure-of-mockery

Bolton describes a June 2019 Group of 20 summit at which Trump asked Chinese President Xi Jinping to help him win the 2020 election.

“He stressed the importance of farmers, and increased Chinese purchases of soybeans and wheat in the electoral outcome. I would print Trump’s exact words but the government’s prepublication review process has decided otherwise,” Bolton writes, according to The Washington Post.

It's very damning stuff, if true. And many things that 100% match his past behavior. The White House is pretty scared and really want to shut him up it seems. Or at least that's how they are coming off.

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If everyone who works with him says the same stuff about him, if everybody who watches him says the same stuff about him, when even people who like him say the same things about him (framed as a good thing of course), then it's probably true.

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#3  Edited By mrbojangles25
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I don't think Trump is the most damaging president we have had, but I do think given time we will find out, factually, that he is probably one of the most corrupt.

I still can't believe Bolton--BOLTON!--of all people wrote a book that more or less rats out the president. Thought the dude was a loyalist, but I guess being fired sort of changes things.

@Willy105 said:

If everyone who works with him says the same stuff about him, if everybody who watches him says the same stuff about him, when even people who like him say the same things about him (framed as a good thing of course), then it's probably true.

"If it quacks like a duck...", as they say.

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He's saying that Trump encouraged ethnic work camps and asked Xi for help in the 2020 election. Like clockwork. INB4 "slow news day" or "Bolton is part of the deep state".

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Standing by my prediction we're going to get an Oscar-worthy move out of this in a decade or so.

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#6 Zaryia
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@br0kenrabbit said:

Standing by my prediction we're going to get an Oscar-worthy move out of this in a decade or so.

Don't forget a few shitty attempts as well lol. Like all those Steve Jobs movies until 1 was good.

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#7  Edited By Zaryia
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@HoolaHoopMan said:

INB4 "slow news day" or "Bolton is part of the deep state".

The worst is when his fanboys cry SO HARD about people taking a shit on Trump. But the dude talks smack about people ALL day. That's his thing, he's a crazed asshole attack dog.

The moment any of it is directed back at him, Trump and his fanboys act like whiny little cry babies. Especially here. "SAD!"

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Bolton book bombshells: Trump asked China's Xi for reelection help and told him to keep building concentration camps

No wonder WH wanted to stop this guy.

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@zaryia said:

Bolton book bombshells: Trump asked China's Xi for reelection help and told him to keep building concentration camps

No wonder WH wanted to stop this guy.

That can't be right, I've been told that he's tough on China.

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This makes me think of an article I read yesterday that some Chinese officials hope that trump wins the re-election because of how divisive he is towards other countries. A Joe biden win could mean that countries could be more united against some Chinese issues. Maybe, that is why some officials are rooting for Trump because of a warming relationship between him and Xi?

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Bolton of course the craven loser that he is could've testified during the impeachment trial and sealed the deal, but instead chose to make a quick buck. He's no hero, just another worthless Republican with dollar signs in his eyes.

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@xdude85 said:

Bolton of course the craven loser that he is could've testified during the impeachment trial and sealed the deal, but instead chose to make a quick buck. He's no hero, just another worthless Republican with dollar signs in his eyes.

Agreed. He should have testified.

Although the allegations seem to match with what Trump has done or would have done, I'm not as inclined to agree that it actually happened. The China bit is just so damning though.

Damning information but what's the point now?

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@xdude85: He should have testified, but that would not have changed the outcome.

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Mattis Speechwriter Says He ‘Can Confirm’ Bolton’s Claim Trump Wanted Journalists Imprisoned

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mattis-speechwriter-guy-snodgrass-says-he-can-confirm-boltons-claim-trump-wanted-journalists-imprisoned?via=twitter_page

What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuk! lol

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There's a great tragic comedy waiting to be made by Hollywood. Can't wait until his niece's book gets released in August.

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@mrbojangles25 said:

I don't think Trump is the most damaging president we have had, but I do think given time we will find out, factually, that he is probably one of the most corrupt.

I still can't believe Bolton--BOLTON!--of all people wrote a book that more or less rats out the president. Thought the dude was a loyalist, but I guess being fired sort of changes things.

@Willy105 said:

If everyone who works with him says the same stuff about him, if everybody who watches him says the same stuff about him, when even people who like him say the same things about him (framed as a good thing of course), then it's probably true.

"If it quacks like a duck...", as they say.

a loyalist to who though?

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It can't be true because Bunkerboy is my king and all of you that talk bad about him are paid off by Soros and the Deep state.

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@xdude85 said:

Bolton of course the craven loser that he is could've testified during the impeachment trial and sealed the deal, but instead chose to make a quick buck. He's no hero, just another worthless Republican with dollar signs in his eyes.

Yeah. But the truth needs to be out there regardless.

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Curious if the statements in the book are backed up with enough evidence to start an investigation. Not sure what the rules are on multiple impeachment attempts or whatever, but if even one of the things I read is true, it's pretty damn awful.

Unfortunately so far it just sounds like a bunch of "he said, she said", albeit easy to believe.

