Why won't the PS3 run in 1080p?

Well before anyone even comments on the difference of 720p, 720i, etc you should educate yourself with this simple little video otherwise peace out of the conversation. And I can say with 100% that FFXIII is full 1080p because that is the signal that it receives from the Playstation 3. And as far as I know you can't force a PS3 game to upscale to 1080p. Only PS and PS2 games. Also, your tv always outputs at 1080p even though it may say the signal it receives from the PS3 is 720p. So in a sense it is your tv that does all the upscaling unless you are playing PS/PS2/DVDs. So everyone here might want to educate themselves and do research instead of speaking out of their asses. Also there's a big advantage to choosing 720p over 1080i like someone pointed out. Enjoy your education for the day. Oh that video is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-JXfyvlPh0 Also upscaling wasn't available until patch 1.80 Taken from Sony Playstation Blog: With 1.80, you can now upscale PlayStation and PlayStation 2 games and DVD movies, up to 1080p if your TV supports it.QuintessenceON

Well, when I say it isn't upscaled I meant that all the PS3 does is stretch the image to match 1080p if you uncheck the options for output. Hardly making it into 1080p. Probably would notice a decrease in performance depending on fast action sequences or cutscenes in a lot of games. As for Final Fantasy XIII, it's all 1080p. The signal from the PS3 hasn't switched to 720p at all since playing it and I'm about 50 hours in at the end of the game. It's too bad I didn't grind my ass off like I should of. Takes forever to kill stuff. But that video I linked explains a lot of technical detail. Pretty much a must watch if you're in the retail business and work at an electronics store or a department within a store.QuintessenceON

Hmm, where does the guy live that gets his abc or nbc in 1080i? Last I checked only cbs outputs at 1080i, and all the rest do 720p.

p.S. Never mind, looks as though some local stations do different resolutions, but national channels are as I listed.

[QUOTE="MethodManFTW"]i get what shawty is saying i guess. but its the same here (cbs in 720 and all others in 1080i) and they exactly the same. its sad but i just dont believe you.. take some screen shots or something :Pshawty1984

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[QUOTE="MethodManFTW"]i get what shawty is saying i guess. but its the same here (cbs in 720 and all others in 1080i) and they exactly the same. its sad but i just dont believe you.. take some screen shots or something :PMethodManFTW

i said this last page :twisted: 40" lcd 1080pMethodManFTW

o wow i didnt know bravia's were crap :roll:

[QUOTE="MethodManFTW"]i said this last page :twisted: 40" lcd 1080pshawty1984

o wow i didnt know bravia's were crap :roll:

MethodManFTW

it's a good hdtv, but thanks for your worries. and yeah ive agreed that 1080i is better than 720p as far as pixel counting goes, but it is a very minimal difference when you are just watching tv.. but you said sit closer, and closer than 6 ft is pretty damn close, so maybe you are like a couple feet away from your tv. =/

via the editor of HDTuner:

To answer the question, it's important to understand the difference between 720p vs 1080i. A 720p signal is made up of 720 horizontal lines. Each frame is displayed in its entirety on-screen for 1/30th of a second. This is know as progressive scan (hence the 'p')The quality is like watching 30 photographic images a second on TV. A 1080i signal comprises 1080 horizontal lines but all the lines are not displayed on-screen simultaneously. Instead, they are interlaced (hence the 'i'), ie every other lines is displayed for 1/60th of a second and then the alternate lines are displayed for 1/60th of a second. So, the frame rate is still 30 frames per second, but each frame is split into two fields, which your brain then puts together subconsciously.

Most of the time interlacing works fine, but for fast moving images, such as sports like baseball and hockey it can cause problems which manifest themselves as a 'stepping' effect on-screen. Progressive scan signals don't have this problem and so are better suited to sports.

ESPN puts it like this: 'Progressive scan technology produces better images for the fast moving orientation of sports television. Simply put, with 104 mph fastballs in baseball and 120 mph shots on goal in hockey, the line-by-line basis of progressive scan technology better captures the inherent fast action of sports. For ESPN, progressive scan technology makes perfect sense.'

Bottom line? For us, as consumers 720p vs 1080i is not a debate worth worrying about, so you can relax and focus on all the other criteria on your list when you buy your next HDTV.

it's a good hdtv, but thanks for your worries. and yeah ive agreed that 1080i is better than 720p as far as pixel counting goes, but it is a very minimal difference when you are just watching tv.. but you said sit closer, and closer than 6 ft is pretty damn close, so maybe you are like a couple feet away from your tv. =/MethodManFTW

This argument comes up every couple of months lol. The truth is that it's all revolving around what the source is. MOST games are native 720p. The PS3 is going to pick the NATIVE resolution no matter what game it is! That's it. Unless you force your PS3 to 1080p only which STILL DOES NOT MEAN YOU'RE GETTING TRUE 1080P. As a matter of fact you are DEGRADING the image quality by doing this. Try to play Uncharted 2 in forced 1080p. You LOSE your 2x AA. Frame rates are not the same either. There are also various other artifacts in the picture. Switch back to 720p and you will notice the difference IMMEDIATELY. Especially on cut scenes. If the game is 1080P then it's 1080P. Your TV is very well upscaling it on it's own anyways even if you press info and it says 1920 X 720. Progressive IS better than interlaced period. I'd rather play in 720p than 1080i because it refreshes the screen faster and games have fast moving images. Also... this all matters if your TV is past 40" and up.

