Why do the PS2 games look and play worse on the PS3?

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#1 hardworker321
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Why is it that a game like Mercenaries for the PS2 looks worse on a PS3 and a HDTV, and looks and plays better on a PS2 and SDTV?
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#2 chacas
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because most of ps2 games werent made for HD, also remember that the ps3 is emulating ps2 so bugs, glitches, grapics downscales or any other problems might happen, but wait for more updates to see if these problems get fixed
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#3 pimperjones
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Because when you stretch out 480by720 on a 1080by1920 display without adding AA or upscaling. It looks like crap. Add the SD overscanning issue that all PS2 games have you get crap in a black frame. Sony needs software AA and upscaling bad, I can't even play my PS2 collection without cringing. The crappy graphics aside I gotta play games with borders, I can't stand borders.
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#4 junk56
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its like playing jumping from black and white tv's to colour tv's. Why does the pong look like crap on SDTV opposed to black and white tvs... oh wait... it's the same thing ;;
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#5 UTXII
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because most of ps2 games werent made for HD, also remember that the ps3 is emulating ps2 so bugs, glitches, grapics downscales or any other problems might happen, but wait for more updates to see if these problems get fixedchacas
Better soon than later, for updates. 1.70 didn't make any promises on the upscale issue I would like to see them fix. Again, the sooner they fix all this the better. Then the media can finally shup up, but, more importantly, the 360 fanboys insulting the PS3 because these aren't included in the final product, as of yet at least. Upscale is essesial.
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#6 pimperjones
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The crappy graphics aside, it's those god forsaken black bars on the sides of the game that really kill me. You can't even get rid of them because the black borders are actually considered part of the image as a means to compensate for SD TV's over scanning issue. Only an Software emulation system can fix the black borders and poor graphics.
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#7 clsnbrdr616
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The crappy graphics aside, it's those god forsaken black bars on the sides of the game that really kill me. You can't even get rid of them because the black borders are actually considered part of the image as a means to compensate for SD TV's over scanning issue. Only an Software emulation system can fix the black borders and poor graphics.pimperjones

 I hear you on that.  Every since I got my HDTV a year ago, I can't play my Final Fantasy games anymore cuz of those damn black bars.  FF12 was the only one that I could, but that's because my TV can stretch widescreen displays like FF12.  But 4:3 video gets stretched horizontally on my TV if I use the same option and that looks worse than the black bars.  I don't want to see a fat Yuna and Tidus on my screen. :P

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#8 chacas
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when i just bought the PS3 i still had a sdtv and it looked well, then when i bought the HDTV and plugged the PS3 with the normal cables ps2 games still looked good so try using them when youplay ps2 games or change the resolution in the ps3 screen options if ur too lazy to unplug the HDMI cables.
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[QUOTE="pimperjones"]The crappy graphics aside, it's those god forsaken black bars on the sides of the game that really kill me. You can't even get rid of them because the black borders are actually considered part of the image as a means to compensate for SD TV's over scanning issue. Only an Software emulation system can fix the black borders and poor graphics.clsnbrdr616

I hear you on that. Every since I got my HDTV a year ago, I can't play my Final Fantasy games anymore cuz of those damn black bars. FF12 was the only one that I could, but that's because my TV can stretch widescreen displays like FF12. But 4:3 video gets stretched horizontally on my TV if I use the same option and that looks worse than the black bars. I don't want to see a fat Yuna and Tidus on my screen. :P

 

btw the black bars can go away buddy

try changing the screen mode, it should be a button or in the options

 

Most LCD tv screens  have different modes for different aspect ratios    usually FULL,  CINEMA,  (aka WIDESCREEN) ZOOM etc,

That will get rid of the bars and unstretch video

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#10 ShinAkuma777
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dunno some do some dont ps1 games emulate perfectly though
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#11 slim-pagey
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ps1 games are rubbish why would u play them
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#12 tcf457073
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progressive scan will fix this

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#13 RFmyrddin
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How about ps1 games?

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#14 Dogswithguns
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PS2 games looks good to me playing on PS3 on my SDTV with component cable, pics still clear.... but if on HDtv a little different but I think it still good or even better, IMO
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#15 Blabadon
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:shock: You mean Shadow of The Colossus looks even better than on my projector? I can't wait til the Collection.
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#16 PSP107
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You ppl need to use the PS3 upscaling feature. Not only PS1/PS2 games look good, but DVD movies look great aswell. I'll also argue that playing N64 on HDTV is not that bad. You ppl really are odd when say u these games are not playable on an HDTV.
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#17 Androvinus
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Actually they look a lot better. i dont know what you are talking about/
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#18 Dogswithguns
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You ppl need to use the PS3 upscaling feature. Not only PS1/PS2 games look good, but DVD movies look great aswell. I'll also argue that playing N64 on HDTV is not that bad. You ppl really are odd when say u these games are not playable on an HDTV.PSP107
Yeah. gotta set the Upscaling and the Full screen too.
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Lol, this may be why i played San Andreas on my PS3 and it was judt un-playable, i thought it was kuz it was a PS2 game, but maybe kuz i tried it on my PS3 on 42" TV. Iunno, i just couldn't aim or nuthin.

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#20 spookykid143
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ps1 games are rubbish why would u play themslim-pagey
What do you mean rubbish? the PSX is better then the PS3 game wise.

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#21 VanDammFan
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You ppl need to use the PS3 upscaling feature. Not only PS1/PS2 games look good, but DVD movies look great aswell. I'll also argue that playing N64 on HDTV is not that bad. You ppl really are odd when say u these games are not playable on an HDTV.PSP107

I tend to agree 100000000000000000000000000000% with this guy...I still play Atari 2600 games from time to time so if people think PS2 games are horrible looking I would love to see your face when playing Combat..lol...graphics are NOT everything..

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#22 deactivated-64ba3ebd35404
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This thread is four years old...
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#23 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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Even with upscaling, PS2/PS1 games just don't look that great. PS2 games are ok but still kinda pixelated in some places and PS1 games just look laughably bad.

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#24 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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progressive scan will fix this

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Oh and grats on reviving a 4 year old thread.
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#25 PSP107
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Lol, this may be why i played San Andreas on my PS3 and it was judt un-playable, i thought it was kuz it was a PS2 game, but maybe kuz i tried it on my PS3 on 42" TV. Iunno, i just couldn't aim or nuthin.

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looks great to me. im actually going to play old games on PS2 and PS3 this weekend for a test.