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I'm sure everybody has looked back at one of their old consoles and asked themselves how they thought those grpahics were amazing. I remember playing Zelda: OoT when I was younger and thinking it was the best looking game ever to be made.

But honestly with these next gen platforms, can it get any better? How can they vastly improve beyond what we have now? Will we ever look back at games like MGS4, Uncharted, or God of War 3 and think to ourselves that those were bad graphics. Some of you may say "Well that's what we thought back then with our ps2". Yes, this is true, but I can't even imagine how visuals would improve from what they are today. I think we are almost at the pinnacle of graphics....and they may stay like this for years to come.

What do you think? Can graphics improve to a level unimaginable?

I DOUBT IT.

Like I've said before, we're getting pretty damn near close to photorealism, which is great, but it's soooooooooooo borrrrrring.

We need more cel-shaded games.

More fun; flashy. Like Okami.

I have a feeling that someone is going to do soemthing this gen that will completely revolutionize the industry, and I have a feeling the PS3 will play a big role.

Soon there will be a limit to graphics. The limit might be photorealism or up to a really good point, we won't know until a ultimate engine is made.

And about thinking that old games had good graphics back then, I thought the same. I thought tetris had the best graphics and now I laugh at myself about it :)

I DOUBT IT.

Like I've said before, we're getting pretty damn near close to photorealism, which is great, but it's soooooooooooo borrrrrring.

We need more cel-shaded games.

More fun; flashy. Like Okami.

I have a feeling that someone is going to do soemthing this gen that will completely revolutionize the industry, and I have a feeling the PS3 will play a big role.

[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

I DOUBT IT.

Like I've said before, we're getting pretty damn near close to photorealism, which is great, but it's soooooooooooo borrrrrring.

We need more cel-shaded games.

More fun; flashy. Like Okami.

I have a feeling that someone is going to do soemthing this gen that will completely revolutionize the industry, and I have a feeling the PS3 will play a big role.

gera34

How? I find cel-shaded games to be beautiful.

It can get better.

It can be Mortal Kombat better. It had REAL PEOPLE. Thats how awesome it was. But games like that are criticized because the real people thing sucks to some. We will always want are games to not be fully realistic but just on the brink

ughh, i hate cel-shaded games with a passion

and no i dont think console graphics has reached its limit...when games look like Crysis maybe then

ughh, i hate cel-shaded games with a passion

and no i dont think console graphics has reached its limit...when games look like Crysis maybe then

LP4EVA2005

Graphics will never reach their limit. I know this sounds crazy, but I remember asking myself this same question when Tony Hawk 3 came out. They looked so real at the time, and I didn't think they could get any better. But, what do you know? New games came out and (obviously) surpassed the graphics for that time.

As for me saying "How did I think those were good graphics?" No, I do not think this, I know why I thought they were great at the time, and graphics don't get worse I think. They get surpassed with age, but I can clearly see why MGS looked so good, or why the lighting in splinter cell made my jaw drop.

Games will keep looking better and better. We will get to photo-realism, and virtual reality, yea, but games will continue past that. "Well how can something look better than real?" It will probably have to do with things becoming more artistic than just realistic. Cel-shading? Well, not exactly, but that is kind of what I mean. Certain games will either be trying to look realistic, or trying to be stylistic. Last gen you play say, MGS3 and think, Damn this looks real, and then you go and play Okami, and think, Wow this is beautiful; but which one has better graphics? It will continue like this but be exaggerated immensely in both directions; artistic or realistic.

[QUOTE="LP4EVA2005"]

ughh, i hate cel-shaded games with a passion

and no i dont think console graphics has reached its limit...when games look like Crysis maybe then

avataraang1

You can't exactly think that though. Because the graphics were good for it's time. Maybe if time froze and it's been 1997 for 11 years, then I guess you could think that. That's like saying "I can't believe people used paper and the postal service for mail" before 1996.