Also... this all matters if your TV is past 40" and up.

kenken2g

Pretty much no games run in 1080p on the ps3... Wipeout HD, Flower (I think), FFXIII...MethodManFTW

Most TV's run at progressive not interlaced. If your TV is 1080p, and the game runs at 1080i and 720p ....the TV will run it at 720p. Nonstop-Madness

yeah its the games not the ps3. you just have to force the resolution. just uncheck everything but the highest resolution supported by the game your about to play. i have a couple of games that do not run in their highest resolution unless forced. gow3, borderlands, and dead space are just some of the games i have that need to be forced into their best resolution. it sucks but get use to constantly changing your display settings.

yeah its the games not the ps3. you just have to force the resolution. just uncheck everything but the highest resolution supported by the game your about to play. i have a couple of games that do not run in their highest resolution unless forced. gow3, borderlands, and dead space are just some of the games i have that need to be forced into their best resolution. it sucks but get use to constantly changing your display settings.

LURCH87

Oh. REALLY? Well as much as that sucks I guess at least I can take solace in the fact that my system isn't acting up. But how weird? Why would that be? Especially when it says it runs in 1080?

And thanks for your help too guys.

Darth-Samus

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]Most TV's run at progressive not interlaced. If your TV is 1080p, and the game runs at 1080i and 720p ....the TV will run it at 720p. shawty1984

On projection tv's and well basically all older types of tv an interlaced signal CAN run at 60 frames per second but they're only half frames as the first frame will be all the even horizontal lines and the second frame will be all the odd horizontal lines. and a progressive signal would be 60 full frames per second. Hope this clears all that up for you.

Also, the same game can support 1080i and 720p. They're NOT the same thing....It can't play both at the same time but it can support each played at different times....

[QUOTE="WR_Platinum"]

Remember that most game play at 720p.

1080i is inferior to 720p anyway so there is no problem there.

shawty1984

Educate yourself with this link.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-JXfyvlPh0

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]Most TV's run at progressive not interlaced. If your TV is 1080p, and the game runs at 1080i and 720p ....the TV will run it at 720p. xX-Incubus-Xx

On projection tv's and well basically all older types of tv an interlaced signal CAN run at 60 frames per second but they're only half frames as the first frame will be all the even horizontal lines and the second frame will be all the odd horizontal lines. and a progressive signal would be 60 full frames per second. Hope this clears all that up for you.

Also, the same game can support 1080i and 720p. They're NOT the same thing....It can't play both at the same time but it can support each played at different times....

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="WR_Platinum"]

Remember that most game play at 720p.

1080i is inferior to 720p anyway so there is no problem there.

WR_Platinum

Educate yourself with this link.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-JXfyvlPh0

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="WR_Platinum"]

Remember that most game play at 720p.

1080i is inferior to 720p anyway so there is no problem there.

WR_Platinum

Educate yourself with this link.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-JXfyvlPh0

That video pretty well proves 720p is better for gaming. More pixels means nothing when the action gets blurry.

Pretty much no games run in 1080p on the ps3... Wipeout HD, Flower (I think), FFXIII...MethodManFTW

It's not your PS3 or the TV. Check the back of the game case, not all games run in 1080p. [QUOTE="MethodManFTW"]Pretty much no games run in 1080p on the ps3... Wipeout HD, Flower (I think), FFXIII...NukePistols

[QUOTE="LURCH87"]

yeah its the games not the ps3. you just have to force the resolution. just uncheck everything but the highest resolution supported by the game your about to play. i have a couple of games that do not run in their highest resolution unless forced. gow3, borderlands, and dead space are just some of the games i have that need to be forced into their best resolution. it sucks but get use to constantly changing your display settings.

shawty1984

gow3 looks better in 1080i than 720p and borderlands is clearer in 1080p than its default 720p. upscale or not i will continue to force the highest resolution supported by the game because i notice the difference.

PLEASE help me!

I have a 1080p HD Tv and am using the Sony HDMI cable. I set the PS3 to maximize at 1080p. Here's the weird part:

The PS3 menu and userbar screen is in 1080p. But when I play a game it automatically goes to 720p! I've tested it time and again and am making sure to put in games that list 1080p on the back of the case. Even God of War III lists 1080i and it still goes to 720p. WHAT DO I DO!

Any help would be mega appreciated and thanks for your time :)

Darth-Samus