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Mattis Speechwriter Says He ‘Can Confirm’ Bolton’s Claim Trump Wanted Journalists Imprisoned

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mattis-speechwriter-guy-snodgrass-says-he-can-confirm-boltons-claim-trump-wanted-journalists-imprisoned?via=twitter_page

What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuk! lol

Dude is a buffoon with delusions of dictatorship.

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@zaryia said:

Mattis Speechwriter Says He ‘Can Confirm’ Bolton’s Claim Trump Wanted Journalists Imprisoned

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mattis-speechwriter-guy-snodgrass-says-he-can-confirm-boltons-claim-trump-wanted-journalists-imprisoned?via=twitter_page

What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuk! lol

SLOW

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EH?

Someone probably. That's bad.... like.... actually it doesn't matter. Cultists will be cultists no matter what.

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@HoolaHoopMan said:

He's saying that Trump encouraged ethnic work camps and asked Xi for help in the 2020 election. Like clockwork. INB4 "slow news day" or "Bolton is part of the deep state".

Why I'll never take Trump and the GOP's role against China seriously. He's a damn hypocrite that basically made the entire US as chaotic as Hong Kong right now. Can't wait for Rubio's damage control...

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@drunk_pi said:
@zaryia said:

Mattis Speechwriter Says He ‘Can Confirm’ Bolton’s Claim Trump Wanted Journalists Imprisoned

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mattis-speechwriter-guy-snodgrass-says-he-can-confirm-boltons-claim-trump-wanted-journalists-imprisoned?via=twitter_page

What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuk! lol

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Someone probably. That's bad.... like.... actually it doesn't matter. Cultists will be cultists no matter what.

Orange man bad, TDS

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#23  Edited By deactivated-6068afec1b77d
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Since Trump approved of concentration camps in China imagine of what could he done if he had the same power level of Xi in the government. Some people might be thinking of what he and ICE are doing in the detention centers but I'm thinking much worse.

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#24  Edited By horgen  Moderator
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He hasn't denied knowing who Bolton was yet?

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@horgen said:

He hasn't denied knowing who Bolton was yet?

Bolton is a liar, but also someone who worked for Trump, who only hires the best people. Makes total sense.

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Say It Under Oath, Asshole

@horgen said:

He hasn't denied knowing who Bolton was yet?

The current narrative is that it's all made up and Bolton told fake stories. Which is exactly why it was also all classified information and couldn't be shown to the public. Because it wasn't real.

Another bout of logical brilliance from the leader of the free world.

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#27  Edited By horgen  Moderator
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@HoolaHoopMan said:
@horgen said:

He hasn't denied knowing who Bolton was yet?

Bolton is a liar, but also someone who worked for Trump, who only hires the best people. Makes total sense.

I thought Bolton was some low level security guy.

@Vaasman said:

Say It Under Oath, Asshole

@horgen said:

He hasn't denied knowing who Bolton was yet?

The current narrative is that it's all made up and Bolton told fake stories. Which is exactly why it was also all classified information and couldn't be shown to the public. Because it wasn't real.

Another bout of logical brilliance from the leader of the free world.

Ah. Of course. It's all made up and classified at the same time.

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it's an easy argument to make for the administration to just say it's all lies and he's just trying to sell books.
without testimony under oath, that's enough for the trumpkins to never give it a second thought.

forget that trump simultaneously claims it's a lie and it's classified information and releasing it is a crime, we'll just ignore the mental gymnastics required to make sense of that one....

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The more I read about it, the more it seems like it is going to embarrass the hell out of Trump.

Trump and Co. will of course try to diminish the severity of it, call it lies, declare Bolton a bitter ex-employee, and so on.

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#32 Zaryia
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@diefthyntis said:

We really should believe a sociopath lying war criminal.

I mean the alternative is believing Trump, so....

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#33 comp_atkins
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@zaryia said:
@diefthyntis said:

We really should believe a sociopath lying war criminal.

I mean the alternative is believing Trump, so....

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@comp_atkins said:
@zaryia said:
@diefthyntis said:

We really should believe a sociopath lying war criminal.

I mean the alternative is believing Trump, so....

I'm not sure the 'Bolton is a liar' defense makes Trump look good considering he employed him and always claims to bring in the best. But after all, this is the 20th person to quit and call Trump a moron and crook.

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Trump makes Trump a figure of mockery so Bolton doesn't add anything.

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#36 comp_atkins
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@diefthyntis said:

We really should believe a sociopath lying war criminal.

or we could believe bolton

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As an outsider I can't help but just sit back and chuckle at the shambles that is the USA. Possibly the most inept administration to exist.

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@netracing said:

As an outsider I can't help but just sit back and chuckle at the shambles that is the USA. Possibly the most inept administration to exist.

Not possibly. Is. Also most corrupt.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@netracing said:

As an outsider I can't help but just sit back and chuckle at the shambles that is the USA. Possibly the most inept administration to exist.

Not possibly. Is. Also most corrupt.

And destructive. It's surreal how bad he is.