Ofcoarse it's going to change. 100 years from now, we'll probably have actual interactive programs in a room like how they have it on Star Trek.

awesome thread TC.

yah i believe graphics will get better, and not only graphics though, but everything! games woud not be 3D anymore, it would be a whole new dimention, hard core games would actually have to by gaming stations to play, and TVs would not be enough, but dome screens would have to be used, or even virtual reality head sets. everything would be at an insane level. i think gaming still has a long way to go befor it hits the pinnacle. in my Design Technology class, we learn about something called the design cycle. which basically means what we have right now is technology that we actually had about 3 years ago. so basically we are playing ps3 right now, when in fact the ps4 level of everything is already possible or even in production.

so yes, i believe tht gaming will only get alot better

haha i was looking back at my gaming days when i used to play duck hunt! haha! and i rmbr braggin to my friends how briliant the graphics were! or when i used to play the original pokemon blue! haha! and i thought the graphics were amazing :D

I have a feeling one day it would be virtual reality, like they put you in a game like of CoD, and you actually hold the gun and shoot them. I think you would put a helmet on and go inside a pod an you play the game inside there, to simulate running you run in place I guess. I just hope they actually don't make you feel pain. Getting shot wouldn't be fun. I would laugh my a** off if they made it so if you die in the game you die in real life. Dang, can't wait until that gaming era. idk761

You could run into some serious ethical issues with virtual reality war games.

are graphics at their pinnacle??

not even close..

playing nintendo back in the day,
i would have never even imagined a game such as MGS4
just mind blowing how quickly technology progresses

i mean, i believe that someday games will let us experience things that we cant even experience in reality...

[QUOTE="idk761"]I have a feeling one day it would be virtual reality, like they put you in a game like of CoD, and you actually hold the gun and shoot them. I think you would put a helmet on and go inside a pod an you play the game inside there, to simulate running you run in place I guess. I just hope they actually don't make you feel pain. Getting shot wouldn't be fun. I would laugh my a** off if they made it so if you die in the game you die in real life. Dang, can't wait until that gaming era. Sheps21

You could run into some serious ethical issues with virtual reality war games.

Technically, the war games today are just like training simulators. It's not all that different from what the military uses.

IMO a good looking game will forever look good.skp_16

[QUOTE="skp_16"]IMO a good looking game will forever look good.I_pWnzz_YoU

There are graphics and then theres art.

[QUOTE="gera34"][QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

I DOUBT IT.

Like I've said before, we're getting pretty damn near close to photorealism, which is great, but it's soooooooooooo borrrrrring.

We need more cel-shaded games.

More fun; flashy. Like Okami.

I have a feeling that someone is going to do soemthing this gen that will completely revolutionize the industry, and I have a feeling the PS3 will play a big role.

craigalan23

How? I find cel-shaded games to be beautiful.

I've been having the same thoughts. I mean, imagine playing a game 10 years from now and looking back at games like MGS4 or GoW2 and saying that the graphics are bad.I_pWnzz_YoU

*gasps* *gapes*

haha dude imgine tht! insane!

[QUOTE="Sheps21"]

[QUOTE="idk761"]I have a feeling one day it would be virtual reality, like they put you in a game like of CoD, and you actually hold the gun and shoot them. I think you would put a helmet on and go inside a pod an you play the game inside there, to simulate running you run in place I guess. I just hope they actually don't make you feel pain. Getting shot wouldn't be fun. I would laugh my a** off if they made it so if you die in the game you die in real life. Dang, can't wait until that gaming era. Denji

You could run into some serious ethical issues with virtual reality war games.

Technically, the war games today are just like training simulators. It's not all that different from what the military uses.

I just have to throw this out there. Virtual reality games in the way you have described them in this original post is impossible. It causes motion sickness. Remember virtualboy?

The reason people get car sick is they are unable to relate the motion of the outside world to their own body which is stationary in a car, this causes the brain to think there is something wrong and it induces vomiting.

It is the same thing, essentially, with virtual reality. You have proprioceptors and mechanoreceptors in your muscles that give your brain information about strain on the area and the limbs position in space. If this does not match the visual representation that your brain is receiving you get motion sickness.

I know this was just a thought you wanted to throw out there for us to read but I'm just a day away from a 100% final in a neural adaptation course so I felt like throwing this information back :)

Anyway I am sure that graphics at some point will hit a ceiling just like processing power of computers is currently hitting one of its own. But eventually someone will find a way around it and then we will eventually look back at this generation with laughter at the pitiful graphics.

[QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"][QUOTE="skp_16"]IMO a good looking game will forever look good.Zidaneski

There are graphics and then theres art.

[QUOTE="Zidaneski"]

[QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"] Does that make sense?I_pWnzz_YoU

There are graphics and then theres art.

If a 5 year-old can make a good-looking drawing of their house on a sunny day and later grows up and starts painting masterpieces do we say that the crayola drawing was a piece of crap? Yeah games do get better but do we say Pac-man looks like a piece of crap?

If you think about it were not even close, yes from a distance games like metal gear look great, but if you get close up you can see where it needs a lot of improvement. There are details all over the games that needs imrpovement on graphicsluludooobee111

I agree. When you really look closely at the graphics it is not hard to find things that could be improved. I'm still looking forward to games in native 1080p with razor sharp graphics.

I think there could be a problem in the future though. The more advanced games get the more money and time they take to produce. I'm sure cost already limits the potential of some of the best games we already enjoy.

I agree. When you really look closely at the graphics it is not hard to find things that could be improved. I'm still looking forward to games in native 1080p with razor sharp graphics.

junglist101

Why 1080p, if there is UHD on the way? ^^ Just think about 4320p, we will laugh at all those blurry PS3 games xD Beside the higher resolution, I hope they'll improve to more advanced technologies like a pair of glases with two different pictures to simulate a real 3D look. Future will always bring more and better things, belive me

[QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"][QUOTE="Zidaneski"]

There are graphics and then theres art.

Zidaneski

If a 5 year-old can make a good-looking drawing of their house on a sunny day and later grows up and starts painting masterpieces do we say that the crayola drawing was a piece of crap? Yeah games do get better but do we say Pac-man looks like a piece of crap?

[QUOTE="Denji"][QUOTE="Sheps21"]

You could run into some serious ethical issues with virtual reality war games.

Dankodefense

Technically, the war games today are just like training simulators. It's not all that different from what the military uses.

I just have to throw this out there. Virtual reality games in the way you have described them in this original post is impossible. It causes motion sickness. Remember virtualboy?

The reason people get car sick is they are unable to relate the motion of the outside world to their own body which is stationary in a car, this causes the brain to think there is something wrong and it induces vomiting.

It is the same thing, essentially, with virtual reality. You have proprioceptors and mechanoreceptors in your muscles that give your brain information about strain on the area and the limbs position in space. If this does not match the visual representation that your brain is receiving you get motion sickness.

I know this was just a thought you wanted to throw out there for us to read but I'm just a day away from a 100% final in a neural adaptation course so I felt like throwing this information back :)

Anyway I am sure that graphics at some point will hit a ceiling just like processing power of computers is currently hitting one of its own. But eventually someone will find a way around it and then we will eventually look back at this generation with laughter at the pitiful graphics.

I hate to rain on your "parade of knowledge," but virtual reality is not possible NOW. That is what this entire post is about; that is what technology is, making what man naturally percieves as impossible, possible. 1900, ask the general public if man will fly- "No, that is impossible" would be your common response. Four years later, the Wright brothers did fly, and then look even further into the future to 1969 and we fly to the Moon. Impossible? That is essentially just a word bound by time.

I understand what you are trying to get at, with virtual reality being physically impossible for man, but I can assure you, there will be ways around it. Look at the wii, the motion sensing on that is already a form of virtual reality. Maybe running in place could be supported by a large ball that you run inside so that your brain understands that you are actually moving where your senses tell it, who knows? Either way, innovation will always happen.

Graphics will always improve, and gaming, that is, electronic entertainment, will always be changing and developing.

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=47724

its only 3 years old.. but its interesting... going to scour the internet for older forums where people are talkinga bout the same kinds of questions.. just to see the difference between then and now.